WEBVTT 00:00.159 --> 00:02.381 Welcome to the Sector . I'm your host , 00:02.381 --> 00:05.409 Patrick Young . And today we have two 00:05.420 --> 00:08.500 very uh important individuals . Two of 00:08.510 --> 00:11.539 our , our uh newest unit members uh 00:11.550 --> 00:14.319 from the 2 24th air defense squadron . 00:14.489 --> 00:17.219 We have senior airman , Tyler mccall 00:17.280 --> 00:20.250 and senior airman Jared Hornecker . So , 00:20.260 --> 00:22.379 gentlemen , welcome to the Sector . 00:23.420 --> 00:25.142 Thank you . Happy to be here . 00:25.409 --> 00:28.790 Appreciate you coming in . Um So guys , 00:28.799 --> 00:30.743 we uh we brought you here today to 00:30.743 --> 00:32.743 kinda talk a little bit about you , 00:32.743 --> 00:34.910 right ? We wanna get , you get to know 00:34.910 --> 00:37.459 you uh a bit more uh kind of learn your 00:37.470 --> 00:40.229 backgrounds . Um you know , get a sense 00:40.240 --> 00:42.439 of , of what uh compelled you to join 00:42.450 --> 00:44.779 the military . And then obviously , um 00:44.790 --> 00:47.389 what brought you to the , to us here um 00:47.400 --> 00:49.430 at the sector . So we'll kind of go 00:49.439 --> 00:52.509 around Robin uh uh senior Herman mccall . 00:52.590 --> 00:54.868 Um Tell us a little bit about yourself . 00:54.868 --> 00:56.923 Where are you from ? You know , what 00:56.923 --> 00:59.146 are your interests ? Um You know , give 00:59.146 --> 01:01.312 us a little background . Yeah , sure . 01:01.312 --> 01:04.260 Uh My name is Tyler mccall . I was 01:04.269 --> 01:05.825 raised in North Carolina in 01:05.825 --> 01:08.690 Fayetteville and uh my father actually 01:08.699 --> 01:10.866 was in the military before me . He had 01:10.866 --> 01:14.000 served six years in the army over in 01:14.010 --> 01:16.709 artillery in Oklahoma actually . Oh , 01:16.809 --> 01:19.910 wow . Funny enough . Yeah . And , um , 01:20.169 --> 01:22.058 he always talked about how it bro 01:22.058 --> 01:24.519 broaden his horizons and gave him 01:24.529 --> 01:26.751 experience with different people . So , 01:26.751 --> 01:29.279 when I became 18 he , uh , kinda pushed 01:29.290 --> 01:31.346 for me to join the military a little 01:31.346 --> 01:33.568 bit and I looked into it and I took the 01:33.568 --> 01:35.679 ad lab just to see how I would do . I 01:35.679 --> 01:37.734 didn't do too bad . So the air force 01:37.734 --> 01:39.900 started knocking at my door . How did 01:39.910 --> 01:42.021 dad feel about the choice for the air 01:42.021 --> 01:44.132 force over the army ? Did he , did he 01:44.132 --> 01:46.132 have a preference ? He was actually 01:46.132 --> 01:48.188 excited . I chose the air force over 01:48.188 --> 01:50.243 the army . He did . He said the army 01:50.243 --> 01:52.466 was not the way to go . He did that for 01:52.466 --> 01:54.632 you . He was gonna allow you to take a 01:54.632 --> 01:54.449 different path . He took the bullets 01:54.459 --> 01:57.809 for me on that one . So , you know , I 01:57.819 --> 02:00.669 had uh my recruiter was a load master 02:01.129 --> 02:03.190 and he had told me , you know , that 02:03.199 --> 02:05.199 load master is the way to go . They 02:05.199 --> 02:07.366 travel all over the world , you know , 02:07.366 --> 02:09.421 flying is so much fun . He showed me 02:09.421 --> 02:11.477 the description . I was like , nah , 02:11.477 --> 02:14.050 not for me . That looks boring . So he 02:14.059 --> 02:16.115 was like , ok , kid , I'm gonna give 02:16.115 --> 02:18.281 you one out for three . And yeah , the 02:18.281 --> 02:20.389 rest is history . I went to Tinker 02:20.740 --> 02:22.860 spent five years there as an airborne 02:22.869 --> 02:26.389 radar technician . And um yeah , 02:26.559 --> 02:28.781 excellent thanks . What are some of the 02:28.781 --> 02:30.670 things you like to do outside the 02:30.670 --> 02:32.759 uniform for fun , for hobbies , uh , 02:32.770 --> 02:34.889 outside of uniform . I enjoy spending 02:34.899 --> 02:37.139 time with my dogs a lot . I love taking 02:37.149 --> 02:39.679 them on walks . How many ? Two dog ? 02:40.210 --> 02:42.377 What kind ? I have a , uh , Australian 02:42.377 --> 02:45.029 Shepherd and the other one's a little 02:45.039 --> 02:47.150 ball of joy . She got a little bit of 02:47.150 --> 02:51.050 everything . Yeah . Um , probably 02:51.059 --> 02:53.509 not today as far as it's good for walks 02:53.520 --> 02:57.410 but any other day , maybe outside of 02:57.419 --> 02:59.475 that , uh , you know , just , I like 02:59.475 --> 03:01.808 exploring the town and stuff , you know , 03:01.808 --> 03:03.919 taking in the new environment and the 03:03.919 --> 03:06.252 culture and stuff , going to the movies , 03:06.252 --> 03:08.475 you know , stuff like that , relaxing , 03:08.830 --> 03:10.941 relaxing things to do when you're not 03:10.941 --> 03:13.350 working . And , uh , so , uh airman , 03:13.360 --> 03:15.582 uh Hardaker , how about you , uh , give 03:15.582 --> 03:17.804 us a little background on yourself . Uh 03:17.804 --> 03:20.027 Where did you come from ? Uh , what are 03:20.027 --> 03:22.193 some of your interests , things you do 03:22.193 --> 03:24.416 outside the uniform ? Absolutely . Uh , 03:24.416 --> 03:26.360 so I was , uh born in Fort Worth , 03:26.360 --> 03:28.416 Texas and , uh raised in Weatherford 03:28.416 --> 03:31.759 Texas . Um , until I was about 03:32.309 --> 03:34.929 16 , I think I actually ended up moving 03:34.940 --> 03:37.529 up to Maine and , uh f uh 03:38.759 --> 03:40.703 completing high school and whatnot 03:40.703 --> 03:43.830 there . And , uh , went to college , 03:44.639 --> 03:46.820 worked in kind of the private sector 03:47.029 --> 03:49.820 and I joined a little bit later into 03:49.830 --> 03:53.690 the military . Um , very similar . 03:53.699 --> 03:56.199 My father was in uh the Air Force as 03:56.210 --> 03:59.889 well . Uh I always had it as a , um , 04:02.339 --> 04:04.283 kind of in the back of my head , a 04:04.283 --> 04:07.089 possibility . Um , I was trying to 04:07.320 --> 04:11.169 complete college and , you know , get a 04:11.179 --> 04:14.440 job . Kind of like the , in my mind it 04:14.449 --> 04:16.505 was like the American dream to go to 04:16.505 --> 04:18.671 college and then get , go right into , 04:18.671 --> 04:21.589 uh , the private sector or , um , you 04:21.600 --> 04:24.959 know , the work sector . And , uh , for 04:24.970 --> 04:27.026 me it wasn't , it didn't really work 04:27.026 --> 04:29.929 out , but I decided to go into the 04:29.940 --> 04:33.929 military and it's been uh , 04:34.410 --> 04:37.769 like a complete different role 04:38.209 --> 04:40.487 um than what I thought it was gonna be . 04:40.487 --> 04:42.760 And I , I really enjoyed it . And uh 04:43.309 --> 04:44.809 yeah , kind of offered you 04:44.809 --> 04:46.959 opportunities that uh you , you might 04:46.970 --> 04:49.820 not have even considered . Absolutely . 04:49.829 --> 04:53.630 Yeah , I , my , my bias before I 04:53.640 --> 04:57.420 joined is completely , it was uh 04:57.690 --> 04:59.857 in my mind , not what I thought it was 04:59.857 --> 05:01.968 gonna be a , once you put the uniform 05:01.968 --> 05:04.250 on and , and you're , you're actively a 05:04.260 --> 05:06.593 part of an organization in the military . 05:06.600 --> 05:08.489 Uh It , it definitely gives you a 05:08.489 --> 05:10.711 different perspective in a positive way 05:10.711 --> 05:12.630 I think for the most part . Um So 05:12.640 --> 05:15.589 that's a great segue . Um So you made 05:15.600 --> 05:17.600 the decision , you know , you , you 05:17.600 --> 05:19.711 tried some different things , college 05:19.711 --> 05:22.109 work . Um but um had a little bit of a , 05:22.119 --> 05:24.341 a family legacy there with dad being in 05:24.341 --> 05:26.989 the Air Force . Um So what really drove 05:27.000 --> 05:30.559 you into um active duty because uh 05:30.570 --> 05:33.320 both airman mccall and Airman Hornecker 05:33.329 --> 05:35.440 came to us from the active duty Air 05:35.450 --> 05:38.429 Force . So , um a and uh Hornier what , 05:38.440 --> 05:40.773 what drove you in and then tell us , uh , 05:40.773 --> 05:42.829 you know , your experience well , in 05:42.829 --> 05:44.829 active duty , what , what were some 05:44.829 --> 05:47.162 high points and things that really , um , 05:47.162 --> 05:49.440 made the experience positive and , and , 05:49.440 --> 05:51.600 uh , has kept you into , uh , into 05:51.609 --> 05:55.429 today ? Yeah . So the , one of the 05:55.440 --> 05:59.109 big proponents of me joining was I 05:59.119 --> 06:02.089 kind of hit a glass ceiling of the 06:02.100 --> 06:05.950 career I was in and I , I decided to 06:05.959 --> 06:08.649 change careers and go into the military . 06:08.660 --> 06:12.230 And one of the big things was the , 06:12.239 --> 06:14.869 uh I knew it could help pay for my 06:14.880 --> 06:17.179 college . And so that was one of the 06:17.190 --> 06:20.290 biggest reasons um for me joining . And 06:20.299 --> 06:24.059 then once I decided that and took the 06:24.070 --> 06:27.170 as VP and saw the possibilities . I did , 06:27.179 --> 06:28.846 I did fairly well and I could 06:28.846 --> 06:31.790 essentially pick whatever jobs were 06:31.799 --> 06:34.750 available . I was ready to go . So , uh 06:34.760 --> 06:37.019 my recruiter and I worked together and 06:37.220 --> 06:40.679 picked what I thought seemed like a , a 06:40.690 --> 06:42.857 good choice . I , I had never heard of 06:42.857 --> 06:46.170 the one alpha three . I researched it . 06:46.179 --> 06:48.346 Uh I knew it was a flying job and that 06:48.346 --> 06:51.170 was kind of like a pristine type of uh 06:51.179 --> 06:54.410 situation and just for reference , uh , 06:54.420 --> 06:58.390 it was one alpha 5131 alpha three . 06:58.410 --> 07:00.577 What is a one alpha three career field 07:00.577 --> 07:02.632 title ? What is that ? So that's the 07:02.632 --> 07:05.339 airborne mission systems operator ? 07:05.350 --> 07:09.000 Perfect . Yeah . And so , yep , 07:09.200 --> 07:11.570 went through training , got to my unit . 07:11.579 --> 07:13.500 It was a long process . Lots of 07:13.510 --> 07:15.630 different trainings that we had to do 07:15.640 --> 07:19.549 and get qualified . Um , and on the 07:19.559 --> 07:23.100 active side , uh , even through 07:23.109 --> 07:25.869 training and I got to my unit which , 07:25.880 --> 07:28.779 uh , almost took a , probably a year or 07:28.790 --> 07:31.350 so . Um , so , so much , uh , 07:31.359 --> 07:35.220 camaraderie , uh , lifelong 07:35.230 --> 07:37.140 friends , people who I'm still in 07:37.149 --> 07:39.260 contact with . So I really liked that 07:39.260 --> 07:41.500 about the active side . I'm sure it's 07:41.510 --> 07:43.566 the same , uh , and the guards still 07:43.566 --> 07:46.179 getting used to it obviously . Um 07:47.350 --> 07:51.049 And so , uh I 07:51.059 --> 07:54.079 think on my , from my personal 07:54.089 --> 07:57.410 experience , I had a lot of uh I had a 07:57.420 --> 08:00.390 couple deployments and lots of Tdys . 08:01.190 --> 08:03.980 And so for me looking back on the 08:03.989 --> 08:06.079 active side , I , I gained a lot of 08:06.089 --> 08:09.410 experience in my career field and that 08:09.420 --> 08:12.359 one Alpha three , a lot of exposure 08:13.299 --> 08:16.519 and , you know , a lot of hard times 08:17.230 --> 08:19.920 being away from family , but also being 08:19.929 --> 08:23.290 with your unit . And so that you build 08:24.049 --> 08:27.540 this uh the hardships with , with your 08:27.549 --> 08:31.429 unit . And uh it , it all like 08:32.299 --> 08:34.355 kind of made the experience a little 08:34.355 --> 08:36.688 bit better if that makes sense . I mean , 08:36.688 --> 08:38.910 from what you're describing , it sounds 08:38.910 --> 08:41.021 like it really puts you in a place in 08:41.021 --> 08:43.243 your life where you were forced to grow 08:43.243 --> 08:45.799 and develop um given opportunities to 08:45.809 --> 08:47.920 learn things academically , obviously 08:47.920 --> 08:50.468 with a with formal training . But then 08:50.479 --> 08:52.818 you were applying that skill set within 08:52.828 --> 08:55.429 your unit on TD wise while deployed 08:55.499 --> 08:57.499 building friendships . So it really 08:57.499 --> 08:59.679 sounds like you know , being an active 08:59.698 --> 09:02.580 duty airmen , uh , life was dynamic and 09:02.590 --> 09:04.646 it sounds like for you it really hit 09:04.646 --> 09:07.299 home . Yeah . Yeah , I really did . Um , 09:08.760 --> 09:10.982 you know , there's always times where , 09:11.619 --> 09:14.200 uh , it was tough but , uh , the grass 09:14.210 --> 09:16.488 isn't always greener on the other side . 09:16.488 --> 09:18.869 But , uh , yeah , it was , it was a 09:19.210 --> 09:22.869 great experience for sure . Um , being 09:22.880 --> 09:25.900 on the active side and help open doors . 09:25.909 --> 09:28.080 Absolutely . I remember mccall . How 09:28.090 --> 09:30.201 about you ? Um You know , you kind of 09:30.201 --> 09:32.312 alluded to it a little bit again . Um 09:32.312 --> 09:34.534 some family legacy there with dad being 09:34.534 --> 09:37.219 in the uh the army . But uh ultimately , 09:37.229 --> 09:39.700 uh big question , what drove you into 09:39.710 --> 09:42.590 active duty Air Force . Um You know , 09:42.599 --> 09:44.377 you can give us a little bit of 09:44.377 --> 09:46.321 background on , on your experience 09:46.321 --> 09:48.432 within the career field as well . And 09:48.432 --> 09:50.543 then , you know , what were some high 09:50.543 --> 09:50.090 points and things that you really took 09:50.099 --> 09:52.099 away as a , as a positive from that 09:52.099 --> 09:56.059 experience ? Um The way I joined was 09:56.070 --> 09:58.869 actually kind of a funny story . I had 09:58.880 --> 10:00.991 this friend back in my senior year of 10:00.991 --> 10:04.070 high school who was all about joining 10:04.080 --> 10:07.210 the military and he was saying that we 10:07.219 --> 10:09.330 could do the buddy program and we can 10:09.330 --> 10:11.163 be together and we have at least 10:11.163 --> 10:13.386 somebody that will know together in the 10:13.386 --> 10:15.552 field or whatever . And I was like , I 10:15.552 --> 10:17.775 don't know , man , military that sounds 10:17.775 --> 10:19.886 kinda , you know , strict and rigid , 10:19.886 --> 10:22.108 you know , I wanna do something I wanna 10:22.108 --> 10:24.108 be free . But he had taught me into 10:24.108 --> 10:26.510 doing the A VB as in high school and 10:26.520 --> 10:28.520 you know , we we both scored pretty 10:28.520 --> 10:30.960 good on it . And then yeah , like I 10:30.969 --> 10:33.191 said , my , my dad found out about it . 10:33.191 --> 10:35.469 So he was like , you know , you should , 10:35.469 --> 10:37.691 you should move forward with that . And 10:37.691 --> 10:37.520 I was still like , I don't know , my 10:37.530 --> 10:39.641 buddy was like , yeah , man , like we 10:39.641 --> 10:41.641 can join together , we can , he was 10:41.641 --> 10:43.863 telling me all the benefits with like , 10:43.863 --> 10:43.640 like Jerry that mentioned uh school 10:43.650 --> 10:45.539 paying for school and medical and 10:45.539 --> 10:47.706 everything . I was like , I guess I'll 10:47.706 --> 10:49.928 go here out the recruiter , see what he 10:49.928 --> 10:52.150 got to say , you know , he , he sold me 10:52.150 --> 10:54.372 on a dream , you know , telling me it's 10:54.372 --> 10:56.594 gonna change my life and stuff . So I I 10:56.594 --> 10:58.761 signed the contract and stuff . I came 10:58.761 --> 11:01.094 back to school . I was like , hey buddy , 11:01.094 --> 11:00.349 I signed up , you talked to the 11:00.359 --> 11:02.581 recruiter ? Yeah , he was like , no , I 11:02.581 --> 11:06.000 was like , huh ? Yeah . Yeah , I was 11:06.010 --> 11:08.121 like , wait , are we going to do this 11:08.121 --> 11:10.121 together ? He was like , no man , I 11:10.121 --> 11:12.454 think I'm gonna back out of that . Yeah , 11:12.454 --> 11:14.621 that's a similar story . You hear that 11:14.621 --> 11:16.954 a lot of times , you know , high school , 11:16.954 --> 11:19.177 hey , let's do it together . And uh 50% 11:19.177 --> 11:21.399 of that equation works out . You're the 11:21.399 --> 11:25.369 50% I'm the 50% you know , I still talk 11:25.380 --> 11:27.602 about it to this day . I'm like , man , 11:27.602 --> 11:29.820 like you , you know , like you , like 11:29.830 --> 11:31.997 you changed my life , bro . Like I , I 11:31.997 --> 11:33.774 had no intention of joining the 11:33.774 --> 11:35.830 military and you literally talked me 11:35.830 --> 11:37.941 into it and then you didn't go . So , 11:37.941 --> 11:40.052 yeah , but uh , after I got the job , 11:40.052 --> 11:43.770 it became a one off of three . same 11:43.780 --> 11:45.891 with Jared , it , it took a long time 11:45.891 --> 11:48.250 to get to my actual unit . It was about 11:48.260 --> 11:50.482 a year of training cause I , I enlisted 11:50.482 --> 11:52.859 in November of 2017 . I didn't end up 11:52.869 --> 11:56.270 getting to my unit till December of 11:56.280 --> 12:00.109 2018 . You know , it , it was a 12:00.119 --> 12:01.897 lot of training . Yeah , that's 12:01.897 --> 12:04.008 substantial . Yeah . You know , and , 12:04.008 --> 12:06.008 and our training involves flying to 12:06.008 --> 12:08.119 like a whole , like a whole different 12:08.119 --> 12:10.286 state before we get to the state where 12:10.286 --> 12:12.452 our unit is the station , we had to go 12:12.452 --> 12:14.341 to Washington State to go through 12:14.341 --> 12:16.563 survival training , hiking in mountains 12:16.563 --> 12:18.841 and stuff and getting stuff in lockers . 12:19.020 --> 12:21.179 It , it was a lot just to get to that 12:21.190 --> 12:23.349 to that point . But I did end up 12:23.359 --> 12:25.581 getting there and , and it , you know , 12:25.581 --> 12:27.637 going through all that to get to the 12:27.637 --> 12:29.869 unit . It really instilled like a sense 12:29.880 --> 12:32.080 of confidence in me , you know , like 12:32.359 --> 12:34.750 knowing that I could go through , you 12:34.760 --> 12:37.000 know , rigorous , you know , just 12:37.010 --> 12:40.520 audacious training and succeed , you 12:40.530 --> 12:42.419 know , and come out a little more 12:42.419 --> 12:44.586 better equipped for life . It was , it 12:44.586 --> 12:46.808 was very gratifying just to get there . 12:46.808 --> 12:49.141 So you learned a lot about yourself and , 12:49.141 --> 12:51.320 and maybe an area of yourself that you 12:51.330 --> 12:53.820 hadn't previously explored because you 12:53.830 --> 12:56.460 were being pushed . Yeah , definitely . 12:56.479 --> 12:58.659 I , I was not the kind of person to 12:58.669 --> 13:00.836 push myself like that in high school . 13:00.836 --> 13:02.891 I will admit that , you know , and , 13:03.150 --> 13:05.206 you know , some instances in the Air 13:05.206 --> 13:07.261 Force , I literally was being pushed 13:07.261 --> 13:09.372 like , you know , with my hands being 13:09.372 --> 13:12.090 pushed around figuratively and 13:12.460 --> 13:16.179 literally , it was quite an experience 13:16.309 --> 13:19.500 that's for sure . Uh Afterwards getting 13:19.510 --> 13:22.530 to the unit , um , this is where me and 13:22.539 --> 13:24.761 Jared experience differ differ a little 13:24.761 --> 13:26.761 bit . I never deployed . I actually 13:26.761 --> 13:28.706 never TDY either . I was more of a 13:28.706 --> 13:32.020 homebody really . But , um , I still 13:32.030 --> 13:34.409 did fly though a lot and I traveled 13:34.419 --> 13:36.530 places , we just never landed there , 13:37.580 --> 13:39.636 you know , we would always come back 13:39.859 --> 13:42.150 round trip , round trip , you know , 13:42.159 --> 13:45.130 you know , but it , I , I still got 13:45.140 --> 13:47.429 that feeling of , you know , being like 13:47.440 --> 13:50.080 a family and teamwork , you know , just 13:50.090 --> 13:52.146 spending all those long hours on the 13:52.146 --> 13:54.599 plane , working as a team as a unit to 13:54.609 --> 13:56.739 complete the mission , you know , be 13:56.750 --> 13:59.169 that as , you know , getting a complete 13:59.179 --> 14:01.849 picture of the area or , you know , 14:01.859 --> 14:04.760 flying over the Super Bowl to , you 14:04.770 --> 14:07.849 know , prevent possible terrorist 14:07.859 --> 14:10.599 attacks and stuff like that . Um It was 14:10.609 --> 14:12.665 some very interesting good times and 14:13.109 --> 14:15.289 I've made some lifelong friends I will 14:15.299 --> 14:17.521 never forget about and , and , and good 14:17.521 --> 14:19.989 memories , you know , it's amazing . Uh , 14:20.000 --> 14:22.056 you know , you , you're two separate 14:22.056 --> 14:24.419 individuals . I grew up in in different 14:24.429 --> 14:26.485 parts of the country , both made the 14:26.485 --> 14:28.596 same decision to join the active duty 14:28.596 --> 14:30.485 Air Force , ultimately , the same 14:30.485 --> 14:32.485 career field , the , uh , one Alpha 14:32.485 --> 14:35.510 three . And then your stories converge , 14:35.520 --> 14:37.464 you know , it sounds like growth , 14:37.469 --> 14:40.549 development , um , you know , coming to 14:40.559 --> 14:42.710 be , you know , finding yourselves 14:42.719 --> 14:44.960 friendships , you know , being part of 14:44.969 --> 14:46.913 a family . So I , I think that's , 14:46.913 --> 14:49.247 that's kind of an interesting , uh , um , 14:49.247 --> 14:51.525 uh connection there despite , you know , 14:51.525 --> 14:53.136 coming from , from different 14:53.136 --> 14:55.580 backgrounds . Um , so obviously you're , 14:55.590 --> 14:58.000 you're here now at the eastern air 14:58.010 --> 15:00.232 defense sector . Uh Both members of the 15:00.232 --> 15:02.950 2 24th air defense squadron , actually 15:03.820 --> 15:05.653 air defense squadron and support 15:05.653 --> 15:07.598 squadron . I'm sorry , I'm wrong . 15:07.598 --> 15:09.542 That's right . Yeah . A and mccall 15:09.542 --> 15:11.709 recently , uh , uh , transitioned over 15:11.709 --> 15:14.969 into a new role . So , um , Aman mccall , 15:14.979 --> 15:18.010 tell me , uh , what , what , um , what 15:18.020 --> 15:20.242 helped you to make the decision or what 15:20.242 --> 15:22.609 drove the decision to transition from 15:22.619 --> 15:25.479 active duty Air Force into the Air 15:25.489 --> 15:27.545 National Guard , specifically in the 15:27.545 --> 15:29.767 State of New York . And then ultimately 15:29.767 --> 15:32.070 here at the Eastern air defense sector , 15:32.080 --> 15:35.150 um , important to state , you are what 15:35.159 --> 15:37.500 we call an A GR , an active guard 15:37.510 --> 15:40.630 reservist , which is very similar , uh , 15:40.640 --> 15:42.862 if not , you know , exactly the same in 15:42.862 --> 15:44.862 certain ways , uh to an active duty 15:44.862 --> 15:47.084 airman . So what drove that decision to 15:47.084 --> 15:49.251 go from active duty , um , to the A GR 15:49.251 --> 15:52.270 program in the air Guard ? Yeah . So , 15:52.739 --> 15:56.320 um , there , there was somebody who 15:56.330 --> 15:58.679 came here before me , his name is , uh , 15:58.690 --> 16:02.059 Michael Little and it was probably like 16:02.380 --> 16:05.820 a year and a half before my six year 16:05.830 --> 16:08.489 contract was to expire . So I wasn't 16:08.500 --> 16:10.729 really thinking about where I was gonna 16:10.739 --> 16:13.179 go . I mean , in my head I was gonna 16:13.349 --> 16:16.619 extend for a year or two at Tinker . 16:16.630 --> 16:19.489 Maybe , you know , finish up my school 16:19.500 --> 16:22.219 work , stuff like that . And , um , 16:22.320 --> 16:24.690 then this thing called the , uh , what 16:24.700 --> 16:28.520 was it ? The funding of all Play Cable 16:28.530 --> 16:32.270 Laws ? Yeah . There we go . 16:34.169 --> 16:36.058 Uh , yeah , that changed a lot of 16:36.058 --> 16:38.750 things . Um , you know , they , they 16:38.760 --> 16:40.982 said it was almost kind of like the end 16:40.982 --> 16:43.038 of the world I'd admitted to it . It 16:43.038 --> 16:45.390 was like the apocalypse of awa and 16:45.400 --> 16:48.539 enlisted within that . Like they would 16:48.549 --> 16:50.716 round us all up together and be like , 16:50.716 --> 16:53.260 like y'all need to go look for jobs now . 16:53.270 --> 16:55.159 Cross train into something else . 16:55.159 --> 16:58.090 Possibly , either that or maybe some of 16:58.099 --> 17:02.020 y'all can get voluntary early separated . 17:02.219 --> 17:05.109 Yeah , it was , it was crazy . And , um , 17:05.510 --> 17:08.150 so , you know , that , that obviously 17:08.160 --> 17:10.160 put me on the path to looking for a 17:10.160 --> 17:12.271 different opportunities . Yeah . No , 17:12.271 --> 17:14.104 absolutely . And because of that 17:14.104 --> 17:16.271 connection that you had with , uh , is 17:16.271 --> 17:18.604 it sergeant or airman ? Little seen him ? 17:18.859 --> 17:21.560 I think it's about to be sergeant any 17:21.770 --> 17:23.943 day now . Yeah . So because of that , 17:23.953 --> 17:25.842 that connection that you had from 17:25.842 --> 17:27.897 active duty , uh , this other avenue 17:27.897 --> 17:30.064 that , you know , once you were thrust 17:30.064 --> 17:32.064 into this kind of unknown situation 17:32.064 --> 17:34.120 with what's my future look like ? Uh 17:34.120 --> 17:36.342 You had another opportunity that , that 17:36.342 --> 17:38.509 you could explore which ultimately you 17:38.509 --> 17:42.034 did . So , um , since becoming an A gr 17:42.043 --> 17:44.654 an active guard reservist , um , what 17:44.663 --> 17:46.913 has your experience been compared to 17:46.923 --> 17:50.839 active duty ? Um , since coming to a gr 17:51.569 --> 17:55.119 it has been different , I would say . 17:55.130 --> 17:58.239 Um , here , everything seems to be a 17:58.250 --> 18:02.060 little more flexible versus active 18:02.069 --> 18:05.810 duty . Um , I mean , you know , I came 18:05.819 --> 18:08.680 here initially as a one Charlie five 18:08.689 --> 18:12.670 working at the A DS and I ended up 18:12.680 --> 18:14.920 as of today being part of , you know , 18:15.180 --> 18:17.709 the , the 224 support quadrant , right ? 18:17.719 --> 18:19.949 As a one delta seven , you know , I 18:19.959 --> 18:22.609 could never imagine switching career 18:22.619 --> 18:25.310 fields . Within a span of two months , 18:25.319 --> 18:28.430 you literally got hired as an A Gr one 18:28.439 --> 18:31.510 Charlie five , which is our , our uh um 18:32.290 --> 18:35.449 operators . And within two months as a 18:35.459 --> 18:38.239 new A Gr we're , we're able to uh 18:38.260 --> 18:40.489 interview for a one Delta seven , a 18:40.500 --> 18:43.540 cyber position got picked up and now 18:43.550 --> 18:45.606 you're going through that transition 18:45.606 --> 18:48.560 that changed . Yeah , and he's smiling 18:48.569 --> 18:51.410 so , you know , that a positive change , 18:51.420 --> 18:53.319 a positive change . Yeah , 18:55.209 --> 18:57.839 absolutely . Uh Airman Hornier . So , 18:57.849 --> 18:59.793 same , same question . So you were 18:59.793 --> 19:01.910 active duty . Sounds like a very 19:01.920 --> 19:04.260 positive experience again , in terms of 19:04.270 --> 19:06.437 uh what you've gone through memories , 19:06.437 --> 19:08.326 you've made relationships , you , 19:08.326 --> 19:10.492 you've established , um what helped to 19:10.492 --> 19:12.603 drive the decision I'm guessing based 19:12.603 --> 19:14.714 on your previous response . Uh when , 19:14.714 --> 19:16.937 er mccall is talking , was it a similar 19:16.937 --> 19:19.369 rationale in terms of the change with 19:19.380 --> 19:22.430 uh within your career field . Y yes , 19:22.439 --> 19:25.650 there's no doubt , some similarities um 19:26.099 --> 19:29.689 and some small differences uh 19:29.939 --> 19:31.930 definitely looking back great 19:31.939 --> 19:34.459 experiences at the same time , a lot of 19:34.469 --> 19:38.089 them was a lot of adversity and uh 19:38.359 --> 19:41.229 things that I didn't necessarily want 19:41.239 --> 19:45.020 to do . And um I 19:45.030 --> 19:47.030 think on the active side , you have 19:47.030 --> 19:49.859 that extra , extra pressure uh to 19:50.869 --> 19:54.140 do your duty . Um For instance , on my 19:54.150 --> 19:57.189 second deployment , I , I didn't 19:57.199 --> 19:59.780 necessarily want to go on that one . It 19:59.790 --> 20:03.300 was tough on uh my relationship and , 20:03.310 --> 20:06.280 and being gone again and that one was a 20:06.290 --> 20:08.290 six month deployment . And uh I had 20:08.290 --> 20:12.239 just been on the four month and so long 20:12.250 --> 20:15.349 story short , but it , you have that 20:15.359 --> 20:17.415 extra pressure to do things that you 20:17.415 --> 20:19.526 don't necessarily want to do and that 20:19.526 --> 20:21.692 happens everywhere and which is fine . 20:21.692 --> 20:25.420 And um so on my first deployment though , 20:25.430 --> 20:28.250 I went out to the desert and I actually 20:28.260 --> 20:30.760 got to meet a lot of the one Charlie 20:30.770 --> 20:33.319 five community out there and we had 20:33.329 --> 20:36.290 like a friendly competition , uh top 20:36.300 --> 20:39.109 scope competition and I got to 20:39.119 --> 20:41.430 participate in that and got second 20:42.150 --> 20:45.619 and uh I was like , this is awesome . I 20:45.630 --> 20:48.500 got to sit on the floor and I did , uh 20:49.369 --> 20:52.229 I think like , I , I sat on like one of 20:52.239 --> 20:55.510 their normal days . Uh and 20:56.239 --> 20:59.719 I was like , wow , I wanna do this uh 20:59.729 --> 21:01.840 because you're essentially doing what 21:01.840 --> 21:04.920 I'm doing but on the ground and , uh , 21:05.250 --> 21:07.361 I mean , anyone that's been on an , a 21:07.361 --> 21:10.239 wax like it's , you know , it's , it's 21:10.250 --> 21:13.810 an older jet and long hours for 21:13.819 --> 21:15.986 sure . Of course , you have long hours 21:15.986 --> 21:18.199 could be anywhere but being on a jet 21:18.209 --> 21:21.910 for 16 hours it's , uh , it , 21:22.489 --> 21:25.349 it , it gets on you and , uh , it takes 21:25.500 --> 21:28.660 its toll for sure . And so , yeah , it 21:28.670 --> 21:32.410 gets musty . The bathroom is a mess . 21:33.900 --> 21:37.550 So I was like , yeah , how do I do this ? 21:37.560 --> 21:39.282 I wanna do this . I was really 21:39.282 --> 21:41.560 motivated to become a one Charlie five . 21:41.560 --> 21:43.560 They go to Aviano like there was so 21:43.560 --> 21:46.380 many benefits to my mind and I was like , 21:46.390 --> 21:49.489 that's my dream . And so I came back 21:49.500 --> 21:53.439 and I knew my uh cross training window 21:53.449 --> 21:56.180 was coming up and I was like , I would 21:56.189 --> 21:58.411 like to cross train to one Charlie five 21:59.069 --> 22:00.910 and again , kind of with those 22:00.920 --> 22:03.260 adversity . Uh Long story short , it 22:03.270 --> 22:05.437 was a , it was basically a hard , no , 22:05.437 --> 22:07.930 unfortunately , I couldn't uh they just 22:07.939 --> 22:10.130 weren't allowing one alpha threes to 22:10.140 --> 22:12.589 cross train into uh into the one 22:12.599 --> 22:14.599 trolley five on active side at that 22:14.599 --> 22:18.069 time . And uh so I kind of had to , 22:18.869 --> 22:22.510 you know , focus on new goals . And so 22:22.770 --> 22:25.510 long later down the road deployed again , 22:25.520 --> 22:28.369 came back , uh divestment was coming . 22:28.380 --> 22:30.510 I thought I , again , I was gonna uh 22:30.520 --> 22:34.089 extend and try to finish school . And 22:34.099 --> 22:37.119 then uh I came back from that 22:37.130 --> 22:40.050 deployment and ran into Mike Little . 22:41.540 --> 22:43.540 There's a common denominator . It's 22:43.540 --> 22:45.707 like , yeah , I'm going , I'm going to 22:45.707 --> 22:47.707 eat , we gotta get him a recruiting 22:47.707 --> 22:49.939 ribbon that he definitely deserves . 22:52.680 --> 22:55.420 And , uh , he's like , yeah , I'm going 22:55.430 --> 22:57.541 to E ES and , uh , I'm gonna be a one 22:57.541 --> 22:59.597 Charlie five and I was like , wait a 22:59.597 --> 23:01.763 minute , you're gonna be a one Charlie 23:01.763 --> 23:03.930 five . And , uh , that's what I wanted 23:03.930 --> 23:05.763 to do . And I was like , so that 23:05.763 --> 23:07.839 started coming back into as a 23:07.849 --> 23:10.199 possibility and I was like , all right . 23:10.209 --> 23:13.780 Well , I'm , my extension is coming up 23:13.790 --> 23:16.949 like the big air force can't prevent me 23:16.959 --> 23:19.829 from getting out and going into the A 23:19.839 --> 23:22.349 gr position . So that was kind of my , 23:23.040 --> 23:27.020 my road . Uh And with other , 23:27.030 --> 23:29.197 the other benefits were like , I'm , I 23:29.197 --> 23:31.839 love the northeast . I'm like , I lived 23:31.849 --> 23:33.738 in Maine . I wanted to be on that 23:33.738 --> 23:35.960 northeast side of things and I , like , 23:35.960 --> 23:38.182 I never thought I was gonna move to New 23:38.182 --> 23:40.460 York . I'm like , I'm not a New Yorker , 23:41.099 --> 23:43.290 but here I am and I , I love it . 23:43.569 --> 23:46.239 That's great . That's , that's a great 23:46.250 --> 23:48.361 transition too . So now you're here , 23:48.361 --> 23:50.528 you're both here , Eastern air defense 23:50.528 --> 23:52.583 sector , uh which is manned by the 2 23:52.583 --> 23:54.969 24th air defense group . You're here in 23:54.979 --> 23:58.959 Rome , New York . Um What would you say 23:58.969 --> 24:01.180 in terms of just the , the geographic 24:01.189 --> 24:03.540 locale and the things available here 24:03.699 --> 24:06.140 are some of your , your favorite things 24:06.150 --> 24:08.317 about the area . What do you , what do 24:08.317 --> 24:10.206 you like to do around here what's 24:10.206 --> 24:12.372 available , uh , for , and you're both 24:12.372 --> 24:12.030 young so , you know , what might be 24:12.040 --> 24:14.160 appealing to somebody thinking about 24:14.170 --> 24:17.310 making that decision . There's a lot of 24:17.319 --> 24:20.150 good Italian pizza around the area 24:22.189 --> 24:26.119 well played . Um , as far 24:26.130 --> 24:28.019 as the geographic area . I mean , 24:28.020 --> 24:30.131 there's a lot of activities you could 24:30.131 --> 24:32.076 do , um , you know , anything from 24:32.076 --> 24:35.489 snowing , uh , snowboarding to sledding . 24:35.500 --> 24:38.729 Um , um , there's a , just the , uh , 24:38.739 --> 24:40.750 the gym area here , the , uh , the 24:40.760 --> 24:42.920 Coliseum . It's so beautiful . You 24:42.930 --> 24:45.263 gotta see it to believe it , especially , 24:45.263 --> 24:47.486 you know , and , and , and you guys are 24:47.486 --> 24:49.708 both active duty , so you had access to 24:49.708 --> 24:51.597 a , a fitness facility , but this 24:51.597 --> 24:53.819 fitness facility is like second to none 24:53.819 --> 24:55.819 of the water out of the water . The 24:55.819 --> 24:57.986 only other one that I saw nicer was in 24:57.986 --> 25:00.041 Vegas and like the , the ones that , 25:00.041 --> 25:03.560 that Vegas , uh , gym is like , they 25:03.569 --> 25:06.479 had a lot of funding , obviously hard 25:06.489 --> 25:08.560 to compete with Vegas , but a close 25:08.569 --> 25:12.060 second . Yeah . Yeah , man . Uh , it's 25:12.069 --> 25:14.236 a , it's a really nice area . I mean , 25:14.236 --> 25:16.291 the people here seem friendlier than 25:16.291 --> 25:19.689 Oklahoma too . Honestly . Um , the 25:19.699 --> 25:21.810 weather , if you like the cold , this 25:21.810 --> 25:23.977 is it , you know . Yeah . And we can , 25:23.977 --> 25:26.199 we can , uh , verify that here . We are 25:26.199 --> 25:29.400 on April 4th with snow . So even in the 25:29.410 --> 25:31.354 springtime sometimes it looks like 25:31.354 --> 25:33.869 winter . Yeah , I think additionally , 25:33.880 --> 25:36.800 like , you know , we , we actually hang 25:36.810 --> 25:40.439 out outside of work and we have other 25:40.449 --> 25:43.319 people from our old unit actually . And 25:43.569 --> 25:45.989 there's a lot of Tinker community here . 25:46.000 --> 25:49.920 Um , but like , hanging out with 25:49.930 --> 25:52.640 friends and family is definitely , I 25:52.650 --> 25:55.239 think something we both like doing and , 25:55.979 --> 25:58.319 uh , there's , you know , there's 25:58.329 --> 26:01.800 obviously places to go around here to 26:01.810 --> 26:04.099 actually , to do things . Uh , but , 26:04.479 --> 26:06.701 you know , even just going over to each 26:06.701 --> 26:09.380 other's houses and watching the game or 26:09.390 --> 26:13.030 having a Christmas dinner or whatever . 26:14.219 --> 26:17.170 So , that same sense of , of family and 26:17.180 --> 26:19.180 community that you both experienced 26:19.180 --> 26:21.291 active duty sounds like it's , it's , 26:21.291 --> 26:23.719 it's , it's similar , if not the same 26:23.729 --> 26:25.729 here in the guard for you as well . 26:26.000 --> 26:29.699 Absolutely . So , uh again , if I 26:29.709 --> 26:32.410 circle back to the whole A GR program , 26:32.420 --> 26:35.209 active guard reserve , uh pay benefits 26:35.219 --> 26:38.290 exactly the same as as active duty . Um 26:38.300 --> 26:41.209 Obviously , biggest diff difference is , 26:41.219 --> 26:43.739 is uh in the A GR program , you can , 26:43.750 --> 26:46.630 if you choose uh spend an entire career 26:46.640 --> 26:48.500 in a single unit , um There's 26:48.510 --> 26:50.979 opportunities to advance , to grow , to 26:51.079 --> 26:53.619 uh go TDY to deploy things , things 26:53.630 --> 26:56.400 such as that . So , um but I did hear , 26:56.410 --> 26:58.521 I think it was uh Airman mccall , you 26:58.521 --> 27:00.859 said that flexibility that , that kind 27:00.869 --> 27:04.219 of family nature . Uh um you know , 27:04.300 --> 27:06.467 Airman Hornick or you said some of the 27:06.467 --> 27:08.300 structural pre pressures or , or 27:08.300 --> 27:10.300 tension uh that you might have felt 27:10.300 --> 27:12.650 active duty don't really seem to be the 27:12.660 --> 27:16.660 same in an air guard , a GR scenario . 27:16.670 --> 27:20.500 So all that being said um for that 27:20.510 --> 27:22.780 active duty airmen out there uh 27:22.790 --> 27:26.540 considering a change . Um What , what 27:26.550 --> 27:28.979 guidance , uh what advice would you 27:28.989 --> 27:32.060 give to them about joining a unit like 27:32.069 --> 27:34.236 the Eastern air defense sector as an A 27:34.236 --> 27:36.236 GR , and we'll start with uh Airman 27:36.236 --> 27:39.890 Hornecker , I think 27:39.900 --> 27:43.810 um I had a very 27:43.819 --> 27:47.780 smooth transition into the guard 27:47.790 --> 27:51.079 unit and I think that's because I , 27:52.380 --> 27:54.491 you know , obviously it helped having 27:54.491 --> 27:57.839 someone here to communicate with and if 27:57.849 --> 28:00.959 you are interested , maybe making 28:00.969 --> 28:04.699 those , uh you know , making those 28:04.709 --> 28:06.820 meetings happen or reaching out and , 28:06.820 --> 28:09.579 and finding a person who's willing to 28:10.689 --> 28:13.280 make that bridge happen easily and , 28:13.290 --> 28:16.079 and communicate , uh like , what's it 28:16.089 --> 28:18.239 like to be here ? And it's that , you 28:18.250 --> 28:20.250 know , whatever doubts you might be 28:20.250 --> 28:23.510 having , uh you know , make the 28:23.520 --> 28:26.589 connection and ask the questions that 28:26.599 --> 28:29.099 you're having doubts about perhaps . Um 28:29.109 --> 28:33.020 And then if , if it is something that 28:33.030 --> 28:36.339 you're interested in , uh just start 28:36.349 --> 28:39.569 making those steps early . And 28:40.280 --> 28:43.060 because for me , it was , it was very 28:43.069 --> 28:46.209 smooth like other than like big Air 28:46.219 --> 28:49.260 Force , uh how you're gonna move and 28:49.270 --> 28:52.000 whatnot that , that might , you're 28:52.010 --> 28:54.343 gonna have those kinds of complications . 28:54.343 --> 28:57.949 But uh yeah , if I 28:57.959 --> 29:00.670 think just like making those , that 29:00.680 --> 29:03.510 network and reaching out and 29:04.670 --> 29:06.837 figuring out if this is something that 29:06.837 --> 29:08.837 you're interested in doing , I love 29:08.837 --> 29:11.059 that because , uh you know , networking 29:11.059 --> 29:13.281 uh in or outside the military , uh very 29:13.281 --> 29:15.392 important . Uh That's how you get con 29:15.392 --> 29:18.430 con uh context around a situation , a 29:18.439 --> 29:21.290 work environmental culture . Um And 29:21.300 --> 29:23.578 that's how you build relationships too . 29:23.578 --> 29:25.578 So I think that's , that's terrific 29:25.578 --> 29:27.800 advice . Um Airman mccall , what , what 29:27.800 --> 29:29.856 advice would you give to that active 29:29.856 --> 29:31.911 duty airmen thinking about uh coming 29:31.911 --> 29:33.800 over to the , to the air garden , 29:33.800 --> 29:35.967 hopefully specifically the Eastern air 29:35.967 --> 29:37.744 defense sector . I just want to 29:37.744 --> 29:39.800 piggyback off what Jarrett said . Um 29:39.800 --> 29:42.599 really finding somebody out here , be 29:42.609 --> 29:46.329 it a friend or a sponsor , it 29:46.349 --> 29:48.699 really makes all the difference cause , 29:48.709 --> 29:50.876 you know , jumping from active duty to 29:50.876 --> 29:52.876 a gr it's kinda , it's like a whole 29:52.876 --> 29:55.042 different world and you know , there's 29:55.042 --> 29:57.229 not a lot of information out there as 29:57.239 --> 29:59.128 far as , you know , like how they 29:59.128 --> 30:02.060 operate or the differences . My sponsor 30:02.069 --> 30:04.069 filled me in on so much information 30:04.089 --> 30:07.040 because even even separated from active 30:07.050 --> 30:09.479 duty going through taps , you know , 30:09.489 --> 30:11.739 they don't really acknowledge a gr to 30:11.750 --> 30:13.750 them . You're just going out to the 30:13.750 --> 30:15.972 street , you're separating . Yeah , you 30:15.972 --> 30:18.306 don't , you don't , you know , and they , 30:18.306 --> 30:20.583 they make you go through all the plans , 30:20.583 --> 30:22.639 the plans and stuff and in some ways 30:22.639 --> 30:24.806 they almost convinced me that I wasn't 30:24.806 --> 30:27.028 really going a gr is there such a thing 30:27.030 --> 30:29.459 as nobody seems to know what I'm 30:29.479 --> 30:33.329 talking about ? So , yeah , just really 30:33.339 --> 30:35.561 just finding somebody out here that can 30:35.561 --> 30:37.783 really give you information will make a 30:37.783 --> 30:40.061 big difference . Excellent . Excellent . 30:40.061 --> 30:42.172 So , um I don't think I'm overstating 30:42.172 --> 30:44.395 it . Both of you are happy to have made 30:44.395 --> 30:46.670 the move . Most definitely not looking 30:46.680 --> 30:49.800 back . No , no , I think it , if 30:49.810 --> 30:53.699 anything it like has given us more , 30:54.069 --> 30:56.250 more open doors , like I was saying 30:56.260 --> 30:58.729 earlier , you know , like I feel like 30:59.469 --> 31:02.969 if I wanted to make a change , it could 31:02.979 --> 31:05.329 happen easier . And you know , I 31:05.359 --> 31:07.526 remember mccall your perfect example , 31:07.526 --> 31:09.748 you made two changes within a matter of 31:09.748 --> 31:11.859 months after leaving active duty . So 31:11.859 --> 31:14.469 that speaks very , very uh uh true to , 31:14.479 --> 31:17.930 to that statement . So , um so both 31:17.939 --> 31:20.050 recommend the A GR program which does 31:20.050 --> 31:22.770 exist for , for the record um to those 31:22.780 --> 31:25.810 active duty airmen considering , yeah , 31:25.819 --> 31:28.219 100% like it's , we have the same 31:28.229 --> 31:31.290 benefits and , and everything's better 31:31.300 --> 31:34.609 like , like , I don't see why 31:35.430 --> 31:37.780 it's like they , they even said it's 31:37.790 --> 31:40.250 like a hidden secret , like , and i it 31:40.260 --> 31:42.660 feels like that and we've heard that 31:42.670 --> 31:44.726 before . You always hear that , that 31:44.726 --> 31:47.300 similar story from active duty , former 31:47.310 --> 31:49.421 active duty members coming into the A 31:49.421 --> 31:51.643 GR program that , yeah , we never heard 31:51.643 --> 31:53.866 of that might have heard of the guard , 31:53.866 --> 31:55.921 the air guard . But uh A GR was , is 31:55.921 --> 31:58.032 really one of those things that's not 31:58.032 --> 31:59.977 well understood uh at the , at the 31:59.977 --> 32:02.088 active duty level . So well with that 32:02.088 --> 32:04.310 gentlemen , what a great conversation . 32:04.310 --> 32:06.829 And uh let me just say both of you uh 32:06.839 --> 32:08.950 were two great pickups for the unit , 32:08.950 --> 32:11.439 rising stars , obviously , uh value 32:11.449 --> 32:13.939 added . Um We appreciate you for , for 32:13.949 --> 32:16.005 what you're doing here at the unit . 32:16.005 --> 32:18.227 And uh , and I appreciate you uh coming 32:18.227 --> 32:20.338 in today to tell that story because I 32:20.338 --> 32:22.338 think it's an important story and I 32:22.338 --> 32:24.449 think it's one that will connect with 32:24.449 --> 32:26.782 other individuals out there active duty , 32:26.782 --> 32:28.949 maybe even civilians who are listening 32:28.949 --> 32:31.116 to this um that uh might help spark an 32:31.116 --> 32:32.949 interest in the air Guard and uh 32:32.949 --> 32:35.171 specifically at the Eastern air defense 32:35.171 --> 32:37.338 sector . So thank you both for joining 32:37.338 --> 32:39.393 us today and thanks for sharing your 32:39.393 --> 32:39.310 stories . It was a pleasure . It was a 32:39.319 --> 32:40.109 pleasure . Thank you .