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Be a brief background on myself ,

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started ministry when I was 15 years

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old . So about 24 years ago , I've been

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a pastor in many capacities . I play

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keys and sax . So I've been a worship

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pastor , uh been a lead pastor , a

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youth pastor , a college pastor towards

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the end of my pastorate years , though

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I got involved in a level two trauma

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center hospital . So I was a chaplain

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on call chaplain in Saint Angelo ,

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Texas , was also a full time hospice

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chaplain in Saint Angelo and really

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felt the call into the chaplaincy

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because I , I love being with people .

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I love walking alongside others and not

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considered a privilege and an honor in

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good times and bad times . Uh even on

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your worst day to step beside you and

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just be a small , non anxious presence

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of hope uh to lift you up and say we're

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gonna get through this together and

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consider it just a

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privilege to be on this side of the

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grass uh to wake up and to serve in a a

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and to get to be your chaplain .

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I am here . I I think of the patients

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and but , but specifically as I'm

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learning my role at IA I , I'm , I'm

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thinking of the staff , I think of the

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burdens that the staff carry the day in

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and day out o of working in a hospital ,

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the things that you carry on with and

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carry through and then you're expected

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to show up at work the next day . And

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so I really feel like my role here is

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probably to staff first and , and then

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patient care . I , I think if we take

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care of staff , then our staff will

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take care of patients .

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I think we can all find ways uh

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to serve together to walk together in

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commonalities . It is true that I wear

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a cross on my uniform and I am a

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Christian and I believe that that Jesus

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as Lord , what is also true though is I

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realize that even within our ranks are

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many different belief structures , non

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belief structures . And I think when

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you get into the conversations about

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identity and purpose and

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hardship and stress and trust and

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teamwork and moral injury and spiritual

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injury , that's where the chaplain lane

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really begins to develop that . I think

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that's where we can start walking

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alongside . Uh If I've counseled with

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one , I've counseled with 100 chaplain .

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I've lost my purpose chaplain . I don't

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know what my purpose is . That could be

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a connection to a higher power , that

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could be a connection to , to God . But

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in true army fashion FM 7-22 . It could

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also be a connection to inner self . Uh

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What , what is it that you cling to and

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can I pull that out ? Uh That gets you

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through difficult moments and difficult

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times . So when I first

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joined the army , I found the tension

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to be a lot higher . I was trained in

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specific vocabulary , specific wording ,

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a specific way to look at spirituality

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and in my tradition , right ?

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Spirituality is a sacredness . It's ,

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it's something that's other than me ,

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it's a transcendence . And , and I lean

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into that and I can lean into that with

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soldiers . And there are times when I

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do , but then there are also times the

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the tension has become less over the

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years of being in the military . In

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that the common themes can be the same

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because oftentimes when a chaplain's

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called , uh there's some type of

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suffering involved . There's , there's

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something that happened in chaplain .

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We need you to , to step in and just be

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a presence for a moment . What I find

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is regardless of spiritual tradition or

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religious tradition that I can meet

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someone in their suffering , I can be

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present in suffering . I am a firm

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believer that people don't care how

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much , you know , until they know how

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much you care . And I think care is

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fundamental . I think as I reflect ,

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it's , it's interesting because I

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probably wouldn't have answered this

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way . Five years ago , I would have

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been like , oh , this is it what I

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would offer though is as a chaplain .

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It's , it's fun because I do have a

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church that endorses me . I do have a

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left and right of the cross that I can

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and can't do . There are some things

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that are IND doctrine that I can do and

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there are some things I can't if I

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can't do that though . The role of a

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chaplain in the army is to provide , to

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figure out a way to , to call another

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chaplain , uh , to , to meet the need

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that's present . And so , so what I

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would offer is in , in your question of

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spirituality , it's a both . And so

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sometimes I do feel like let me share a

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little bit of my faith with you if

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that's appropriate , if it's something

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that you want . But I don't have to do

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that . I can't just walk beside you to

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be present .

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I , I'll tell you where I find that I'm

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often different than many chaplains ,

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believe it or not . I love to laugh .

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Uh I'm not one who takes myself too

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seriously . I've met some that , uh ,

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just expect the chaplain to be so

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heavenly minded that they're no earthly

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good and that's just not who I am . I ,

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I also think I've met , I've met many

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who believe the chaplain's just there

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for the death moments . That's the only

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time the chaplain is gonna show up .

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And I'm gonna tell you right now . I'm

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not that chaplain either . I , I'm

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gonna walk around cause honestly ,

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chaplains at , at least in the army's

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perspective . And I believe even in the

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hospital perspective , we , we gauge or

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we advise command on four different

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components and those four different

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components are morale and morals ,

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religion and ethics . And so if it

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falls on those four categories , it's

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our job . It's our role uh to just be

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another ear for the commander so that

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we can advise the commander . Hey , sir ,

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ma'am , this is what I'm seeing from my

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lane and , and I whatever you want to

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do with it , what you want to do with

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it , but we're kind of just that

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presence and the coolest thing about

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the chaplain and I would offer to you

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in the hospital . I've tried to tell

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some staff leverage me however you want

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because in the army or in , in a , a uh

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chaplains have 100% confidentiality . I

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don't have to repeat anything . I can't

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be forced to repeat anything . But what

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I can do is when there's a concern that

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comes up , uh , you can raise that

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concern with me and I don't have to

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repeat your name . I , I just need to

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get a gauge of what's happening . And

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so I think the fun thing about being a

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chaplain is you get to be in the ebb

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and flow of life , just get to be

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present uh with folks . And I consider

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that my probably primary role is a

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bridge between the most junior enlisted

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soldier to the highest in command , uh ,

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to every civilian that's in our

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hospital . I , I get to just be a part

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of your life if you want me to , don't

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have to be .

