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This is a 1575 A Fn Sasao

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special feature . Get out your notepads ,

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fire up your smart devices and get

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ready to dive into a wealth of

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financial knowledge . It's time

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for money Mondays . Show

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me the money , show me the money ,

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show me the money . Hello

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CF DJ Big Sky here A K A petty

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officer , Riley mcdowell and I am

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sitting down in studio once again with

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Mr Orca Mr Nor Okada . He's the

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accredited financial counselor over at

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the Fleet and Family Support Center

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here in Saso . He is uh one of our

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faves in the area and uh we're sitting

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down to talk about building wealth ,

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generational wealth . That's a buzzword ,

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generational wealth . Yeah . You know ,

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teach your kids right . That's right .

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How we doing today ? I'm doing all

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right . How about yourself ? I'm doing

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very well . I can't complain . So to uh

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jump things off without further ado uh

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I thought we'd talk about , you know ,

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some beginner's guide to securing your

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financial future . Um And for starters ,

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I want to talk about net worth . So I

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know a lot of people like to look at

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celebrities , net worth . How much is

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this person worth . But net worth can

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also be very important for you to know

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about your own finances . How can

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somebody calculate their own net worth ?

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And why is that so significant to know ?

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Ok , so I think net worth is the , is

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the beginning , right ? So basically ,

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um , everybody thinks that the more

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they make the wealthier they get and

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that's not a true value , a measure of

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wealth . The true value , wealth is net

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worth . It's difference between assets ,

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stuff that appreciates for you , uh ,

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makes money for you and the liability

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things that you owe . So like a good

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example would be if you have a mortgage

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on a house , right ? The equity in the

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house is your asset and the , the , the

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mortgage that the money that you owe

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the bank is your liability . So why is

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it important ? I'm a big believer that

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you should calculate your net worth at

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least once a year , right ? Because

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it's a starting point . It's ac is my

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net worth going up , right ? Um , or is

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it going down ? So what am I doing ? So

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if you have a lot of debts as you pay

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your debts down , your net worth will

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increase . It's just a snapshot in time .

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If you ever took a business class or

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something called a balance sheet or

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whatever , it's a snapshot in time that

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shows you where you're at net worth .

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Yeah , something that , uh , I need to

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start calculating on a more regular

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basis because if you got any kind of

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financial goals , this is a good way to

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track those goals . Correct . Yeah ,

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definitely . Um And so we talked a

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little bit about off the air about this ,

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right ? A lot of folks don't save

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enough because they don't tie their

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goal source to , to savings and then

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they also , they don't make them smart

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goals , like specific measurable ,

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actionable , realistic or timely ,

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right ? Um They just say uh I want to

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do this . So I , I made a comparison .

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So if you don't know , and we talked

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about the network thing , if you don't

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know if you think you're in California

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and you want to drive to , let's say

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Washington State , but you're really in

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Colorado , you're not gonna get there ,

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you're gonna be a roundabout kind of

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way . It's the same thing . You have to

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know a starting point and net worth is

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your starting point . It's OK to start

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off in Colorado , isn't it ? Yeah ,

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it's OK to start in Colorado if you're

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really in Colorado , right ? You know

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what I mean ? Pacific , northwest of

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the house . But you gotta know where

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you're at and a lot of folks don't know

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where they're at and that's a problem .

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Yeah . So what would you suggest ? Uh

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people make kind of realistic financial

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goals ? Five years out , 15 years out

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both . What does that usually look like ?

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So it all depends . Well , it depends

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on the time horizon . So I have , I

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have an acronym I use is called sly um ,

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safety liquidity in the yield . It

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means so my thing is if I need it to be

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safe , my money to be safe and I need

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to be liquid just means a fancy word

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saying how fast things can be turned

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into cash . But I don't care so much

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about how much I make of it . It's

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going in a couple of places going FDIC

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insured , it's going into high yield

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savings accounts , money market savings

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accounts , regular savings accounts um

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for my short term goals for my

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emergency fund , my travel money . Now ,

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if I need it to be like we talked about ,

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you know , buying a house in a couple

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of years , right ? I might put that in

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a certificate . Why ? Because basically

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I can lock it away as a time frame .

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That's my medium term goals for myself ,

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lock it away for a time frame . Um And

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it's gonna give me a higher interest

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rate than my savings account . And then

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my long term goals like , you know , so

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I don't care about safety so much . I

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don't care about liquidity but yield .

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So one of the things I'm trying to get

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people to understand the reason why we

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invest is not to get rich . The reason

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why we invest is to beat inflation

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right , to beat inflation over time .

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So I want to make money higher than the

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inflation rate and that's money I

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invest in and I usually say don't

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invest in any money you can't afford to

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lose . Ok . So um to wrap things up

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there , you need to be cognizant of

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your net worth , you know , shooting to

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calculate your net worth on an annual

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basis . And that is of course , your

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assets minus your liabilities as far as

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setting financial goals , you need to

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be realistic . So when you say

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realistic , some people say like , hey ,

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I want to be a billionaire . Is that

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unrealistic ? Well , it might not be

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unrealistic , but you have to have a

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specific number . I want to be a

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billionaire by this time frame and by

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investing or saving this much money .

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And so um unless you use a calculator

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or you use an account or something like

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that , you may , they may not be

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realistic . Like it's like saying I

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came to saso last week and I want to

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save $100,000 by next week is that may ,

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may , may be some realistic if you're a

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high income earner , but maybe not . So

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let's make it a little bit more

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realistic . Let's break down the

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numbers . So one of the things I tell

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people , once you find your number ,

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break out a calculator and see if it's

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realistic for you and you're putting

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things on paper , spreadsheets , making

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a plan . Uh and you need to , you know ,

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put that plan with a time frame in

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which you hope to reach said number .

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What about being flexible when setting

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financial goals . Do you know things

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happen in life ? You have medical

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emergencies , things of that nature . I

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think people need to remember to be

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flexible . Is that yeah , definitely

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you should be flexible . Like like

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people come here and they say , well ,

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Mr Norm , I had $20,000 save but I had

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to , I had to come out of the pocket

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20,000 stop . But the first thing I say

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to him is at least you had $20,000 .

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You have to be flexible folks , stuff

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happens , things happen . So basically

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you gotta be kind to yourself , right ?

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You got , you know , um so if say you

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had to come out of pocket , you had to

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do some stuff , then you calculate a

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plan , how to get back on track with

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those things . But you got to allow

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yourself a little bit of space . Uh a

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spending plan , a budget or whatever

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doesn't have to be so uh uh rigid .

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Yeah , like you're saying , um keeping

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track of your day to day spending and

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you know , having a working budget is

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so pivotal , so crucial . Um How do you

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know if you need to make a change to

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your budget ? Ok . So for myself , how

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I need to make a change if , first of

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all , if , if I'm not saving , if I'm

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not investing . And another third thing

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is if uh if I'm not enjoying my life ,

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right ? So I'll take a look at how my

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spending is going . Are there things

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that I'm spending on that ? I don't

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value that I could save money on like ,

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so I may cut stuff out like eating .

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That's kind of important to me , right ?

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Because it's now it's just me and my

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wife , but maybe especially in Japan ,

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right ? So basically I'll , I'll look

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at areas that are not so important to

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me . I'll cut back in those areas so I

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can allocate money for saving investing .

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Um saving is super huge because

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emergency funds , right ? Things happen

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and you uh mentioned something about

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like a breakdown in regards to

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budgeting like a a 50 30 20 breakdown

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there . So the navy don't get in

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trouble in this , but the navy , the

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navy uses 70 2010 70% to um to living

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expenses . Uh 20% no more than 20% of

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debt and then 10% for your your savings .

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Well , in the Sylvania sector , they

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use another budgeting . It's 50 30 20

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50% the needs 20% 30% the wants . I

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mean he wants and then uh uh 20% the

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savings , right ? So whichever one

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works for you . Um As long as for me ,

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as long as you're saving , but I like

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personally no debt . I mean , if you

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have debt , I don't consider cars if

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they're reasonable time frames like 3

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to 4 years , car payments , stuff like

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that or mortgages . I'm talking about

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credit card debt mostly and loan debt ,

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right ? Because those guys will get you

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in big trouble , make sure to pay

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yourself first . You just sound like a

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bill . The first bill you should pay is

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yourself . That's right . Ok . So um

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when thinking about your future , a lot

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of people like to bring up this idea of

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an investment period uh in regards to

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your financial goals , when someone

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says Time Horizon , for someone that

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may not know what does , what does Time

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Horizon mean ? All right , great

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question . So a lot of folks don't like

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investing a lot of younger folks

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especially don't like investing because

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they don't know that Time Horizon , how

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far out or what they're investing for ,

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right ? So Time Horizon means for me is

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that um like we mentioned before buying

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a house , what's my time rising for

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buying a house ? Maybe three years ,

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two years , whatever , what's my time

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horizon for investing for , for

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retirement ? We're looking about 10 to

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15 years down the road , usually short

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term goals or maybe 1 to 2 years ,

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medium term goals , maybe 3 to 5 years

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and then your long term goals like five

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years and beyond . So those are your

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time horizons know what you're

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investing for . That's the reason why

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TSP folks TSP is not for now . Like

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I'll ask people , what are you

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investing in TSP for if you want to get

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out of the Navy ? No , it's not for

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when you get out of the Navy . It's for

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when you retired , e least you can take

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out a TSP is 59.5 . So you have to look

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beyond that . Yeah . And uh this might

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be going down a little bit of a rabbit

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hole . But I must ask you . So I know

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sometimes when people are investing in

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the stock market , they think about ,

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hey , this is a stock that I want to

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hold on to forever . The big example

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that comes to mind is Berkshire

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Hathaway and Coca Cola , right ? But I

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know other people sometimes think of

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like a price point in which they want

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to sell a stock . What do you think

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about that ? Do you like to invest in

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stocks ? Do you want to hold on to it

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for the long haul or how do you look at

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that ? So I'm a buy and ho kind of guy .

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But I do have a mentor , my mentor ,

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one of my mentors told me like he keeps

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us . So he'll decide when he goes out

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and gets a company , right ? He'll , is

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a long term buy , like his long term

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buy is Disney , right ? He's had it

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forever or is it something that he's

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maybe he'll , he'll wait , he'll have

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an entry point and an exit point ,

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right ? So he'll say , ok , when it

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gets to this much money , I'll pull out

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of it , right ? It's not something for

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the future . And so one of the ways if

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you ever invest , you can do that , not

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in TSP but outside you have limit

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orders that you can put a limit order

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in . So you can put an order in that

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says when this stop stock hits this

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certain limit , right ? This amount of

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money , I want you to sell it or when

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the stock hits a certain amount of

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money , I want to buy it . Right ? And

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I'm a big believer in having different

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accounts for different things . So your

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TSP could you be a go to retirement

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account ? Right . But I have accounts

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that I don't wanna say play money , but

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accounts that I can do dabble a little

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bit in other stuff like crypto is a big

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thing . People say , do you endorse

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crypto ? I don't think it's wrong if

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that's what you wanna do as long as

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you're not putting whole portfolio into

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crypto . I mean , people do say Bitcoin

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is back on the rise , Bitcoin if you're

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going to invest the crypto

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Cryptocurrency , Bitcoin , Ethereum

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pretty much are more stable than all

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the other coins out there . All right .

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That leads us to risk tolerance when

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talking about , you know , investing ,

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what does risk tolerance mean ? All

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right . So you have a great term . So

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there's two terms actually risk to risk

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capacity , right ? So risk tolerance

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means that um how like I just asked

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somebody this morning , if the market

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dropped 36% how would that make you

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feel ? And they were like Oh , yeah .

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Yeah . So one of the things is a lot of

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people get into the stock market

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investing and they think they have a

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high risk tolerance . Why ? Because

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everybody has a high risk tolerance

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once the market is going up . Right .

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It's when the market drops , you don't ,

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you find out what your risk tolerance

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is on the , on the back side of that is

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risk capacity and that's a little bit

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different . So I may have a high risk

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tolerance but maybe I didn't start

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investing to later on . So I have to

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make a certain amount of money to live

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comfortably . So I have to , I have to

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monitor my risk tolerance with my risk

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capacity because there's a mark I have

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to make , right ? And so people have to

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balance both of those things . You

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might have nerves , nerves of steel ,

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right ? But I might need a million

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dollars , right ? Or something like

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that . And I can't afford to lose it .

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So I gotta be realistic about that .

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All right . And another term that is

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coming to mind that I think people need

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to be aware of is inflation risk . What

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do people uh discuss in relation to

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that term ? Inflation risk ? All right .

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So people don't , a lot of folks don't

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understand inflation or how , how it

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affects them . So I usually give the

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example when I came in the Navy in 1984

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A Ford Mustang costs about $6700 . Now

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you can't get a Ford Mustang for that .

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And so folks , the reason why you're

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investing because savings accounts

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don't beat inflation . You want the

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same buying power um that you have um

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now you want the same buying power in

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the future . So some safe assets that

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we think are safe , like the G fund and

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TSP or your savings accounts , they are

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safe and , but there are risk . Uh it's

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not investment risk or a market risk ,

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but it's uh inflation risk . You're not

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beating the rate of inflation , your

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money is not growing for you as fast as ,

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as you want it to be . And we all got

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our fingers crossed that the inflation

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rate is gonna continue to decline this

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year . The Feds are shooting for 2%

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right ? And now houses are , yeah , I ,

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I personally feel that housing mortgage

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rates won't go as low as 3% for a while ,

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but at least I'll get a little bit more

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reasonable . Yeah , we're all hoping

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out here and um to wrap things up long

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term holds in comparison to a medium

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term hold . Uh What can you give for

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examples uh for those two terms ? Ok .

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So a long term hold would be your TSP ,

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right ? Something or investment that's

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gonna that you're saving for retirement .

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You know , you know , we always talk

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about the 7030 portfolio , 64 60 40

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portfolio long term hole . Now my short

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term for me a short term hole is my ,

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uh , medium term holds is my

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certificates , right ? Um , maybe 3 to

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6 years . Um , but my , my short term

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Hale is my , um , my savings account

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because I need those certifications and ,

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and , uh , um , for emergencies and

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things like that . So that's how I , I

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parcel money into different pockets .

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Right ? Or some people say buckets ,

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right ? Different buckets for that .

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Right . Awesome . All right . Well , I

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think we learned a lot today and I hope

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the listeners did as well . I'm sure

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they did , but I'd like to thank you

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for joining me in studio once again for

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another awesome segment of Money

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Mondays with Mr Nor O Kata , the

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credited financial counselor over at

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the Fleet and Family Support Center .

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And uh , yeah , we're all building

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wealth out here , generational

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generational wealth . That's what it's

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all about . Right . That's right .

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Thank you so much .

