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Hello C A petty officer Riley

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mcdowell here A K A DJ Big Sky . And

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I'm sitting down for another amazing

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interview with Mr Norm O KA , the

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financial specialist over at the Fleet

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and Family Support Center . Is that

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your correct job title ? Well , a

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credit to Finance Council , but it's ,

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it's ok if anything with finances works

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for me . I know I messed that up every

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time . All right . So uh we're sitting

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down for another money Monday's

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interview and today we are discussing

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buying a vehicle , there's a lot that

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needs to be considered . Um and to

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start things off budgeting , why is um

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considering your budget so important

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when thinking about buying a vehicle ?

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Great question because I think it's a

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starting point because basically the

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fact is you wanna make sure whatever

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you purchase fits inside your budget .

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What I see is usually the opposite ,

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you know , um people try to fit their

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budget into the purchase and they end

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up getting in trouble , you know . So

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basically I used to joke about it said

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if you have a $25,000 car budget , you

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shouldn't be purchasing a $50,000 car .

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Right . Dang . It can't get that Tesla

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man . Not right now , at least unless

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you say for it . All right . Fair

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enough . So myself uh as of right now

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I'm pretty cheap . You know , I came

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out here to Sass and I bought myself a

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little K car that was about $1000 and I

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feel pretty good about that because I'm

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trying to save money , pay off debt ,

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that sort of a thing . Um But are there

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any like um rules when it comes to

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budgeting and , and what you should

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spend one ? You shouldn't ? Yeah . So

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one of the things they talk about is

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that your transportation cost should be

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no more than 20 25% of gross income .

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You know , some people say net income

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because net incomes take home pay ,

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right ? But basically you wanna make

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sure that your transportation costs and

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that includes not only car payment ,

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the gas and all the other stuff is

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within a a reasonable um uh budget ,

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right ? The problem with that now is

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cars are really expensive , not so much

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here in Saso , but in the state , I

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mean , we were talking off air used

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cars cost a little bit more than new

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cars . And so it's really , really hard

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to keep that number , but you should

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just make sure you get something that

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fits in within your budget because it

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will allow you to pay off debt , like

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you said , or even save and invest and

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put more on your TSP . Yeah . Well ,

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when I was back in Norfolk before IP CS

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over here , uh , maybe a year and a

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half ago I was , uh , helping out one

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of my junior sailors , like , actually

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find a decent vehicle that run well ,

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and , um , get a good deal on it and we

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pulled up to the used car dealership in

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Norfolk . I know that's a little scary

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for some of my Norfolk sailors . But ,

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uh , they were basically trying to

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convince me to sell my 2003 Tahoe and

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it had all kinds of miles and wasn't

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even in the best shape . It just kind

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of reminded me that , like what the

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used car market was like back in the

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States . And , um , yeah , so I've

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never bought a brand new vehicle in my

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whole life , but I know a lot of , a

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lot of guys are doing that right now

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and like , so , like , we just had a

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staff member of P CS and she compared

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the cost and it was actually cheaper

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for her to buy a brand new vehicle than

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it buy a used vehicle . And I think ,

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you know , it all depends on what

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you're looking for if you're like a

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mechanic guy like my son or , or you

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might a used vehicle may be good for

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you . But if you're not like , you're

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like me , who's not such , he's not a

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good mechanical kind of guy . You might

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want that , uh , that , um , oil change

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thing . They give you all those other

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things , the perks that come along with

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buying a new vehicle . Yeah . Well , we

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don't have to , uh , get too far into

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the weeds on this . But I did want to

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ask you . So when I end up PC sing ,

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which is gonna probably be , um , here

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in about a year and some change , I'm

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probably not gonna take my vehicle with

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me . And once I hit the States , um , I

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was considering leasing a vehicle . Do

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you have any , like , really quick , um ,

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thoughts on people leasing vehicles ,

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especially , you know , junior sailors

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in the E five E six area ? Yeah . Funny

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that you asked , you know , leases has

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become very popular because of the fact

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that people are not keeping cars for

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more than five years in general . So I

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have like a , a guide here from , um ,

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this call from , from a website called

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Personal Finance from Military life.org .

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And funny that you asked , they give

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the understanding a lease and , um ,

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they have some of the advantages of

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leasing , uh , lower monthly payment ,

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fewer repair costs . Um , so there are

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some perks to , to , to , um , to

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leasing however , there are some

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disadvantages you don't own the vehicle

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and it can be expensive in the long run

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and why , um , because basically miles

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cost , so you go over mileage , they're

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gonna ask you how you use the car if

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you go over those miles and then if

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something happens to the car , you know ,

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in general , people talk about

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something called gap insurance . Uh ,

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gap insurance is the difference between

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what you own the car or on the lease or

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whatever and what if the car gets total

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and it doesn't get paid off ? Yeah ,

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well , I'm not a car person per se ,

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so I either like to buy very cheap

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vehicles , um , or something , you know ,

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that I lease where I can , you know ,

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ensure that somebody is doing a little

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bit of the maintenance for me . Um , so

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I think there are some good things like ,

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you know , um good things about leasing ,

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like I said , if you're not going to

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keep the car for a long time and if you

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have a high turnover , but you just

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gotta make sure you do your homework .

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That's right . And you mentioned right

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there , uh PC Sing . I know that I hear

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a lot of guys and gals once again

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getting in a little bit of hot water ,

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PC Sing , not saving up the appropriate

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amount of money and um spending their

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government travel card like they

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shouldn't . Do you have any like tips

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and tricks just off . The cuff there .

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Yeah , lots of tips and tricks . I'm

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talking about this in A OB IC R and a

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lot of other classes . First thing is

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you should be , you should have a P CS

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fund every month . You should be

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putting away money for P CS . Um , we

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recently , you know , put out that 15

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to 20% . 15 to $20,000 is what people

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should have . Um , P CS costs texts a

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lot , especially in S A start up cost ,

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right ? So 15 to $20,000 . So you

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should save that for every month . The

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other thing is folks , uh you should do

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a budget before your P CS . Some people

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make out better when they P CS because

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maybe they , they had beh or maybe

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their spouse works . But what usually

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happens is some spouse , some people ,

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especially if you're going from SB to

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the States . Um It could be more

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expensive because basically if your

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spouse was working there and even if

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your spouse wasn't working , maybe

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you're going to short duty versus sea

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duty , you're losing your collar .

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Somebody just told me recently that in

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San Diego apartments are renting for 3

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to $5000 a month . No , I believe it .

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I've been looking at uh bah State side

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and I think San Diego was the highest

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number I saw . Maybe Honolulu beats

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that . But um San Francisco and New

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York I think are the highest . Well ,

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really ? Yeah . But um usually , and

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some , they were telling me 3 to $5000

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for apartments , but the bh was only

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about four grand , 4500 or something

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like that for their family . So that's

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that . So they're gonna have to come

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out of pocket . So those things that

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you should be looking at right now ,

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I'm , I'm actually , uh , inside my

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window right now and , uh , I picked

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three billets that I'm interested in

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for starters and San Diego and DC . And

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I'm already thinking about all the

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money that I'm gonna have to spend ,

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you know , for two s money areas . Yeah ,

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exactly . The cost of living is gonna

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go up a lot for me here in the near

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future . But , uh , bringing things

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back to buying a vehicle . I know we're

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a little bit all over the place . Um ,

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what is something that people should

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consider when buying a vehicle and the

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total price of that vehicle ? I know a

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lot of guys , you know , especially the

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youngsters . Uh , they see the new

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Mustang , the new charger and they just

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want to pull the trigger . What do you ,

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what do you have to say about that ?

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Number one , number one thing people

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buy after the deployments of cars ,

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right ? So here's the thing , folks ,

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um , don't , don't concentrate on the ,

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on the , uh , monthly payment because

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what's gonna happen if you go to the

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car dealership and they say you say

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they're gonna ask you to say , hey , Mr

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O Carter . How much you wanna pay a

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month on this car ? Oh , I think I

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wanna pay about $400 they're gonna say

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really ? Ok , so really they're gonna

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stretch that 400 they're gonna make you

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get you in that $400 payment , but that

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$400 payment could be stretched out for

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as long as seven years . Um , and

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basically right now interest rates are

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very high in vehicles . So over time

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frame , you're gonna pay more than you

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want to concentrate on what the total

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cost of the vehicle , how much the um ,

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man manufacturers . So , um , so

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suggested retail price and any deals

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that they get , the dealership actually

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gets deals um , from Ford or whoever

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that that is and you can apply those

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things . The other thing is you might

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wanna go get financing before you get

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to the dealership because the

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dealership makes a lot of money on

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their financing . So you wanna compare .

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So whether it be whoever your bank is

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Navy Federal , whoever it is you might

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wanna , they may give you a better deal

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on the financing than the vehicle , the

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car dealer . That makes a lot of sense .

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Yeah , I , I still remember , uh ,

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going through some kind of math course

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as 1/8 grader and going home to my

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father and asking him how long is your

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mortgage pops ? And he told me he had a

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30 year mortgage and I basically called

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him a and told him he needs to change

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his mortgage to a 15 year mortgage

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because he's spending so much money on

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interest . But uh it kind of kind of

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relates to buying a vehicle , the

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longer you got that loan out for , even

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if it is with the dealership or the

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bank or whoever that is X amount of

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dollars you're gonna spend on interest

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over the top 3 to 5 years . Kind of

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recommend some people recommend three

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years , I think five years the most .

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And when I first came in the Navy back

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in the day , it was back then the , the

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average mortgage , I mean , the average

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um , car , car um , interest rate , low

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time frame was about 60 months . But

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right now we're stretching it to 94

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months , right ? 70 years or maybe even

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longer for some people . Ok . Now , um

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secondly , I wanted to talk a little

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bit about credit reports and um one

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major question I have in regards to

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credit reports whenever you're making a

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big purchase like this is who do you

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trust and who can you go to for an

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accurate credit report ? Ok , good . So

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number one car buying then check your

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credit report first , right ? Because

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that's gonna affect your interest rate .

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So annual credit report.com . Right mom ,

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that's the one that's recommends

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government , right ? Um Equifax

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Experience Transunion . And now because

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of the pandemic , you can check your

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credit report every week , every week

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that should be the first one . I know a

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lot of people using credit Karma .

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That's cool . And everything you can

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use that . But annual credit report.com

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is the one to go to . Right . And so

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you should be checking that . Um ,

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right now the credit scores go from 300

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to 850 . If you're about 6 5700 , you

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about average , you know , um , if

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you're 750 above , you're great . Those

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are important numbers . I'm writing

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those down right now . Definitely .

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Definitely . And then the other thing

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with that is you talk about credit

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reports now and you can check me on

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this . Um , it's called rate shopping .

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If you pull , depending how whoever

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pulls your credit report . If they pull

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it within a two , if they pull , um ,

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under the old system , anything within

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a two week period is considered one hit

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on your credit report , one hard hard

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hit . If they pull it in , under the

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new system , anything within 45 days

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for the same thing , like whether it be

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a vehicle purchase or house purchase

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counts as one hit because they call

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because they know you're shopping

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around . Ok . That's , uh , important

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to remember . I , I never remembered

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all these little tiny rules around your

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credit report . It's a little weird to

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me . Exactly . All right . So now if I

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am planning on heading back to the

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States and I'm thinking about pulling

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the trigger on buying a vehicle , what

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should I think about for a down payment .

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Do I need a down payment at all ? Yeah ,

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it depend . I , you know , the rule of

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thumb , some people say 20 just like a

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house , right ? 20% down . You should

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put something down . You know , because

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basically the fact is by putting money

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down , it makes your payments a little

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bit lower and manageable . Right . So

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you should put something down and then ,

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you know , usually if you have a , if

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you have , uh , get bonuses or whatever ,

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you can add that you can pay more on ,

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on the car and things like that . But

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you should put a down payment in , in

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general , in most cases , 20% seems to

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be the , the number right now . 10% 10%

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being the minimum . It seems a little

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bit challenging is , I think down

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payment and I think of me trying to

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scrounge together some money to put up

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down payment on a house , but I'm gonna

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tell you , ok , so I talk about this in

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a ob how to get a down payment for a

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car . People used to buy , buy cars

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cash when they left SAS back in the day

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and how they did it and how these young

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folks can do it is basically you find

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out what kind of car you want , you

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find out what the car payment is , you

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go to your bank , whatever , whether it

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be Navy Federal , there be behavioral

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finances . So you can put your na names

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on your account . So you could say my

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car buying account , my Tesla account ,

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whatever , right ? So you figure out

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what the payment is for that Tesla and

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basically you save it every month ,

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right ? It makes it a lot easier than

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trying to get that money for the Tesla

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when you get back or whatever you wanna

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buy . So you pretend like you're buying

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the car but you buy it on paper . Ok ,

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fair enough . And lastly , uh what do

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people need to consider when um

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shopping around for car insurance ? So

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you wanna , if you have a good car , um ,

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insurance person , you know a lot of

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people , I'm not , I'm not um um saying

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that you go out there but usa a lot of

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people I know a lot of military folks ,

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U USA you can bundle your insurance ,

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right ? So basically if you have other

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types of insurance with them , you can

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put your car insurance is like you got

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homeowners insurance , you wanna get ,

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make sure you put that um , all

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together . So look for deals and then

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also based on the safety features of

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the car , you um buy a lot of um ,

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insurance companies will get you better

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deals , consider deductible . Do you

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want a $500 deductible ? Do you want a

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higher deductible ? And what that means

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is that if you put a higher deductible ,

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um , then you're gonna um , pay less ,

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right ? Because basically you come out

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of pocket more . Another thing to

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consider is your once again your credit

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score , a lot of people don't know this

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but your car insurance is based on your

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credit score . It's a credibility

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character check . So you wanna keep ,

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that's another reason why you wanna

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keep a , a good credit score , good

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things to think about there . Now , I

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have a question for me if you

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had the ability and I'm not saying you

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don't to buy one super car

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and you didn't have to worry about the

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upkeep or anything . What , what are we

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going with ? Well , I just , you know ,

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it's funny that you asked , I just

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bought a car . I'm getting into the

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29th of this month . I bought a , a

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Mazda MX 30 mxmx 30 and ,

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you know , it's , uh , my , my wife and

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I , we suffered from the beginning . We

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had an $800 hoop knee working , uh , uh ,

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spring oil and all that stuff . And

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then we moved up , we had kids and we

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moved up to the vans , we had an M PV

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and a premise . And so we just figured ,

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you know what our kids are in their

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twenties now , um , now it's our time .

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So right now we're driving a little

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hustler , but we decided to get an MX

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30 because the luxury luxury in the

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front , it's really , really nice car

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to drive . I test drove it and that's

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probably our , our last car that we

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purchased and this will be our , let's

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go on some trips . Car . That's what

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I'm purchasing . Does it have some get

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up and go ? Uh , not really , you know ,

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it's not really a strong car but I love

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the interior , the interior and how it

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drives and how it rides . Um , what

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sold me , I test drove it a couple of

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weeks ago . My son was actually

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thinking about buying one and I went

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with him on a test drive and after I

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sat in the back seat , I was like , oh ,

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this sounds , this feels pretty good .

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Let me go ahead and test drive . And so

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um we test drove it and then , you know ,

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I looked at uh our budget and how much

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it costs and then I'm putting more on

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it . Um then um it's , and then the

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interest rate is only 2.99 it's pretty

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low . So I looked at the cost and how

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much I'm gonna finds for how long and

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it worked within my budget because I

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wanna still save and invest . Yeah , of

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course . Well , my uh my wife is

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absolutely obsessed with the hustler .

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She thinks it's the coolest car ever .

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But one thing I did wanna mention uh is

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I am going to miss my car insurance

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prices when I head back to the States

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because I just re upped my um policy

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and for my little Japanese K car for

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the year uh because my good driver

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record , I paid 100 and 50 bucks for

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liability insurance on the year . Oh ,

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my God , it's pretty hard to beat that .

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Exactly . But anyways , I really

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appreciate your time . I appreciate you

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joining us here in studio , Mr Okada .

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And , uh , yeah , please tune in next

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Monday for another segment of money .

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Mondays with Mr Norm Okada . Give it up .

