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Don't let me interrupt .

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Ok . Before we move to

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question just a couple of brief opening

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comments , uh the secretary and other

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senior officials in the department and

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across the government were engaged

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through the weekend and monitoring and

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responding to uh unfolding events in

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the Middle East . The secretary spoke

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yesterday to the French Foreign

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Minister about ongoing diplomatic

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efforts to de escalate tensions in the

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region . He is um uh speaking to other

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counterparts uh uh today , both in

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person on the sidelines of the DE ISIS

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ministerial that's happening uh in our

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building as well as uh by phone . Uh

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And we'll have readouts of those

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conversations as the day goes on . I

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want to make a few points clear .

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Number one , we support Israel's right

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to defend itself against terrorism that

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includes by bringing brutal terrorists

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such as Hassan Nasrallah to justice .

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At the same time , we ultimately want

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to see a diplomatic resolution to

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conflict in the Middle East that

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provides long term security to for the

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people of Israel , the people of

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Lebanon and the Palestinian people as

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well as the broader region . And we

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will continue to work to advance

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efforts along those fronts that met .

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Right . Uh , ok . Well , just , uh ,

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first do you , can you give us an idea

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of who he plans to talk to ? Uh , he

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was on the phone when I walked down

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here with the , um , UK Foreign

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Minister , he was on the phone with the

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UK Foreign Minister . We'll have a read

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out of that later today as well as

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others . I don't have a , a full list

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but he's doing some , some of our

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conversations on the margins of the

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ministerial today and then others will

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be phone calls . Those go beyond the

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what was on the schedule , which was

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like Kuwait and the ones that are on

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the public schedule and I wouldn't

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foreclose others that are just

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opportunistic as he sees people here in

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the building . Ok . Is he going to be

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speaking with any Israeli officials ?

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He has been speaking with Israeli

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officials dating back to last week ,

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met with me and , and , and , and , and

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we'll continue to some of those

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conversations we read out some , we do

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not . So he has had , is it accurate to

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say that he has had conversations today ?

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I don't know that he has had any yet

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today , but he will continue to engage

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and then , and then just so what is

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your understanding of what Israel is

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planning to do or , or not to do ?

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So ? I will let I'm going to assume you ,

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I'm gonna assume you're referring to

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the report , what Israel is going to do .

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I'm asking you what they have told you

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they are going to do or not . So , I

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think you're , I shouldn't presume I

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answer the question , but I think , I

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think that's , that's ok . I know there

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was an important Buffalo Bills game

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last night that I assume you were , you

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know what I said that we were not , I A

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for bringing it up , fair , fair , fair ,

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fair point . So look , I'll let Israel

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speak to uh its own military operations .

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We have been uh engaged in

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conversations with them about , about

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those operations , but the timing

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purpose , uh tempo of those I'll let

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them speak to . So they haven't told

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you anything about what's going on .

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They have been uh uh we have been in

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conversations , they have been

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informing us about a number of

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operations . I know I've seen reports

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about um uh ground operations . We've

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had some conversations with them about

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that . They have uh uh at this time

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told us that those are limited

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operations focused on Hezbollah

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infrastructure near the border , but

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we're in continuous conversations with

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them about it . Matt on so on those

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conversations . And you said they told

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us um those are limited operations um

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has , has , does the US have some sort

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of a red line or an ideal uh

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description of success for Israel's

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operations that it's sort of talking

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with Israel , like this comes across as

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like pretty open ended . I'm trying to

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understand whether us is trying to uh

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limit it to , I mean , how will you

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know that these are limited incursions ,

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how , how will you ensure it doesn't

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sort of escalate further ? So I'm gonna

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keep our conversations with the

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government of Israel private . Uh These

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are conversations that we have uh that

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we have had with them going back months

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where we have been clear about what we

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believe is the , the best way to uh

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ensure that Israeli citizens can return

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to their homes and that the citizens of

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Lebanon can return to their homes . Um

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But as I said , at the top , there are

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a few things that are true here .

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Number one , Israel has a right to

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defend itself against Hezbollah . If

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you look at how this conflict across

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Israel's northern border started , it

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was Hezbollah that started launching

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attacks on Israel on October 8th and

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those attacks continued uh and have

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continued and are continued . If you

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look at what the acting leader of

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Hezbollah said just today , it's that

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their attacks on Israel will continue .

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So Israel has a right to defend itself

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against those attacks . So that

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includes in targeting terrorist

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infrastructure inside Lebanon . At the

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same time , we want to ultimately see a

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diplomatic resolution to this conflict ,

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one that allows citizens on both sides

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of the border to return to their homes .

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So it's interesting that now you're

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saying we want to ultimately see a

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diplomatic resolution to this as

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opposed to last week when States and

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France called for a ceasefire in

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Lebanon . So the United States at this

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point is no longer calling for a

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ceasefire in Lebanon . Not at all . You

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heard the president say today that we

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continue to support a cease fire . We

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do , of course , continue to support ,

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we of course continue to support a

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cease fire . But I I think sometimes

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people either misinterpret or have

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their own version of what a cease fire

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is , a cease fire is not one side in a

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conflict , unilaterally putting down

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its arms and stopping the conflict . It

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is an agreement for both sides to stop

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the conflict . And in this case , what

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we have proposed a 21 day cease fire

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where both sides would stop attacking

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the other and we would reach a

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diplomatic resolution and we are going

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to continue to engage with our Israeli

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counterparts , with Lebanese

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counterparts and with other countries

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around the world um to reach that

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objective . But at the same time ,

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there are a couple of other things that

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are true as well , which is that number

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one military pressure can at times

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enable diplomacy . Of course , military

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pressure can also lead to

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miscalculation , it can lead to

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unintended consequences . And we're in

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conversation with Israel about all

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these factors now . So is that 21 day

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ceasefire proposal still on the table

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with the Israelis ? Of course , it is

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you heard the president speak to today ,

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but that said a cease fire is not a

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call for one side unilaterally in a

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conflict to stop uh defending itself .

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It is a conflict . It is a call for a

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diplomatic resolution that both sides

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would agree to . And so yes , Israel

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continues to gauge in this conflict .

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But as I said , a minute ago , when you

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heard the new acting leader of

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Hezbollah come out today , what he said

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is they are going to continue their

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attacks on Israel . So that's why I go

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back to the history of this , that this

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conflict started because it was

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Hezbollah on the day after October 7th

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that started launching rocket attacks

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across the border that had not stopped

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until this day . And Israel has a right

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to defend itself against those attacks .

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And can you , can you clarify or can

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you help us understand what exactly us

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is doing right now ? Um You know , if

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that 21 day ceasefire proposal is still

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on the table , like what are you

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exactly doing to sort of diplomatically

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end this , what is the secretary doing

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or what , what is the White House doing ?

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Because from , you know what , what it

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sounds like from what you're saying is

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last week , for example , a US official

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and I believe senior other US officials

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have said they , they disagreed with

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Israel's argument to escalate to

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deescalated . Now , you don't sound

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like you're disagreeing with that

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anymore . You're talking about how

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military pressure could yield to some

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sort of a diplomatic resolution . So I

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just want to understand what are you

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doing diplomatically ? We are engaged

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in diplomatic conversations with all of

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the relevant parties , parties in the

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region , our parties around the world ,

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the parties that were on the call that

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we put out last week for a diplomatic

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resolution and we continue to work to

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reach one . Um But if you can , if you

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look at the statement that we put out

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with the G7 , with the EU with a number

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of our important Arab partners last

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week , it was for a cease fire , but it

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was also for a diplomatic resolution

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that called for the implementation of

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Un Security Council 17 resolution 1701 .

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And what that resolution would require

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is something that Hezbollah has never

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done . And still to this day is not

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doing , which is to withdraw from the

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border in a way it was supposed to do

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years ago . So we will continue to push

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for a diplomatic resolution . But we

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should be clear that the burden of that

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diplomatic res resolution falls not

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just on Israel but on Hezbollah as well .

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Um On the on what comes after a

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diplomatic resolution for the current

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conflict ? Um Are you able to just give

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us a little bit more about the long

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term strategy on what happens with

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Lebanon ? Now , given that there is a

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bit of a power vacuum in the country .

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Is this something that you , that the

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US has longer term planning for ?

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Is this something that has caught the

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US off guard in terms of having to work

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with allies to plan now for the future

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of Lebanon ? Is there , is there

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something you can give us in terms of

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like understanding the US role in this

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next step for Lebanon ? So first of all ,

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I'd say that there has actually been a

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power vacuum in Lebanon for some time

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and there's been a power vacuum in

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Lebanon largely because Hezbollah has

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held a veto over the choosing of a new

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president and Hezbollah has prevented

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the convening of the parliament to

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choose a new president . So it is AAA

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sad statement of reality that there has

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been a political uh vacuum that has uh

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prevented that country from moving

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forward with um uh full political

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governance and uh an ability to

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implement Un Security Council 1701 , as

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well as a number of economic reforms

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that we have called for and other uh

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partners have called for for some time .

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So I would say , I think with respect

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to the events of the last few days , it

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is too early to say to see how tho

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those are gonna shake out . Uh

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Certainly , I think it is an unalloyed ,

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good for the people of Lebanon and the

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people of the broader region that

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Hassan Nasrallah is no longer walking

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the face of this earth . Um He is

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someone who , as I said , held

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Lebanon's political governance for

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moving forward . Uh He is someone who

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has attacked the civilians of Lebanese

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of Lebanon over the years , he's

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someone who's attacked obviously

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civilians of Israel . He's attacked

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American citizens and he's attacked uh

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civilians in Syria . So is not ally

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good for the region and the world that

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he is no longer with us . But where

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Lebanon will , will go from here , I

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think it is far too early to say ,

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obviously , we want to see the people

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of Lebanon able to choose their future

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and not be held hostage to a terrorist

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organization . And um on the , the

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talks last week in on the sidelines of

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New um at the UN General Assembly in

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New York . Um was there any ,

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would you , would you describe it as a

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miscommunication between the Israelis

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and the US about a ceasefire being

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something that they would also want to

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work towards or is that ? So I don't

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think I want to characterize it . We

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put out the statement that we made um

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with our partners in full co ordination

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with our partners . We at the same time

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were having conversations with the

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government of Israel and with the

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government of Lebanon , they obviously

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weren't a party to that statement or

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they would have , you would have seen

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their name on it . But uh it was one

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that we took in conjunction with our

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other partners . And ultimately , what

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we saw Israel do took 24 hours . But

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ultimately , what we saw them do is

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that they welcomed our efforts and they

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shared our aims , which is a long term

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diplomatic resolution . Now , what

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happens between now and getting there ?

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I think it's too early to say . But

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that is ultimately what we're going to

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try to bring about . Can I just ask the

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last one in Gaza ? There was reporting

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in the Israeli Press a few days ago

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about Yaya Sinar that there wasn't any

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communication with him . In the last

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couple of weeks , the secretary also

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spoke about this last week saying that

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Hamas is not engaging right now . Can

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you give us any update on the efforts

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there talks ? So I don't with respect

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to the first question when it comes to

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sin , I don't have any update on his

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condition at all one way or the other

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with when it comes to talks though .

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What the secretary was speaking to is

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the fact that , you know , several

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weeks ago , we were quite public about

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the fact that um we had presented a

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bridging proposal that tried to get

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both sides to . Yes . And there were a

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number of implementing details that we

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needed to work out and we were in a

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place where we were looking to present

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a further proposal that would um uh

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bridge those remaining differences .

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And what's happened over the past

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several weeks is that the mediators

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that discussed these issues with Hamas .

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So Qatar and Egypt have not been

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willing to get them to engage or sorry ,

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have not been able to get them to

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engage at all . They have very , very

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much , they Qatar and Egypt have very

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much been willing but have been had no

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party at the other end of the line ,

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willing to engage substantively at all

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in these proposals . So the reason you

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have not seen us put forward this

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proposal is we can't get a clear answer

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from Hamas of what they're willing to

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entertain and what they're not willing

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to entertain . So that's why the , the

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secretary made those comments . We're

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going to continue to try to work it .

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But it goes back to the point I made

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about cease fires in the context of

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Hezbollah to get a cease fire . You

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need parties on both sides that are

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willing to discuss the issues with you

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and ultimately make decisions . Um It's

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not to say that Israel has fully

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accepted uh a cease fire . Obviously ,

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we know they have tough decisions to

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make , but the issue over the last few

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weeks has been that has been unwilling

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to engage the Israelis still at the

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table . We are still engaged with the

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Israelis on the question and we had

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been this process . II , I spoke about

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where we were discussing the remaining

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issues with the mediators we had been

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doing with Israel and we have been

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discussing with Israel , how we could

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get by the various differences and have

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uh had an ongoing back and forth that

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would inform the proposal that we

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intended to present so that process has

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been ongoing . But his stalls on the

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other side , can I ask about , um ,

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plans for new or , or is the State

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Department's view that there are still

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viable commercial options out of

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Lebanon for American there bless you .

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Uh There , there are still commercial

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op uh options that are available . They

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are limited . Of course , we have been

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in contact with uh American citizens .

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We have urged American citizens to fill

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out the intake form uh on our website

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to receive information . We've heard

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from a number of American citizens and

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we are working with them to provide

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them updates about uh commercial

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flights that are available . Um We are

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working with airlines to address

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requests by us citizens to depart

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Lebanon uh by providing additional

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flights with seats for personnel

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purchase and we're exploring uh other

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options as we always do in this circum

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these circumstances , but I don't have

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anything to announce today . So , so

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what was the answer to his question ? I

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said it was a full , it was a full ,

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full answer about the things that we're

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doing and we are exploring . So we , we ,

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so we always , we are , we are not

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evacuating . Let me just be quick .

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We're not evacuating American citizens

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from uh uh Lebanon at this time . We

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always conduct a prudent planning

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process . We have been doing that for

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some months going all the way back to

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October 7th . But at this time ,

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there's still commercial options

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available . And when you talk about how

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the embassy is work and again , excuse

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my voice , when you talk about

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commercial options uh for flights , um

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you know , in the past or , or back in

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uh 2006 , uh a large majority of the

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people who left uh under your auspices

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left on ferries . Is that also , I

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don't want to say what options are or

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not under consideration at this time ,

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there are commercial options available .

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We are exploring other commercial

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flights available . We are exploring

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other potential options , should we

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need to ? But it's not a decision we've

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made as of yet . 21 . Are you

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still on the table ? Is that the , is

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it , is that the focus of us diplomatic

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efforts right now or are you also

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pursuing an other diplomatic solutions

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to what we're seeing between his blood ?

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It is the focus of our efforts uh

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linked , of course , as we made clear

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when we made the proposal in the first

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place to a broader diplomatic

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resolution , the idea of the cease fire

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was not a cease fire just for a cease

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fire's sake . It was a cease fire to

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give space to to pursue a broader

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diplomatic resolution that would

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include Hezbollah pulling back from the

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border . So Israeli citizens and

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Lebanese citizens would feel safe to

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return to their homes and to be clear ,

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you've still not received a direct

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Israeli response to that proposal

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because Netanyahu first threw cold

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water on it . Then his office put out a

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statement , you know , with some

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openness to a us role in bringing down

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tensions there but not responding to

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the proposal . So we don't know what

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Israel's response still is to that . Is

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that right ? We have , we have been

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engaged in ongoing discussions with

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them about the proposal . Um And then

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when , when we watch what Israel is

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doing here , you know , they're saying

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they're open to a diplomatic solution ,

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but they continue to forge ahead with

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these incursions into Lebanon . Is it

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the us view that it is productive for

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them to be continuing to carry out

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their military campaign against

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Hezbollah while you're trying to find a

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diplomatic solution . So as you heard

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me say a moment ago , look , we

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recognize that at times military

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pressure can enable diplomacy . That's

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true . That's true . I will say it also ,

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it is also true that military pressure

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can lead to miscalculation , it can

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lead to unintended consequences . Um We

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are in conversation with Israel about

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all those , all of these factors ,

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these are decisions that they have to

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make for themselves , no one else can

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make them for them . Um What we're

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going to continue to communicate to

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them is that while we support their

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right to defend themselves against

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terrorism , we support efforts to

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ensure that uh Israeli citizens can

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return to their homes . Ultimately , we

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believe a diplomatic resolution is the

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best way to accomplish that . And you

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won't say if the military pressure that

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they're applying now is productive or

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uh concerning and unproductive and

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could lead to a miscalculation . I'm

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not going to make an assessment . No ,

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go ahead . Matthias , Sna Kasem went

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out and said today that they will not

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stop uh attacks , they will continue .

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But the Lebanese Prime Minister , he

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said we are ready after meeting the

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speaker , we are ready to implement the

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1701 . We are ready to send the army to

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the borders and uh elect a new

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president . I know there's a lot of

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things changing in Lebanon at this

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moment . But is there a room to avoid a

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military operation in Lebanon ? I mean ,

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what , what are you asking for ? Are

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you asking now for Hezbollah to go and

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say we withdraw from the border ? We

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will implement the 1701 . So you can

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put pressure on the Israeli . Do you

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think there's a room with the Israeli

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government , this government to stop to

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avoid a ground operation ? We always

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believe that there is space for

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diplomacy and we are not going to give

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up on , on diplomacy in this instance

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as we never do . I will say we of

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course would welcome the full

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implementation of 1701 . We would

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welcome the Lebanese armed forces

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helping to enforce 1701 . We would

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welcome withdrawing from the border as

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they said , they would do when 1701 was

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passed and of course , never have done .

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So those are all steps that we would

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welcome . They would all be steps that

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would be important for deescalating

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tensions and finding a diplomatic way

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out of this conflict . And so we'll

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engage with Lebanon to see that those

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steps are implemented . But ultimately ,

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those are things that we have heard

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promised before that ultimately haven't

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been , ultimately haven't proven true .

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Certainly , we would welcome them if

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they were in this case . Why , why have

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you then been providing the Lebanese

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armed forces with hundreds of millions ,

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if not billions of dollars , if they

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haven't been doing what you want them ?

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Look , we continue to , to work to try

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to increase stability inside Lebanon .

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We have not given up on 1701 , but it's

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just a statement of fact that is not

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never been fully given up on the right .

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No , we have not . I'm sorry . Were you ,

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were you finished ? So just to follow

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up on this , on that question , if

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you're not giving up on the laugh and

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the Israeli are targeting Hezbollah ,

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but then how they are targeting them

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also is questionable . But the thing is

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regarding the infrastructure and the

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institutions in Lebanon , is there a

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kind of warning from the US government

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that they should not target , for

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example , the the airport , the port ,

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the laf we absolutely do not want to

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see civilian infrastructure targeted um

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terrorist infrastructure , Hezbollah

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targets of course , are legitimate

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targets for uh uh the ID f just as

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America and other countries would

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strike terrorist organizations that

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target them . But we do not want to see

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civilians targeted . We do not want to

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see uh civilian infrastructure targeted .

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And one more question , uh The Israeli

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Prime Minister also said that he wants

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to change the face of the Middle East

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and he was addressing the Iranian

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people . So uh what do you read in this

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speech ? Because he , he made this

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speech before also his operations in

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Lebanon . So I have not seen his full

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remarks and I saw that he released a

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video today . I haven't watched them in

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full . So I'm a little bit reluctant to

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comment on them at this time . I just

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wanted to follow up on what you were

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saying a moment ago because you've

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spoken a lot about the security issues

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for both Israel and Lebanon and sort of ,

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you know , across the border in a state

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on state sense . But what about how

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concerned are you about stability

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within Lebanon , both politically and

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socially , you know , we know that this

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is a country with a very fragile

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sectarian makeup . We've now had a huge

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shock to that given what the Israelis

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have done over the last week or two .

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And you know , which compounds a series

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of very significant shocks for that

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country over the last years from the

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financial crisis to the Beirut port

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explosion . And so on . So , what's

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your assessment on what all this does

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to Lebanon internally ? I think it is

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too early to say . And I'll go back to

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the answer that I gave . I don't

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remember whose question it was . The

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concern over Lebanon's stability is not

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something that just started last week .

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Right ? You look at the incidents that

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you spoke to . You , look at the fact

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that Hezbollah has prevented the

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appointment of a president for , I

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think it's around two years now . We

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have been greatly concerned about the

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stability of Lebanon . Uh in terms of

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what the events of the past week mean ,

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I think it is far too early to say ,

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but the exit of Hassan Nasrallah from

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the stage , um uh we believe is an

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unalloyed , good for the country and

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the region . It just is just a fact

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when you have a brutal terrorist with

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that much civilian blood on his hands ,

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um uh no longer operating , that is a

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good outcome . Um And to follow up on

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the points about , I mean , you were

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asked a lot about your uh demands or

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your calls rather for a , for a

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ceasefire last week . But you did more

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than that because you were calling for

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restraint repeatedly and the US was

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leading the diplomatic charge at the

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United Nations on this . Um , what we

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have definitely not seen is restraints .

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Um And , and you talked about a cease

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fire involving two sides . But on this ,

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we have seen a very sharp escalation by

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the Israelis . So your your call for

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restraint has failed . So we continue

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to call for a diplomatic resolution .

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But at the same time as I said ,

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Hezbollah has continued to launch

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rockets that have kept Israeli

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civilians from returning to their home .

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And Israel absolutely along with any ,

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along with every country in the world

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has a right to defend itself from

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terrorism . It also has a right to go

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after legitimate terrorist targets like

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Hassan Nasrallah and we support them

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taking those steps just as we have

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brought terrorists who targeted

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American citizens to justice over time .

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But that said we long term want to see

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a diplomatic resolution . That's what

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we're continuing to pursue . But it's

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just all those things were true . You

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know , we've seen this , the Hezbollah

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rocket fire for many , many months ,

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what we've had in the last week or two

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is the killing of more than 1000 people

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according to Lebanese officials in

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these Israeli strikes , more than a

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million people displaced according to

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the United Nations . I mean , that's a

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huge game changing escalation . And

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last week you were calling for

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restraint . So I'm just sort of asking

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the question about whether or not you

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think you've got restraint . Well , all

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your calls were heeded . Let me just

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take a few things specifically when it

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comes to the death of Hassan , which is ,

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I think the , the event that most

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people have have referred to as the

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most escalatory we support bringing him

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to justice . We think that ultimately

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is something that's good . We think

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that's ultimately something that's good

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for the country now . Yes , of course ,

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we do not want to see any civilian

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harmed , uh , in that attack or in any

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other , but we support them bringing

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terrorists to justice . We support

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attacks on Hezbollah . But as I said ,

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um , uh , at the beginning , this kind

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of activity can both enable diplomacy

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and it can also lead to miscalculation ,

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it can lead to unintended consequences .

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And so we're going to continue to

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engage , to try to de escalate tensions

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to , to the best of our ability ,

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ensure that it doesn't lead to

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miscalculation and unintended

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consequences . But ultimately , Israel

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is a sovereign country that is going to

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make these decisions for itself . And

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just on that point about displacement ,

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I mean , I mentioned the U saying more

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than a million people in Lebanon . I

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mean , many of us are fleeing across

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the border into Syria . Are you happy ?

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I'll rephrase the question given the ,

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given the way in which much of this was

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done involving , you know , uh warnings

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delivered by mobile phone from the

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Israelis for people to leave their

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homes in the middle of the night . Um

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for example , uh uh is this process in

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compliance with International

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Humanitarian law and the way it's been

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done ? So it's not the kind of

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assessment I can offer from here ,

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obviously to make any to ever reach any

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of that type of assessment . It's

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something that uh officials have to do

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here looking at the full facts and not

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something I can offer a , a quick

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reaction immediately after the events

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transpire . Are you just how worried

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is this department about the

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humanitarian impact of 1 million people

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leaving Lebanon at this time ? Of

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course , we are worried about the

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humanitarian impact . We're worried

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about how that can be destabilizing as

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we've seen before during refugee crises .

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And we are engaged with partners in the

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region . We'll continue to be engaged

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to try to , to um uh uh deli

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to find the best way to deliver

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humanitarian assistance to those people .

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But ultimately , the best thing that we

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can do and that other countries in the

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world can do is find a dip diplomatic

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resolution that allows those people to

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return to their homes . These obviously

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are not the first people that have had

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to flee their homes as a result of this

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conflict . You've had somewhere around

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60 70,000 uh Israeli families . I think

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I've seen estimates somewhere around

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40,000 , I should say Israelis , not

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Israeli families , somewhere around 40

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or 50,000 Lebanese who've had to flee

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from their homes . So this is

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unfortunately a problem we've seen

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since the outset of this conflict ,

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which is why the ultimate way to bring

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all those people home is to reach a dip

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diplomatic resolution . And is there

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any near term prospect of getting them

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the things that they need as they're

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fleeing and leaving their home . It's

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something that we're working on with

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humanitarian organizations . Obviously ,

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we're in the early days of , of this

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humanitarian situation , but we are in

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contact with our partners in the region

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and humanitarian organizations at the

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UN and elsewhere about how to best

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provide humanitarian assistance to

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those people ? And are you worried

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about um pulling resources from those

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who have been displaced in Gaza as a

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result of this mounting humanitarian

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problem ? So that would always be a

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concern . But what we would always in

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this type of situation as happens

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whenever there is a humanitarian crisis ,

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anywhere in the world that you don't um

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uh uh any anywhere in the world is ,

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we'll look to identify if necessary new

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sources of funding to provide

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humanitarian assistance to people who ,

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who need it . You said that Israel has

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indicated that the ground operations

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are limited at this time that doesn't

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preclude a ground invasion and there

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are experts inside and outside the US

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government that say Israel appears

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poised for a ground invasion . Is that

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not what you see ? So I'm just going to

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speak to what our understanding is of

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their operations at this time . I'm not

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going to speak to what steps they may

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or may not take in the future , they'll

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have to speak for themselves . And if I

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could follow up on what you were

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talking about earlier Netanyahu is

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actually expanding the war . So despite

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us calls for diplomacy , as you

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mentioned earlier , cease fire , he's

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expanding it not just into Lebanon but

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also into Yemen . Is it safe to say

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that he's simply ignoring us concern ?

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So let me take a little issue with the

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way you frame the question . Israel did

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not attack Hezbollah first . Israel did

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not attack the Houthis first . In both

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cases , those were responses by the

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government of Israel to attacks from

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terrorist organizations . So they

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struck Hezbollah after taking months

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and months of rocket fire and last week

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missile fire drone fire from Hezbollah

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when it comes to the Houthis , they

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have been on the receiving end of

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attacks including in recent days from

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the houthis that they were responding

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to . So they like every country in the

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world have a right to defend themselves

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from terrorism . Now , the way they do

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it matters ensuring that they do so in

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a way that doesn't uh that avoids

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miscalculation and doesn't um uh

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needlessly increase tensions . That is

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the type of thing we will continue to

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uh be in conversation with them about .

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But I , I think we ought to just be

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clear about the facts of what happened .

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Sure . But I mean , you , you have

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mentioned that the US has co restraint .

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I mean , have you seen any restraint ?

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So um I'm gonna just uh go back to what

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I have uh spoken to which is we want to

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see a diplomatic resolution . But when

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it comes to restraint , we also support

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Israel's right to defend itself against

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terrorism . If the United States was on

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the receiving end of a terrorist

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organization launching rockets at us ,

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we would defend ourselves against that

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terrorist organization if that was

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Hezbollah . If that was the houthis ,

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if that was Hamas , I can guarantee you

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those are steps that we would take .

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Those are steps that just about any

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country in the world would take . Now

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the way they do it matters , the fact

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that they need to be smart and

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strategic matters and we're gonna

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continue to talk with them about how

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best to accomplish those goals , but

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they absolutely have the right to

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defend themselves against the ongoing

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attacks from terrorism . One bit of

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clarification here are the Houthis

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currently designated FTO . They are not

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a designated FTO , but they

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isn't one of the first things this

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administration did when it came into

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office to remove the Houthis . If you

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recall , we have designated them under

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another , another designation that and ,

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and continue and continue under this

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other designation to refer to them and

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treat them as a terrorist organization .

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Just a

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Lebanon . And I will have one more

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question on the region . Um You said

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Israelis told you that this is a

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limited operation . Can you elaborate

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more on that ? Like what is , what ,

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how do you define a limited operation

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and how do you define a major operation ?

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So I am uh this is not a us definition ,

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this is what they have informed us that

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they are currently conducting , which

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are limited operations targeting

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Hezbollah infrastructure near the

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border . I will let them speak for

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themselves about what the operations

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actually are and that is our

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understanding again , they should speak

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to that not us . Yeah . And uh today

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marks the fourth week uh since the

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killing of Turkish American activist

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Eishin Eg by Israeli forces in the West

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Bank . Um Do you have any updates on

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the investigation ? So the we were

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engaged uh in recent days with the

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government of Israel about exactly this

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question and um we informed that the

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full criminal investigation is still

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ongoing and have they given you any

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timeline ? Uh I'm not aware of any time

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that's possible given to other

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officials , but I'm not aware of 11

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more on this . Uh 103 U Congress

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members have sent , they said they sent

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a letter to Secretary Billing and

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President Biden and the justice

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department calling for an independent

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investigation into the killing of Aisha .

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Can you confirm if you receive this

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letter ? And uh do you have any

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response to them ? So , I uh I'm sure

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we have received the letter , I'm not

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aware , but I'm sure we have and we

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will respond to them uh in due time

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through a normal process as we always

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do . But when it comes to um whether

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there needs to be a subsequent

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investigation . We've made clear we

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want to see the full criminal

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investigation play out first before we

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make any other decisions on the ground .

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You don't want to define it . But what

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you are against , I mean , are you

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against the Israelis staying in South

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Lebanon ? Are you against another

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occupation ? I know you don't want to

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define . We want to see a diplomatic

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resolution period . I leave it at that .

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Yeah . Thank you . Switch to Ukraine if

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I may , you guys put out a joint

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statement on Ukraine , Russia's

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annexation of portion of Ukrainian

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regions , some of them was under

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constant attack . They attack all the

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region . We give , you just expand on

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that and don't do that . Ukraine

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actually could be able to prevent those

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attacks if it had permission to strike

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back . So I don't have anything to

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expand on the statement that we put out .

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But of course , Ukraine , first of all ,

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Ukraine does not need our permission to

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strike back against Russian targets .

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Um They're a sovereign country and can

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use um the weapons that they build on

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their own of which are many , if you

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look at the programs that they have put

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in place over the last year . And then

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when you look at the weapons that we

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have provided to them , we've made

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clear that they can use them to strike

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back against Russian targets across the

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border that are launching attacks . Um

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So Ukraine does have um uh uh an

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enormous amount of material to defend

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itself . We always look at whether

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there are additional tools that we can

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provide them . If you notice the

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announcement that the president made on

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Thursday , we are providing them an

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additional $8 billion in security

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assistance and we will continue to

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support them if you're ok with

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Ukrainians striking back , then , why

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not let them strike ? So , Alex , first

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of all , I'm just going to say again

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that you and I have had this

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conversation before about weapon

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systems that or we or tactics that you

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presented to me as um the one

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magic capability that would change the

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face of the conflict . And I think I

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have always made clear that that is not

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how we see it , that we look at all the

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capabilities and all the tactics and

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all the support that we provide . Uh

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Ukraine in totality and look at how

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when we approve any new weapon system

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or any new tactic , we look at how it's

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going to affect the entire battlefield

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and Ukraine's entire strategy and

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that's what we'll continue to do . Let

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me go ahead . Thank you . Um What we're

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seeing , Lebanon , we saw a similar

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pattern with uh with regards to Rafah

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first , the UF saying us , excuse me

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saying that they wouldn't want to see

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Israel conducting major operations .

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Then Israel going ahead with what they

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called limited operations and then this

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continued tolerance of sort of day to

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day attacks that has led to over 44% of

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all buildings in Rafah being either

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destroyed or damaged according to

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satellite photos , which is to say that

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there might not have been a major

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operation in Rafah , but there was

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cumulative attacks that led to a good

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deal of destruction . So how does this

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President of Rafah Portend for Le

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Lebanon ? So every conflict is

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different . But if you look at what um

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we continue to engage with Israel about

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when it comes to Lebanon is ensuring

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that they have the ability to attack

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terrorist targets , terrorist

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infrastructure to a terrorist

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organization . But ultimately , we want

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to see a diplomatic resolution was that

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the case with , for instance , not just

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we've never wanted to hold on , we've

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never wanted to see a diplomatic

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resolution with Hamas . Ok . Well ,

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what about the c we wanted to see a

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cease fire but we have always been , we

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have always been committed to the

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destruction of Hamas . We did want to

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see a ceasefire , but we have always

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made clear that we wanted to see a

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different authority moving forward in

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governance of Gaza . Ok . But so for

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instance , other un satellite image

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shows that 66% of Gaza structures have

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been damaged . And you earlier today

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said that the US supports the targeting

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of terrorist infrastructure , not

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civilian infrastructure . Does the US

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believe 66% of Gaza's buildings are

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terrorist ? Absolutely not , absolutely

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not , which is why we have been engaged

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to try to reach a cease fire to end

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that conflict , which is why we have

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been pushing for a cease fire to months .

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And I wish that Hamas would come to the

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table and work with us on a cease fire .

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As you saw , as you heard me saying

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earlier , Hamas has been absent for

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weeks , won't even respond to the

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mediators putting forward ideas asking

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whether they would agree to a cease

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fire or not . Look , you can talk about

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Israel and the culpability that has uh

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that Israel has and the tough decisions

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that Israel needs to make . And it's

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absolutely true that Israel needs to

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make tough decisions to get to a cease

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fire . But the way out of this conflict

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is a cease fire and it Hamas that's

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missing in action right now . That

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won't come to the table to talk about

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one . And then finally , a few weeks

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ago , the US ambassador to the UN said

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quote , I do not believe that

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Palestinians as they exist right now

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have all the elements to give it

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statehood . What do you think ? Which

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elements are Palestinians missing ? And

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do you think the US continual ,

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unconditional support to bomb Gaza and

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Palestine supports recieving those ?

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I'll give you one of the elements that

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is missing , which is Palestinian

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Authority , governance of Gaza . You've

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seen Hamas in charge of Gaza going back

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months or going back years we have

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tried to reach uh or we have put

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forward ideas for Palestinian Authority ,

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governance of Gaza and ultimately a

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unified Gaza and the West Bank . That's

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as something that would be a

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prerequisite to a state . That's

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something that's obviously not

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happening right now . It's something

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that we'll continue to push for . And

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then one thing , I'm sorry , thank you .

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One last week , the Israeli Minister of

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Education Yoav Kish said that Lebanon

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will be annihilated and there is quote

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no difference between Lebanon and

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Hezbollah . What's your response to a

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person tasked with educating Israelis

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saying such a thing ? Well , obviously

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that statement is not true and those

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comments are completely inappropriate .

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You said the Palestinian Authority ,

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one of one of the defects or

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shortcomings , the P A doesn't have

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control over Gaza . Do you think that

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the P A has effective governing control

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over the West Bank ? It has effective

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governing control over parts of the

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West Bank ? Certainly not all of it ,

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some of it , some of which parts , the

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parts that is in control of and then

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there are other parts where Israeli

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maintains security control . So it

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certainly does with parts of the West

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Bank in Lebanon during the past week ,

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Israel targeted many residential

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buildings and heavy airstrikes and one

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of them , 33 people were killed in Bea .

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Israel always is claiming that there

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are Hezbollah members there . Um How is

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the US not condemning or finding it

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normal that a whole building can be

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targeted only for one person , even if

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kids are being torn to pieces and

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sometimes we don't see a Hezbollah

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member after , in that building , after

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it was like , uh , hit by an airstrike .

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So we don't want to see a single

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civilian casualty in Lebanon . Yeah ,

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we are seeing them as we see them in

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other conflicts and it is a tragedy and

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it is why we are trying to pursue a

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diplomatic resolution to this conflict .

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Um , this conflict never would have

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started again if you want to talk about

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culpability . If Hezbollah on October

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8th hadn't started attacking Israel , I

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know , but it's important to understand

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why Israel is defending itself against

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these attacks . It's because Hezbollah

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started a war started a conflict with

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Israel on October 8th . Had nothing to

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do with Gaza . Nothing at all to do

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with Gaza . They started the conflict

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and Israel has a right to defend itself

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against that terrorism . Now , that

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doesn't mean that every civilian death

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is a tragedy . Of course , it is . And

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Israel needs to do everything possible

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to minimize civilian casualties . But

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the reason why this conflict , let me

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just let me just before you interrupt .

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Just let me finish the reason why this

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conflict is happening in the first

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place is because for 12 months ,

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Hezbollah has been attacking Israel 12

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months and has been unwilling to cease

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those attacks . And that's why Israel

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is defending itself . Yeah , but

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they're not doing , they , they are not

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doing a better job . We saw it in Gaza

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and we're seeing it again in Lebanon ,

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there's always a lot of civilian

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casualties . There are always kids that

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are being targeted and aid workers

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being targeted . So they're not doing

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their best job . They absolutely need

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to do more to minimize civilian

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casualties . And ultimately , that's

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why we want to see a diplomatic

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resolution to the conflict is because

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not just the destabilizing effects on

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the region , but the terrible toll that

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this war produces for civilians in

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Lebanon that's produced for civilians

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in Gaza . And of course that it

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produced on October 7th for civilians

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inside Israel . Thank you very much

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Matt . Uh in Pakistan , this doughnut

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shop has become very popular by the

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name of Crusty's because its employee

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had called the Chief Justice of the

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Supreme Court of Pakistan that uh shame

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on you . Um My question is , do you

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hear these things ? I mean ,

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spokesperson , you see globally , do

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you see countries where the chief

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justices are called ? Uh shame on you .

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I am not fully tracking uh donut shop ,

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the latest doughnut shop news from

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Pakistan , I will admit . So um

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uh not , not , I'm not tracking

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northern Virginia donut news either ,

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but I'm happy to be educated . I love

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donuts . So sour cream doughnuts

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especially want to bring in the

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briefing room after after the three

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pillars of the states that have gone in

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Pakistan . That's why I was asking

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about it . But uh uh KP , the province

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which I belong to and have the

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newspaper since 40 years . Its chief

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minister in a statement yesterday said

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to the Federal Government of Shabaz

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Sharif uh after the protest was

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interrupted and stuff , uh that if next

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time you shoot us with one bullet ,

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we're gonna shoot you with 10 bullets .

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Um Does these kind of statements worry

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the US at all about the

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situation ? Uh So I wasn't aware of

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that statement until you brought to my

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attention . I'd want to see it in its

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full context before I commented , let

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me let me because I'm running out of

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time . Thank you so much , Matt . I

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have three short questions on

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Bangladesh issue . Given Noel Laura and

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chief advisor to the Bangladesh

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government , Mohammad Yu , recent

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acknowledgement of meticulously

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designed conspiracy leading to

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political change in Bangladesh , as he

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said at the Clinton Global Initiative

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annual meeting . It's amazingly

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meticulously designed thing . Nothing

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happened by chance . My question is

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what shall be the US government stand

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on home to hold responsible for killing

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of hundreds of people in Bangladesh

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from human rights . We think there need

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to be full investigations into the

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civilians who lost their life during

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the protests and the crackdown on the

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protests in recent months and there

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needs to be full accountability for

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anyone responsible . Thank you so much .

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And there are reports of violence

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involving the use of armed forces

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against workers in Ashia area near

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Dhaka . These casualties reported also

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given reference in 2014 Chairman of the

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US State Committee on Foreign Relations ,

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Robert Menendez said on the first

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anniversary of the Rana Plaza tragedy

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that Western countries would not buy

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clothes that are stained with the blood

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of Bangladeshi workers . Given the US a

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long standing advocacy for labor rights

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and peaceful protests . Does the State

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Department have any comments and

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concerns regarding this ? Let me take

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that one back and get an answer . Last

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question on press on Bangladesh ,

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several prominent journalists in

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Bangladesh including Shakil Ahmed F

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Arua Muzamil , Ha Babu Shamal Da and

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Mahmud Rahman are reportedly being held

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in custody without bail . Given the

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importance of press freedom as a pillar

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of democracy . Does the State

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Department Department have any concern

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on comments regarding the current

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situation in Bangladesh ? We want to

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see press freedoms upheld in Bangladesh

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and of course across the world in the

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back . Thank you . Did you get an

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answer to the question ? No , I have to

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follow up with you on it for the last

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few hours . Israel has been striking

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not only in Dhi the suburbs but also in

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Ka which is inside Beirut for the first

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time . An area called that it's a

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connection point to the airport where

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there is many foreigners , not just

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Lebanese people , people from many

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sects . So it's not just Hezbollah ,

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are you concerned about this more

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recent strike ? And is it time to ask ,

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uh are you coordinate with Israel about

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whether what is a red line , what is

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not a red line where to strike and bomb

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because there is us citizens in Lebanon

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and that's an area frequently . So I've

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seen reports that strike , I don't have

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any further information about it . So I

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wouldn't want to comment on detail .

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But as I said earlier , of course , we

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did not want to see any civilian

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targets , any civilian infrastructure

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targeted in any way we go to Nick and

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there's a reporting , the US will not

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seek another term on the UN Human

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Rights Council . Is that accurate ? And

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so it is accurate . We decided not to

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seek another Human rights Council

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another spot on the Human Rights

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Council this time just because we were

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with our allies about the best way to

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move forward . There are three seats

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available for countries that were

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interested . We looked at the other

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countries that were running for this

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spot , uh Spain Iceland , Switzerland ,

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all of them are countries with a very

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strong record of support for human

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rights . We thought they would could uh

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carry the flag forward . Uh But we will

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engage , uh we will continue to remain

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engaged on um uh human rights issues

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and are currently slated to run again

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in 2028 that we're out for today .

