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show me the money . Welcome to Money

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Mondays . I'm your host , Petty Officer

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Julia Brockman . I've got Mr No Ka here

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in the studio as always . Welcome . Hey ,

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glad to be here . Thanks . I'm glad to

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be here as well . So today we've got uh

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a pretty big topic . So we're gonna be

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talking about planning for life after

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the military . So we're gonna kick it

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off with a transition fund , Quiton .

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And definitely , um usually we say ,

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you know , people , we say you need 3

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to 6 months of living expenses while

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you have a job and while you're in the

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military . But a lot of folks don't

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understand that it might take you a

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little bit longer to get a job . And so

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we recommend a 12 month transition fund .

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And so people whether or not you're

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thinking about getting out , right ?

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You should start saving for that

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because it might take you longer to get

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a job . It took me about eight months

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to get a job . Yeah , I've definitely

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heard of or had experience with a lot

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of friends who get out and , uh , we

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were talking about how some people get

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out on emotion and , and so they don't

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really have a , a job lined up ahead of

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time . But , uh , having a little bit

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of cushion , uh , definitely is a good

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idea . I mean , part of the transition ,

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anything you do financially all should

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include a plan , whether or not you're

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emotional or not , you got to have a

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plan . Um , because basically once you

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get out a lot of the stuff that we have

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inside the military is no longer

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available for you . Yeah , you're just

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on your own . You don't have that

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support . Um , so how long , or how

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much do you suggest somebody should

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have ? So we say at least 12 months of

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your living expenses . Like , so if you

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spend $3000 a month , you should have ,

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what , 36 th , 3600 , 36,000 , right ?

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30 about $36,000 . But that's

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overwhelming number . Right . So we

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usually tell people start with the 1st

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$1000 at least $1000 and start from

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there . Right . One of the things I

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usually tell people in t class ,

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especially the single , um , junior

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guys , if you're getting out , try to

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live on a one paycheck , you know ,

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bank , the other paycheck . As much as

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you can and then cut back on your

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living expenses a little bit . Ok .

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Yeah , so one paycheck per month , one

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paycheck per month and then put the

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other one into your savings and stuff .

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That's not a bad plan and you can label

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it . You know , you open up AAA check a

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savings account and if you federal or

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whoever your financial institution is

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and you can label it , right ? My

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transition fund , right ? So , you know ,

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not to touch that money . I had a

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mentor back in the day who uh he always ,

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he suggested having like multiple

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different accounts . And so you can

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kind of like almost like think of it

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like a virtual envelope and you can

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drop , you know , money into specific

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accounts for just those things . I

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totally agree with that . I like , you

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know , but some people can't manage it ,

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but I totally agree with that . I like

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having accounts for every goal that I

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have and dropping the money in there .

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So I know what and then , like I said

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on behavioral finance , putting names

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on those things . So I know what I'm

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saving for and it's , it's a visual

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remind of like , OK , I'm putting this

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much into this specific thing . I think

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it's definitely a lot easier to keep

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track of visually and stuff . Um

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because I know for myself , I uh I

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think I kind of struggle with that

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sometimes , like in my mind , I'll know

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like how much I have saved for

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something . Um , but sometimes it's

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like if it's all just in one account .

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So it's just like , oh , did I , you

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know , save enough for this or did I

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take out enough for this other thing ?

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And exactly , you don't dip into your

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car buying , like you want to buy a car ,

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you not want to dip into that . I just

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think like , oh , I have a lot of money .

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I'll probably be all right . But , uh ,

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it's probably wise to , uh , break it

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up and , uh , have that peace of mind

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and , uh , a little bit more

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organization . But now let's talk about

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knowing what you make and what you'll

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need for where you're planning to be

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after the military . Yeah , definitely .

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Um , so a lot of folks , um , they

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don't , we don't really know how much

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we make in the military . And so they

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have something called R MC calculator

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or regular military compensation

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calculator . You can google it and it

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shows you pretty much what you need to

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make in the surveillance sector to have

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the same quality of life in the

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military because a lot of our things

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aren't taxed . So , a lot of times , uh ,

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the folks will tell me in tap class ,

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they'll say I'm gonna make $50,000

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after I leave the military and then if

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you go to a salary calculator , we use

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the smart asset , salary calculator in

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tap class . If you use that , that

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calculator . You put 50,000 in there

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and you put taxes in there and it comes

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up to be pretty much what a , what A E

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four makes , um , a paycheck . Well ,

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one of the things I told you should

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tell folks when I transitioned from the

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military , my first job was , uh ,

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making 42,500 from the fleet family

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sports . And when I first started and

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that equated to about $1800 every two

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weeks before taxes . Yeah , definitely .

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Yeah . So it's , it's not the same ,

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it's like that , that money doesn't go

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the same way . It's just like , and I

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definitely realize that for myself

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because it's , uh , you know , every

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now and then I'll just like , look at

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my pay and , uh , just kind of see like

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how things are added and deducted and ,

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you know , it is not lost on me how ,

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how much , uh we benefit . Uh So it's

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like I get paid a certain amount , but

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I also , I'm not spending a lot because

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we get compensated for a lot of our

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expenses . And you should like , and so

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when you decide where you wanna go ,

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you should do a co a cost of living

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calculator , right ? To see , you know ,

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like , you know , are you gonna choose

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job over location or choose location

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over job ? Like I chose location ? It

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might take you a little bit longer ,

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right ? And then what's the cost of

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living in the area that you're going

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through , you might get a big paycheck

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in one area in one part of the country .

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But that's because basically a lot of

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your expenses are gonna be high . Oh ,

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yeah , like , uh , when I was in San

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Diego I was entertaining the idea of ,

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you know , buying a house there . But ,

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uh , I think the longer I'm away from

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it , I think I've kind of like , uh ,

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kind of shied away from that idea

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because I'm like , the housing there is

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very expensive and , you know , the

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cost of living I'm sure across all the

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US is right now , but I feel like it's

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a little bit more in San Diego , the

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medium house in San Diego right now ,

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somewhere between 1,300,000 . And you

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talk about with a 7% interest rate for

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houses . That's , that's almost like a

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5000 $6000 mortgage a month . Yes , I'm

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friends with a couple of realtors there

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and I think that was probably why they

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were kind of brainwashing me to , to

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get a house there . Be your friends

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then . But I was like , well , if they

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did it , I can do it but they're

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probably going to be paying that house

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off for a long time mortgage . That's a

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lot of money . Yeah . But then it's

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just like , yeah , so they make a lot

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of money but a big portion of their

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money goes into just living . Um ,

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whereas , you know , maybe somewhere

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like Texas , uh , you know , you can

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get a lot more affordable house and

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land and things like that , but maybe

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make less and still have the same kind

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of quality . And then we talked a

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little bit earlier about offline about ,

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um , what , how much the , how much

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military paychecks would they pay ?

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Right . So , like , military will tell

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me the expenses , what's the biggest

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thing they spend on is food , right ?

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And I was telling you that the biggest

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expenses that , um , civilians spend on

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is transportation and housing , about

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50% of their paycheck will be

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transportation and housing when I was

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in Florida . Um , I lived in kind of

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like a smallish town and my job was

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like , 45 minutes just driving . So I

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was like , that's 45 minutes each way .

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I was like , I was spending a lot of

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gas . So I was spending like , my main

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expenses were car insurance , gas and

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rent . I was like , and the rest of

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that was like , maybe I can , you know ,

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go out to eat once or twice this week

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and now it's like the opposite . All of

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my money goes to going out to eat and

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Amazon . Yeah , definitely . So

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when a lot of folks , when they think

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about transitioning , they don't count

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into the fact that they don't pay

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medical insurance right now . Right .

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Um , so usually I usually tell people

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that your W-2 is fake because a lot of

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your stuff is not taxable . We're not

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paying for health insurance and all

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that other stuff . Health insurance .

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Civilian sector will run an individual

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usually about $600 a month if they're

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not on their company plan , company

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plan is a little bit cheaper . Right .

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But they usually run a family about

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1112 $100 a month . That's , that's not

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even going to the doctor . That's not

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even copay copayments and things like

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that . That's just your premium every

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month that you have to pay for , which

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we don't pay for that . That is crazy .

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And then you guys are we talking uh you

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and uh DJ Big Sky were talking about um

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if you don't have health insurance ,

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there's like a penalty . Yeah .

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Affordable Care Act , right ? So

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basically most Americans should have to

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have a health insurance . Otherwise you

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could be penalized to the Affordable

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Care Act . So we're covered because we

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have Tricare me as a retiree . They

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give me a statement on my pay every

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year that I submit with my taxes to say

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that I have health insurance . Yeah ,

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that's uh that's pretty . Uh so there

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you go . So the civilians are paying ,

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you know , high health insurance and

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rent and you know , probably

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transportation and all kinds of crazy

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things in . So that's why everybody's

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so stressed out , right ? Yeah , I'm

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like let me stay a little longer . But

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what are some other differences between

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the two ? Yeah , and then , you know ,

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the other thing is , is that , um ,

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that , you know , we , we don't know

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what we make , we don't know what we

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spend or what we would have to spend in

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there . Um , so , and then it's a lot

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harder in some places , like if you to

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get a job based on , you know , we

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think like that everybody who's

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qualified gets a job but not everybody ,

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um , who's qualified does get the job .

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And so you may have the plan for that

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longer . I had a friend of mine got out

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in 2020 he was a lieutenant and he was

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told that he had to go to , uh , fill

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out 20 applications at a job fair and

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he laughed at it . He thought it was ,

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they were joking and then eight months

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later , he was still unemployed . Right .

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And so he finally got hired on by NASA ,

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but it was kind of like an eye opening

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experience for him . He did have a

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transition fund , but he had invested

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in the stock market , which wasn't a

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good thing at the time . Right . So ,

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just something other options to think

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about . And we're talking planning for

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life after the military . We've covered

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a few topics already . But let's talk

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about Taps and Fleet and Family Support

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Center and some of their resources that

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they have . Definitely , I think we're

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like one of the unutilized resources .

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Right . So let's talk about tap . So I

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usually tell people , um , they should

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go , at least one , they should go at

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least 2 to 3 times to tap because

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there's a lot of information that can

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be overwhelming . And if you're married

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or have a partner , significant other ,

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you should drag them to tap with you

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because they need to understand what

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goes on there . Right . Um , so tap ,

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um , will talk to you about resume

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writing , finances , a lot of different

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subjects and then there's a fleet and

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family support center piece on that .

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So you went through tap . Now , you

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know , you plan on getting out , you

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need a resume . We have resume writing .

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We have the family employment resume ,

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um , family employment , um , program .

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And we also have people in there will

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teach you how to write resumes .

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There's two different types . Mostly

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there's a , um , a federal resume which

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is pretty long , it's like a book and

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then there's private sector resume ,

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which is usually about one or two pages .

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Ok . So , do you guys help people write

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them or just , like , review it for

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them ? Yeah . So what they'll do is

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they'll come in and give you the

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different examples like chronological

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or , or , um , um , um , resumes ,

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you'll write your resume but they'll ,

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they'll help you , they'll give you a

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guide to write those . And then the

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basically thing is they'll proof check

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it for you and give you feedback on it .

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They're not gonna write it for you .

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But , but basically because you know ,

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basically give you because if you don't

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know what's on your resume , right ?

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What's gonna , what's gonna happen ?

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You go to a job interview and they're

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gonna ask you stuff on your resume and

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you're not gonna know you're not gonna

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be able to answer , right ? So , what

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are some other tools you got ? Uh , job

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searching and job search ? And then you

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can come talk to me or Navy Marine

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Corps lie . Not only fleet families ,

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Navy Marine Corps lief , you can get um

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we have a budget sheet that has what

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you make . Now we'll show you what you

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make now and what you have to make . Um

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or what you think you're gonna make in

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civilian sector and we can look at

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areas that maybe you can cut your

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expenses . Now , there's a lot of stuff

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that you can cut out . Now , I'll have

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you usually track your expenses for 3

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to 4 weeks . So you know what you're ,

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what you're making and things like that .

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So , but there's a lot of other

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resources there um to help you out .

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And then we were talking earlier about

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uh job searching tools . Yeah , USA

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jobs is a great tool . So there's

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different kind of jobs in solve sector .

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I'm a contractor , right ? But there's

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a lot of people who wanna go government ,

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right ? They need to go to USA jobs .

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And I know MC one was talking about the

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two different um uh uh two different um

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government jobs is uh GS employees and

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then there's N A employees , right ?

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And they come from two different

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funding packages . One's funded

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differently . And so yeah , you can go

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on usa jobs and start looking at stuff

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linkedin is another asset . Usually if

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you're within one year of transitioning ,

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you get linked in premium for free .

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And uh can you tell us the difference

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between those two types of uh

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government jobs you're mentioning ?

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Yeah , so non appropriated government

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um GSGS usually comes out the the

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federal government budget , non

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appropriated funds comes from another

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pool of money , right ? Usually through

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other things like MWRS , their jobs are

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non appropriate funds , how they raise

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um earnings and stuff like that and

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they'll use that kind of money for ,

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for doing different pot . One of the

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things is the overseas GS employees

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usually have what they call a five year

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rule . They can be extended by the CEO ,

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but usually they're only here for five

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years and they have to go back to the

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States NF employees as of right now .

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There's no five year old , they will be

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evaluated periodically , but there's no

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five year rule requirement for them to

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go back to and is what defines the two

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types . It's just , it's just how

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they're set up like a lot of jobs now

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are being set up for N A vice . Um GS ,

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it's just um government the , the , the

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way the system . Ok . Sounds good . Um

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Well , is there anything else you wanna

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add uh before we close it out ? Yeah ,

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folks , if you're gonna make the

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transition , do it for yourself , don't

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do it for your leadership but don't do

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it for somebody else . Make sure you're

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doing your homework , make sure you're

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planning . Everything is all about

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planning . There is life after the

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military . This will be what the , the

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17th year , 18th year I've been , I've

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been retired . So there is life after

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the military , but you gotta have a

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plan and use all the benefits . Post

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911 . All things are out there for you .

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All right . Well , there you go .

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There's tons of resources and uh people

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there to help you make that transition

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easier . Um So the big takeaway here is ,

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is a plan , plan , plan , save , save ,

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save and uh use your resources to make

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that happen . Well , that's gonna be it

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for us here on Monday . Mondays , Mr No ,

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KA , as usual and DJ Jewel Julia

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Brockman here on Monday , Mondays .

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I'll see you guys next time .

