WEBVTT 00:00.180 --> 00:02.236 Greetings . I feel like we need some 00:02.236 --> 00:04.409 fun , like civil engineering , walk up 00:04.420 --> 00:08.319 music here . Um Well , 00:08.329 --> 00:10.496 greetings Fed Supernova . Uh Thank you 00:10.496 --> 00:12.662 so much for coming out . Uh We have an 00:12.662 --> 00:14.940 amazing town hall set up for you today . 00:15.069 --> 00:17.049 Uh We are joined by a world class 00:17.059 --> 00:19.709 leader , uh Brier General William Kale 00:19.719 --> 00:21.663 from the Air Force Civil Engineers 00:21.663 --> 00:24.750 Center . Uh Before I do a more detailed 00:24.760 --> 00:26.760 introduction , uh I'm gonna cover a 00:26.760 --> 00:28.927 quick admin note and then give a short 00:28.927 --> 00:30.871 overview of operational imperative 00:30.871 --> 00:34.099 number five , resilient basing . So I'm 00:34.110 --> 00:37.779 Loll and I work for a work spark here 00:37.790 --> 00:40.770 in Austin . Uh I'll be your facilitator 00:40.779 --> 00:43.090 for the next 40 to 45 minutes and I'll 00:43.099 --> 00:46.369 try to compete with the music here . Um 00:47.540 --> 00:51.240 Sweetie . Um this is a 00:51.250 --> 00:54.279 town hall style format . So uh over the 00:54.290 --> 00:56.512 next , you know , 40 to 45 minutes . If 00:56.512 --> 00:58.346 you've got questions , we highly 00:58.346 --> 01:00.568 encourage that . I think we've got some 01:00.568 --> 01:02.909 QR codes out there in the wild um that 01:03.000 --> 01:05.111 if you scan with your smartphone , uh 01:05.111 --> 01:07.440 then you can submit a question . Uh and 01:07.449 --> 01:10.510 we'll um and we'll uh ask those uh in 01:10.519 --> 01:12.741 real time . So I've got an ipad up here 01:12.741 --> 01:14.908 that I'll see your question and then , 01:14.908 --> 01:17.130 and then we can ask them . So please be 01:17.130 --> 01:21.099 thinking of questions . Ok . So now a 01:21.110 --> 01:23.199 quick , there we go . Ok , cool . 01:26.269 --> 01:27.880 So now a quick discussion on 01:27.880 --> 01:30.047 operational imperatives . So there are 01:30.047 --> 01:33.019 seven OIS in total , uh as briefed by 01:33.029 --> 01:35.196 uh the honorable uh , secretary of the 01:35.196 --> 01:37.362 Air Force , uh Frank Kendall . I'm not 01:37.362 --> 01:39.418 gonna go through the whole list . Uh 01:39.418 --> 01:41.307 but I will cover down on O I five 01:41.307 --> 01:43.529 because that's the one we're focused on 01:43.529 --> 01:45.085 here today . So it's , it's 01:45.085 --> 01:47.970 specifically read as defining optimized , 01:47.980 --> 01:50.569 resilient , basing sustainment and 01:50.580 --> 01:52.290 communications in a contested 01:52.300 --> 01:54.930 environment . So I know that's probably 01:54.940 --> 01:57.120 a bit broad . Um So I'm gonna read 01:57.129 --> 01:58.962 through the of course , publicly 01:58.962 --> 02:00.851 releasable narrative approved for 02:00.851 --> 02:02.989 external messaging uh on the on the 02:03.000 --> 02:05.167 Department of the Air Force's approach 02:05.167 --> 02:07.529 to get us there . So the DAF will 02:07.540 --> 02:10.029 complicate the adversary's plans to 02:10.039 --> 02:12.000 target its bases by distributing 02:12.009 --> 02:15.600 operations to dispersed locations and 02:15.610 --> 02:17.990 improving its ability to sustain and 02:18.000 --> 02:21.830 conduct continuing operations all while 02:21.839 --> 02:23.809 selectively hardening base 02:23.820 --> 02:26.070 infrastructure against attack and 02:26.080 --> 02:28.520 invoking a combination of concealment , 02:28.889 --> 02:32.160 deception and defenses . This 02:32.169 --> 02:34.391 imperative will be accomplished through 02:34.391 --> 02:36.280 a mix of investments in resilient 02:36.280 --> 02:38.160 forward , basing sustainment and 02:38.169 --> 02:40.699 communications to support strategic 02:40.710 --> 02:44.679 sensing and tactical operations . This 02:44.690 --> 02:47.380 O I furthers the Air Force's agile 02:47.389 --> 02:50.169 combat employment or ace a scheme of 02:50.179 --> 02:52.410 maneuver that calls for a network of 02:52.419 --> 02:54.809 dispersed operating locations that are 02:54.820 --> 02:58.300 resilient to attack . So kind of 02:58.309 --> 03:00.119 setting the stage there for our 03:00.130 --> 03:03.820 discussion . Um Now I'll I'll get into 03:03.830 --> 03:06.052 uh an introduction of , of General Kale 03:06.110 --> 03:07.943 all while you guys are out there 03:07.943 --> 03:10.330 submitting your questions . So Brigada 03:10.339 --> 03:12.450 General Kale is the Commander for the 03:12.450 --> 03:14.617 Air Force Civil Engineer Center or AFC 03:14.617 --> 03:16.617 C . He's just down the road here at 03:16.617 --> 03:18.672 joint base , San Antonio Lackland as 03:18.672 --> 03:21.229 the AFC C commander . He's , he leads a 03:21.240 --> 03:24.979 2200 person organization responsible 03:24.990 --> 03:28.520 for providing responsive flexible , 03:28.529 --> 03:30.696 full spectrum installation engineering 03:30.696 --> 03:33.789 services . A tech missions include 03:33.800 --> 03:36.369 facility investment planning , design , 03:36.380 --> 03:39.020 and construction operation support , 03:39.029 --> 03:40.751 real property management , and 03:40.751 --> 03:43.100 oversight , energy support , 03:43.229 --> 03:44.840 environmental compliance and 03:44.840 --> 03:47.062 restoration and readiness and emergency 03:47.062 --> 03:50.460 management . AFC C conducts operations 03:50.470 --> 03:53.470 at more than 72 locations worldwide . 03:54.259 --> 03:57.190 He also directly oversees execution of 03:57.199 --> 04:01.179 the $3.4 billion annual operations 04:01.190 --> 04:04.679 budget delivery of the $3 billion 04:04.690 --> 04:06.789 annual military construction program 04:07.520 --> 04:10.580 and a $13 billion military housing 04:10.589 --> 04:13.190 portfolio . General Kale entered the 04:13.199 --> 04:15.310 Air Force as a distinguished graduate 04:15.310 --> 04:17.477 of the reserved officer training corps 04:17.477 --> 04:19.618 at Pennsylvania State University . He 04:19.628 --> 04:21.850 has commanded at the squadron group and 04:21.850 --> 04:23.898 wing levels . General Kale has also 04:23.908 --> 04:26.368 served on three headquarters staffs and 04:26.378 --> 04:29.670 as a legislative fellow as a fellow 04:29.679 --> 04:31.846 member of the civil engineering career 04:31.846 --> 04:33.957 field . I can attest to the fact that 04:33.957 --> 04:36.123 General Kale is a , is a legend in our 04:36.123 --> 04:38.346 community and we are truly fortunate to 04:38.346 --> 04:40.568 have him here in this town hall . Thank 04:40.568 --> 04:39.869 you , sir . 04:46.500 --> 04:48.722 Ok , so to get us warmed up , I'm gonna 04:48.722 --> 04:51.809 ask the first question . Um General 04:51.820 --> 04:55.010 Kale . So for those that aren't super 04:55.019 --> 04:58.000 familiar with the term Ace and have not 04:58.010 --> 05:00.970 heard the 5 to 6 fights , uh 05:00.980 --> 05:04.480 discussion or concept . Can you perhaps 05:04.489 --> 05:07.429 give us some perspective on Ace and the 05:07.440 --> 05:11.040 5 to 6 fights ? Absolutely . So good 05:11.049 --> 05:13.140 afternoon everyone . It's , uh my 05:13.149 --> 05:15.690 pleasure to be here . Uh , I , I see 05:15.700 --> 05:17.644 some familiar faces if , if you've 05:17.644 --> 05:19.950 heard part of my spiel here , uh , 05:19.989 --> 05:22.100 sorry , you get to hear it again . So 05:22.100 --> 05:24.267 hopefully you can , uh , maybe come up 05:24.267 --> 05:26.433 here and , and give this speech , uh , 05:26.433 --> 05:28.656 uh , one day . Uh , so a lot of , a lot 05:28.656 --> 05:30.878 of folks have probably heard our , uh , 05:30.878 --> 05:30.850 secretary of the Air Force , you know , 05:30.859 --> 05:33.081 talk about the six fights , uh , that , 05:33.081 --> 05:35.410 that we need to be able to win . Uh , 05:35.420 --> 05:37.698 well , I kind of give a similar speech , 05:37.698 --> 05:40.440 uh , but my , my six fights are , you 05:40.450 --> 05:42.172 know , through the lens or the 05:42.172 --> 05:44.283 perspective , uh , as one of our lead 05:44.283 --> 05:46.506 civil engineers , um , in the Air Force 05:46.506 --> 05:48.489 and , and how we have to , to , to 05:48.500 --> 05:51.339 support that . And , uh , so I'll kind 05:51.350 --> 05:53.572 of , uh , go through that and hopefully 05:53.572 --> 05:55.739 that what that will do is , is kind of 05:55.739 --> 05:57.850 help you maybe understand sort of the 05:57.850 --> 05:59.989 bigger picture the why , uh , behind 06:00.000 --> 06:02.167 what , what we're doing and , and what 06:02.170 --> 06:04.281 we're trying to , to get after here . 06:04.559 --> 06:06.726 All right , so I'll start off with the 06:06.726 --> 06:08.837 first fight . We got to win the fight 06:08.837 --> 06:10.837 in space if we don't win that fight 06:10.970 --> 06:13.026 almost immediately . Things don't go 06:13.026 --> 06:15.149 well for America , we have to have 06:15.160 --> 06:18.880 space dominance uh in space . Um It , 06:18.890 --> 06:21.510 it used to be , uh you know , kind of a , 06:21.519 --> 06:25.489 um a purely civilian um domain now 06:25.500 --> 06:28.809 it's becoming militarized and uh we 06:28.820 --> 06:31.042 have to win . Everything really depends 06:31.042 --> 06:33.109 on space , everything uh that we use 06:33.119 --> 06:35.799 kind of ties uh to our systems up in 06:35.809 --> 06:38.980 space to enable us uh to win our fights . 06:39.179 --> 06:41.609 Spaces connect to test via Cyber . So 06:41.619 --> 06:43.452 it's absolutely critical that we 06:43.452 --> 06:46.230 protect uh those uh cyber lanes or 06:46.239 --> 06:48.517 those cyber links and , and , you know , 06:48.519 --> 06:50.852 from an engineer perspective , you know , 06:50.852 --> 06:53.019 how do we play in space ? Well , space 06:53.019 --> 06:55.075 has to be controlled from the ground 06:55.075 --> 06:57.320 and in , from different locations and , 06:57.929 --> 07:00.040 you know , connected with Cyber . And 07:00.040 --> 07:02.207 so the , you know , the engineers need 07:02.207 --> 07:04.151 to provide installations and , and 07:04.151 --> 07:06.373 facilities uh that are able to , um you 07:06.373 --> 07:08.429 know , bring in those signals and be 07:08.429 --> 07:10.762 able to command and control uh you know , 07:10.762 --> 07:12.762 those sorts of things and the cyber 07:12.762 --> 07:14.929 network that connects all that stuff . 07:14.929 --> 07:16.596 Uh And , and from an engineer 07:16.596 --> 07:18.651 perspective , you know , we have our 07:18.651 --> 07:20.207 electrical nodes or our air 07:20.207 --> 07:22.373 conditioning , our HV AC uh you know , 07:22.373 --> 07:24.373 equipment , our water sources , all 07:24.373 --> 07:26.429 those sorts of things are absolutely 07:26.429 --> 07:28.762 critical to running uh those facilities . 07:28.762 --> 07:30.929 And I will tell you our , if our enemy 07:30.929 --> 07:33.151 uh can beat us because they turn off uh 07:33.151 --> 07:35.373 electrical node that cuts the cyberlink 07:35.373 --> 07:37.596 that prevents us from being able to use 07:37.596 --> 07:39.910 a , a space asset or , or prevents us 07:39.920 --> 07:41.850 from , uh you know , taking off a 07:41.859 --> 07:43.915 fighter jet or blinding that fighter 07:43.915 --> 07:45.970 jet . They would rather do that than 07:45.970 --> 07:47.859 face us , toe to toe on the , the 07:47.859 --> 07:50.420 battlefield . Um You know , America's 07:50.429 --> 07:52.429 proven when you , you fight us , uh 07:52.440 --> 07:55.109 face to face you're gonna lose . Uh So 07:55.119 --> 07:58.670 they got to find other cheaper and uh 07:58.690 --> 08:01.519 um backdoor ways to kind of get after . 08:01.529 --> 08:03.807 Um , uh So that's why , you know , the , 08:03.807 --> 08:05.918 the number one fight in space is , is 08:05.918 --> 08:08.059 critical for us to win . The second 08:08.070 --> 08:10.181 fight we have to win is we got to win 08:10.181 --> 08:12.348 the fight to get to the fight . And if 08:12.348 --> 08:14.459 you are familiar with what's happened 08:14.459 --> 08:16.348 with whether Desert Storm or , or 08:16.348 --> 08:18.514 conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq , we 08:18.514 --> 08:20.737 pretty much were able to bring anything 08:20.737 --> 08:22.903 we want whenever we want , wherever we 08:22.903 --> 08:24.959 want to , that fight , you know , in 08:24.959 --> 08:26.959 the future , we are not going to be 08:26.959 --> 08:29.070 able to do that . Matter of fact , in 08:29.070 --> 08:31.292 many cases , we're either gonna have to 08:31.292 --> 08:33.459 have stuff prepositioned and ready for 08:33.459 --> 08:35.403 us to go to it or we need to bring 08:35.403 --> 08:37.570 whatever we can like on our back or in 08:37.570 --> 08:39.919 one aircraft . We can't have , you know , 08:39.929 --> 08:42.950 huge fleets of , of ships and aircraft , 08:42.960 --> 08:45.127 you know , sailing over , bringing all 08:45.127 --> 08:47.182 sorts of things because those things 08:47.182 --> 08:50.039 will be targeted . Uh We do not have uh 08:50.049 --> 08:52.210 a permissive environment . And so we 08:52.219 --> 08:54.441 really have to rethink how we get , you 08:54.441 --> 08:56.919 know , to the fight . So the third 08:56.929 --> 08:59.520 fight we have is the fight uh to get 08:59.530 --> 09:01.909 into the air . And so you have all 09:01.919 --> 09:04.130 these installations on the ground . Uh 09:04.150 --> 09:06.059 Well , I will tell you the , the 09:06.070 --> 09:08.237 biggest difference that we have from , 09:08.237 --> 09:10.403 you know , when we were in Afghanistan 09:10.403 --> 09:12.403 and in Iraq , uh to now , well , in 09:12.403 --> 09:14.626 Afghanistan , Iraq , I can recall , you 09:14.626 --> 09:16.792 know , kind of one incident where Iran 09:16.792 --> 09:19.014 fired off about a dozen missiles , uh , 09:19.014 --> 09:21.237 at one of our bases there at Al Assad . 09:21.237 --> 09:23.348 And , uh , you know , it had a fairly 09:23.348 --> 09:25.570 significant impact . Well , what I will 09:25.570 --> 09:27.626 tell you in the future fights , it's 09:27.626 --> 09:29.792 not gonna be dozens of missiles , it's 09:29.792 --> 09:31.848 going to be hundreds of missiles and 09:31.848 --> 09:31.390 it's not gonna be missiles kind of 09:31.400 --> 09:33.400 hitting in the area . It's gonna be 09:33.400 --> 09:35.622 missiles hitting the targets . Uh , and 09:35.622 --> 09:37.567 so we have to be , uh , a lot more 09:37.567 --> 09:39.400 resilient and be able to protect 09:39.400 --> 09:41.760 ourselves , uh , and , or diverse , uh , 09:41.770 --> 09:44.219 uh , disperse or confuse our enemies . 09:44.229 --> 09:46.062 So they don't know what the heck 09:46.062 --> 09:48.229 they're shooting at . And if we do get 09:48.229 --> 09:50.340 hit , we do get punched in the face , 09:50.340 --> 09:52.562 we need you all to get up , fix what we 09:52.562 --> 09:54.673 need to do and then get back into the 09:54.673 --> 09:56.896 fight quickly . And so that's the , you 09:56.896 --> 09:59.062 know , number three , the fight to get 09:59.062 --> 10:01.380 into the air , the fourth fight is to 10:01.390 --> 10:03.501 win the fight in the air . And that's 10:03.501 --> 10:05.501 kind of our air superiority fight . 10:05.580 --> 10:07.302 Well , I'll tell you where the 10:07.302 --> 10:09.413 engineers come in to play with . That 10:09.413 --> 10:11.580 is , is that fight is highly networked 10:11.580 --> 10:11.530 and integrated . And a lot of the 10:11.539 --> 10:13.539 operations and intelligence centers 10:13.539 --> 10:16.280 rely on our power and our HV AC uh in 10:16.289 --> 10:18.289 order to , uh to perform . And once 10:18.289 --> 10:20.456 again , that kind of ties back to that 10:20.456 --> 10:22.511 first fight of , of making sure that 10:22.511 --> 10:25.099 our cyber domain is , is protected . Uh 10:25.109 --> 10:27.220 And we have good resilient facilities 10:27.220 --> 10:29.387 that are able to uh connect with those 10:29.387 --> 10:31.498 war fighters and make sure they're in 10:31.498 --> 10:33.442 the right place the right time and 10:33.442 --> 10:33.229 doing the things that they need to do . 10:34.590 --> 10:36.780 The fifth fight is the fight to repel 10:36.789 --> 10:40.690 the uh uh invasion . And that's 10:40.700 --> 10:42.922 kind of the kinetic piece of this , but 10:42.922 --> 10:45.033 it can also be the cyber piece and in 10:45.033 --> 10:47.256 simple terms , it's , you know , taking 10:47.256 --> 10:49.367 a small piece of metal and putting it 10:49.367 --> 10:51.478 on the enemy or it's creating a cyber 10:51.478 --> 10:53.770 effect that knocks out something uh 10:53.780 --> 10:56.002 that the enemy needs and blinds them or 10:56.002 --> 10:58.609 prevents them from doing something . Um 10:58.960 --> 11:01.127 And I will tell you in this fight , we 11:01.127 --> 11:03.349 have a lot more targets than what we've 11:03.349 --> 11:05.429 ever had before and having all these 11:05.440 --> 11:08.099 systems of systems and be able to uh to 11:08.109 --> 11:10.510 process these things very quickly and , 11:10.520 --> 11:12.631 and fast is hugely important and it's 11:12.631 --> 11:14.690 very similar to , you know , the uh 11:14.700 --> 11:17.650 fight , uh you know , in the air . Uh 11:17.659 --> 11:19.492 you know , we need to have those 11:19.492 --> 11:21.603 networks of operations , intelligence 11:21.603 --> 11:23.659 centers , uh all working together to 11:23.659 --> 11:25.770 ensure our war fighter has uh an edge 11:25.770 --> 11:28.390 on the enemy . And then the last fight 11:28.510 --> 11:31.539 is the fight to sustain the fight . Um , 11:31.679 --> 11:34.520 you know , this , this uh uh fight 11:34.530 --> 11:36.641 isn't going to be something that just 11:36.641 --> 11:38.900 lasts 48 hours . If anything , it's 11:38.909 --> 11:41.599 going to be more of a , um , I think 11:41.609 --> 11:43.387 it'll be more opaque , it won't 11:43.387 --> 11:45.609 necessarily be , you know , kind of all 11:45.609 --> 11:47.498 out war . It's gonna be more of a 11:47.498 --> 11:49.553 competition . There might be some uh 11:49.553 --> 11:51.720 combat for short periods of time , but 11:51.720 --> 11:53.942 then there are , you know , there'll be 11:53.942 --> 11:56.109 stalemates . Uh but we have to be able 11:56.109 --> 11:58.331 to resupply and , and make sure our war 11:58.331 --> 12:00.498 fighters have what they need when they 12:00.498 --> 12:02.720 need it where they need it . And so you 12:02.720 --> 12:04.720 get the fight uh to win space , the 12:04.720 --> 12:06.831 fight to get to the fight , the fight 12:06.831 --> 12:08.859 to get to the air , uh the fight to 12:08.869 --> 12:12.869 repel the invasion . Um uh Let's 12:12.880 --> 12:14.991 see , the fight to win in the air and 12:14.991 --> 12:16.824 then you have the uh uh fight to 12:16.824 --> 12:19.047 sustain the fight . So that's kind of , 12:19.047 --> 12:20.824 you know , big picture what I'm 12:20.824 --> 12:22.936 thinking about and what we need to do 12:22.936 --> 12:25.630 um to ensure our airmen win . So I'll 12:25.640 --> 12:27.862 uh let you uh ask some more questions . 12:27.862 --> 12:29.807 You can probably uh deep dive into 12:29.807 --> 12:31.862 those topics . Yes , sir . Yeah . So 12:31.862 --> 12:34.084 that , that's great . And it seems like 12:34.084 --> 12:36.140 in engineers again , engineers are , 12:36.140 --> 12:38.084 are involved in all those fights , 12:38.084 --> 12:40.084 which is , which is really cool and 12:40.084 --> 12:42.251 makes me really proud uh to , to be an 12:42.251 --> 12:44.196 engineer . Um So sir , you kind of 12:44.196 --> 12:46.418 talked a little bit about um you know , 12:46.418 --> 12:48.362 distributed operations , dispersed 12:48.362 --> 12:50.584 locations , maybe , maybe dive a little 12:50.584 --> 12:52.751 bit more into kind of a perspective on 12:52.751 --> 12:54.807 how you're getting after distributed 12:54.807 --> 12:58.090 operations and dispersed locations . Ok . 12:58.270 --> 13:00.559 Um Yeah , so one of the things that , 13:00.570 --> 13:04.380 that what we need to do to um kind of 13:04.390 --> 13:06.557 make it more challenging for our , our 13:06.557 --> 13:08.880 enemy is , is uh we have to confuse 13:08.890 --> 13:11.289 their targeting solutions . And one of 13:11.299 --> 13:13.299 the best ways to do that is , is to 13:13.299 --> 13:15.243 create more targets than they have 13:15.243 --> 13:17.919 things that they can shoot at . And uh 13:18.299 --> 13:20.577 you know , we have a lot of , you know , 13:20.577 --> 13:22.690 large bases uh in the Pacific in 13:22.700 --> 13:24.811 particular and we have a lot of large 13:24.811 --> 13:27.429 bases in Europe in particular . Uh and 13:27.440 --> 13:29.510 when , when the , you know , the gun 13:29.520 --> 13:31.687 kind of goes off , you know , the idea 13:31.687 --> 13:33.576 is , is that , you know , we will 13:33.576 --> 13:35.798 disperse and we'll disperse to multiple 13:35.798 --> 13:37.909 locations . And when we do disperse , 13:37.909 --> 13:40.076 you know , we'll try to spread out our 13:40.076 --> 13:42.131 assets . If we have the ability , we 13:42.131 --> 13:44.187 will , you know , either put them in 13:44.187 --> 13:46.409 hardened aircraft shelters , you know , 13:46.409 --> 13:48.409 put them behind vets or try to hide 13:48.409 --> 13:50.464 them or conceal them um in different 13:50.464 --> 13:53.270 ways . And so that , um you know , 13:53.729 --> 13:55.896 instead of having , you know , maybe , 13:55.896 --> 13:58.118 uh you know , in the Pacific five major 13:58.118 --> 14:00.007 targets where you're , you know , 14:00.007 --> 14:02.062 you're really shooting at , uh , you 14:02.062 --> 14:04.285 know , trying to hit , uh , airfields , 14:04.285 --> 14:06.451 um , fuel sites , you know , locations 14:06.451 --> 14:08.673 where , uh , airmen are at . You know , 14:08.673 --> 14:10.896 now you're having , you know , 30 sites 14:10.896 --> 14:12.840 with , uh , you know , a much more 14:12.840 --> 14:14.729 spread out area of , of different 14:14.729 --> 14:16.729 targets that you , uh , need to get 14:16.729 --> 14:19.062 after . And for us it's a , it's a , uh , 14:19.062 --> 14:21.118 logistical challenge of , you know , 14:21.118 --> 14:21.039 being able to take the folks that you 14:21.049 --> 14:23.216 have at that main site and really kind 14:23.216 --> 14:25.382 of being able to , uh , to spread them 14:25.382 --> 14:27.549 out quickly . And then the other thing 14:27.549 --> 14:29.771 we want to be able to do is , is , is , 14:29.771 --> 14:31.882 you know , maybe they operate in , in 14:31.882 --> 14:33.938 two different locations and they can 14:33.938 --> 14:33.770 kind of , you know , bounce from one 14:33.780 --> 14:35.891 location to the next and then back to 14:35.891 --> 14:37.940 the other , you know , so the enemy 14:37.950 --> 14:39.672 brings , uh , you know , their 14:39.672 --> 14:41.617 satellites around and , you know , 14:41.617 --> 14:43.617 they'll take pictures of things and 14:43.617 --> 14:43.599 they'll see our , hey , our jets are 14:43.609 --> 14:45.890 there . Uh , and then they'll try to , 14:45.950 --> 14:48.006 uh , target those things , but , you 14:48.006 --> 14:50.172 know , when they shoot , we've already 14:50.172 --> 14:52.172 moved over here , you know , that , 14:52.172 --> 14:54.228 that sort of thing . And so for us , 14:54.228 --> 14:56.339 you know , we need to be very light . 14:56.339 --> 14:58.450 Uh , we need to be able to , um , not 14:58.450 --> 15:00.672 have to haul a bunch of equipment . You 15:00.672 --> 15:02.849 know , our engineers are , um , you 15:02.859 --> 15:05.137 know , a lot of things we do . It , it , 15:05.137 --> 15:07.248 it , it weighs a lot , it takes a lot 15:07.248 --> 15:09.526 of space . Uh I mean , we kind of joke , 15:09.526 --> 15:11.989 you know , a cubic yard of concrete is 15:12.000 --> 15:14.469 a cubic yard of concrete . It , it's uh 15:14.479 --> 15:17.099 it's heavy , it's not easy to move . Uh 15:17.109 --> 15:19.109 And so those are things where , you 15:19.109 --> 15:21.387 know , we would love uh innovation and , 15:21.387 --> 15:23.331 and different ways to , to look at 15:23.331 --> 15:26.179 those things . Yes , sir . Um So 15:26.419 --> 15:28.586 getting a lot of questions on energy . 15:28.586 --> 15:30.808 So I think we've got some energy plants 15:30.808 --> 15:33.849 out there . Um So obviously energy is 15:33.859 --> 15:36.192 required in just about everything we do . 15:36.192 --> 15:38.192 You got to power the base , you got 15:38.192 --> 15:40.470 power stuff to make sure we're able to , 15:40.470 --> 15:42.637 to win all those fights . Maybe talk a 15:42.637 --> 15:44.526 little bit about um you know , ee 15:44.526 --> 15:47.739 expeditionary contingency environment 15:47.750 --> 15:49.583 uh and kind of maybe how you see 15:49.583 --> 15:52.130 technology and the innovators out here 15:52.140 --> 15:54.869 uh being able to help in that space to 15:54.880 --> 15:57.590 power our operations . Ok . 15:59.020 --> 16:01.131 So I ask you all to , you know , kind 16:01.131 --> 16:03.020 of , you know , close your eyes a 16:03.020 --> 16:05.729 little bit and , and put yourself um in 16:05.739 --> 16:07.906 an island in the Pacific . There isn't 16:07.906 --> 16:09.961 anything within hundreds of miles of 16:09.961 --> 16:12.010 you on your island , you know , you 16:12.020 --> 16:15.940 have a uh uh an airfield and , you know , 16:15.950 --> 16:18.880 maybe you have a uh a water source 16:19.989 --> 16:22.211 and then what we as the air force bring 16:22.211 --> 16:24.559 there is probably , I don't know , 6 to 16:24.570 --> 16:27.479 12 fighter jets , uh you know , about a 16:27.489 --> 16:31.179 couple 100 people . Uh the ai equipment 16:31.190 --> 16:34.419 that , that's needed to maintain those 16:34.429 --> 16:37.719 jets and , and , uh , um , refuel the 16:37.729 --> 16:40.440 jets rearm the jets , uh , and some 16:40.450 --> 16:42.969 simple facilities to , uh , house 16:42.979 --> 16:45.099 people , uh , and equipment , 16:45.190 --> 16:48.380 communication gear . And so , uh , 16:49.119 --> 16:51.286 you know , that's , that's kind of the 16:51.286 --> 16:53.563 thing in the expeditionary environment , 16:53.563 --> 16:55.786 what we're looking at . Um , you know , 16:55.786 --> 16:57.841 to power , it's not something that I 16:57.841 --> 16:59.897 can run with AA batteries . Uh , you 16:59.897 --> 17:01.952 know , I need more than that , but I 17:01.952 --> 17:04.175 also don't want to be bringing in , you 17:04.175 --> 17:06.286 know , big generators where I have to 17:06.286 --> 17:08.341 haul in fuel and , and you have this 17:08.341 --> 17:10.770 large um supply line or you're , you 17:10.780 --> 17:12.669 know , you're dependent on uh the 17:12.669 --> 17:14.891 supply chain , you know , providing you 17:14.891 --> 17:16.891 things ideally , you know , we want 17:16.891 --> 17:19.058 something small , light , dependable , 17:19.078 --> 17:21.134 something that , you know , hey , we 17:21.134 --> 17:23.356 could , you know , potentially put on a 17:23.356 --> 17:25.522 ac 1 30 with a bunch of other gear and 17:25.522 --> 17:27.928 equipment and our folks fly it in or , 17:27.938 --> 17:30.160 or maybe if it's , if it's a little bit 17:30.160 --> 17:32.216 bigger , maybe it's something that , 17:32.216 --> 17:34.327 you know , that we have prepositioned 17:34.327 --> 17:36.549 and , and , and ready for uh uh for use 17:36.549 --> 17:38.890 when we uh show up . So that's kind of 17:38.900 --> 17:40.956 what I would say . Uh you know , and 17:40.956 --> 17:43.122 especially in the expedition area is , 17:43.122 --> 17:45.439 is uh a mindset or something to uh for 17:45.449 --> 17:47.449 you all to think about , you know , 17:47.449 --> 17:49.560 there in the Pacific . And now what I 17:49.560 --> 17:52.380 would tell you is , is all right , open 17:52.390 --> 17:54.369 your eyes and then just reimagine 17:54.380 --> 17:57.069 yourself that same operation now 17:57.079 --> 18:00.489 happening in Europe and we want , we 18:00.500 --> 18:02.611 have those same aircraft , those same 18:02.611 --> 18:05.579 airmen , the same equipment . Um But I 18:05.589 --> 18:07.700 would argue is that energy solution , 18:07.700 --> 18:09.922 should it be the same , you know , with 18:09.922 --> 18:12.089 what's in Europe ? You know , maybe we 18:12.089 --> 18:14.367 do have a little bit better ability to , 18:14.367 --> 18:16.630 you know , bring in a fuel source or um 18:16.969 --> 18:18.858 you know , if we're able to avoid 18:18.858 --> 18:20.913 bringing in a fuel source , how does 18:20.913 --> 18:23.080 the climate in Europe impact the , you 18:23.080 --> 18:25.136 know , the energy that we're able to 18:25.136 --> 18:27.302 provide uh to that function ? And then 18:27.302 --> 18:29.636 what I would tell you is , is all right , 18:29.636 --> 18:31.560 go now go from Europe and plant 18:31.569 --> 18:34.380 yourself on a base in uh the Middle 18:34.390 --> 18:36.439 East . And I would argue that's 18:36.449 --> 18:38.449 something like kind of in between . 18:38.449 --> 18:40.616 You're not on an island , you're , you 18:40.616 --> 18:42.560 know , you're on a continent , but 18:42.560 --> 18:44.616 you're in the middle of the desert , 18:44.616 --> 18:44.550 which feels like an island and you're 18:44.560 --> 18:47.069 hundreds of miles away from any sort of 18:47.079 --> 18:49.199 supply chains there . You have a much 18:49.209 --> 18:51.320 different environment than Europe , a 18:51.320 --> 18:53.320 lot hotter , you know , maybe a lot 18:53.320 --> 18:55.487 more sun there . So you have different 18:55.487 --> 18:57.820 options or , or , or things to do there . 18:57.820 --> 19:00.030 Um So ideally , the solutions that we 19:00.040 --> 19:02.459 have in the military need to be 19:02.469 --> 19:04.469 flexible , you know , we want to be 19:04.469 --> 19:06.636 able to operate in all three different 19:06.636 --> 19:08.858 locations . Ideally , we'd like to just 19:08.858 --> 19:11.080 buy , you know , one piece of equipment 19:11.080 --> 19:13.619 uh if possible . But um you know , if , 19:13.630 --> 19:15.852 if necessary if it makes more sense for 19:15.852 --> 19:17.908 those different regions , we look at 19:17.908 --> 19:20.339 three different uh solutions , sir . 19:20.349 --> 19:23.069 Thank you . So , uh we're getting some 19:23.079 --> 19:25.380 questions about tactics , techniques 19:25.390 --> 19:28.040 and procedures . TT PS um you know , 19:28.050 --> 19:30.106 the , the things that the airmen are 19:30.106 --> 19:32.383 doing out in those dispersed locations , 19:32.383 --> 19:34.272 whether it's island chains or the 19:34.272 --> 19:36.328 Middle East or uh you know , in , in 19:36.328 --> 19:38.739 eastern Europe . Um Are there things 19:38.750 --> 19:41.400 that AC C is doing today to help uh 19:41.410 --> 19:44.359 improve uh the , the airman's ability 19:44.369 --> 19:46.591 to function in those environments ? And 19:46.591 --> 19:48.647 I'm , and I'm kind of thinking maybe 19:48.647 --> 19:50.480 specifically about the readiness 19:50.480 --> 19:52.647 challenge that we just started up , uh 19:52.647 --> 19:55.530 restarted a couple of years ago . Ok . 19:55.589 --> 19:57.939 Um I apologize if folks couldn't hear 19:57.949 --> 19:59.893 me that well , I'll hold the mic a 19:59.893 --> 20:03.260 little closer to my face here . The uh 20:05.199 --> 20:07.366 you know , one of the things that AC C 20:07.366 --> 20:09.366 uh does is for , um , we have about 20:09.366 --> 20:13.079 51,000 engineers uh in the Air Force 20:13.089 --> 20:15.989 that engineer force , about um about 20:16.000 --> 20:18.310 20,000 of them are civilians and , and 20:18.319 --> 20:20.930 about 30,000 are , are military split 20:20.939 --> 20:22.883 amongst the active guard and , and 20:22.883 --> 20:25.010 reserve . And uh you know , 20:25.020 --> 20:27.869 specifically for the 30,000 military , 20:28.109 --> 20:30.276 you know , we're the ones that kind of 20:30.276 --> 20:33.130 determine what training they get and , 20:33.140 --> 20:35.290 and ensure uh that they're , they're 20:35.300 --> 20:38.310 properly resourced . So that training 20:38.319 --> 20:40.541 starts right after they get their basic 20:40.541 --> 20:42.597 training and they go , you know , to 20:42.597 --> 20:45.040 their uh um technical training , 20:45.050 --> 20:47.300 usually anywhere from three months to a 20:47.310 --> 20:50.589 year and uh there is where they kind of 20:50.770 --> 20:53.000 learn that warrior spirit and get the , 20:53.010 --> 20:55.790 the specific skills uh for an 20:55.800 --> 20:58.680 individual or learn how to be an airman . 20:59.359 --> 21:02.349 Um But what we at AC C do after that , 21:02.359 --> 21:04.470 and I think this is , you know , kind 21:04.470 --> 21:06.692 of the secret soft of the military is , 21:06.692 --> 21:08.748 is , is the training we do to create 21:08.748 --> 21:10.970 teams and , and , and more specifically 21:10.970 --> 21:14.040 military units . Um And , and so we 21:14.050 --> 21:16.050 have a lot of different uh training 21:16.050 --> 21:18.106 opportunities that , that we provide 21:18.106 --> 21:20.329 for them . We have more um you know , 21:20.339 --> 21:22.479 specific uh training courses like , 21:22.489 --> 21:24.656 let's say , you know , with respect to 21:24.656 --> 21:26.600 heavy equipment of learning how to 21:26.600 --> 21:28.489 operate that and , and using that 21:28.489 --> 21:30.433 equipment to , you know , repair a 21:30.433 --> 21:32.656 runway after an attack . And then , you 21:32.656 --> 21:34.545 know , after those basic training 21:34.545 --> 21:36.656 courses , what we wanna be able to do 21:36.656 --> 21:39.800 is see how a unit will operate and , um 21:40.050 --> 21:42.106 you know , being able to do multiple 21:42.106 --> 21:44.050 different skills and , and working 21:44.050 --> 21:46.459 together uh as a military unit . And , 21:46.469 --> 21:48.525 and is what Lowell mentioned , we um 21:48.525 --> 21:50.413 have reinvigorated a thing called 21:50.413 --> 21:52.191 readiness challenge . And , and 21:52.191 --> 21:54.302 basically every year , uh we randomly 21:54.302 --> 21:58.040 pick uh 10 units uh and we 21:58.349 --> 22:01.069 deploy them into , ah Tindal Air Force 22:01.079 --> 22:03.109 Base as they would deploy ah , to 22:03.119 --> 22:05.341 anywhere around the world . And then we 22:05.341 --> 22:07.397 basically run them through . I think 22:07.397 --> 22:09.660 it's eight different challenges where 22:09.670 --> 22:11.781 they have to , you know , prove their 22:11.781 --> 22:14.359 metal and uh you know , after that week 22:14.369 --> 22:16.313 we kind of , uh , obviously it's a 22:16.313 --> 22:18.425 competition and , and those teams are 22:18.425 --> 22:20.480 vying against each other . But , you 22:20.480 --> 22:22.536 know , myself as a general officer , 22:22.536 --> 22:22.500 what I really care about and what I'm 22:22.510 --> 22:24.621 thinking about is how did those eight 22:24.621 --> 22:27.689 teams do , how did they , um , you know , 22:27.699 --> 22:29.910 get from their base to Tindall ? Were 22:29.920 --> 22:32.142 they successful in , you know , packing 22:32.142 --> 22:34.364 up bringing the right things ? Were the 22:34.364 --> 22:36.531 folks ready for the fight when they're 22:36.531 --> 22:38.698 at Tindall ? Did they actually perform 22:38.698 --> 22:38.660 the way that , you know , that we 22:38.670 --> 22:40.780 trained them ? And , uh , you know , 22:40.790 --> 22:43.040 how did they overcome uh , adversity if 22:43.050 --> 22:44.772 we took away certain pieces of 22:44.772 --> 22:46.880 equipment , uh , or didn't provide 22:46.890 --> 22:49.001 certain types of material ? Were they 22:49.001 --> 22:51.168 creative ? Were they innovative , were 22:51.168 --> 22:53.334 able to , to get after things and then 22:53.334 --> 22:55.334 more importantly , you know , after 22:55.334 --> 22:57.446 each event and , and , and looking at 22:57.446 --> 22:59.668 how these units do you know , do they ? 22:59.668 --> 23:01.890 No kidding , accomplish the mission and 23:01.890 --> 23:03.890 sure , uh , you know , they did the 23:03.890 --> 23:03.849 things that they need to do as 23:03.859 --> 23:06.026 engineers so that , you know , fighter 23:06.026 --> 23:08.219 jets can take off or so , uh we can 23:08.229 --> 23:10.780 shoot off missiles or do whatever sort 23:10.790 --> 23:13.920 of military operation uh that we need . 23:13.930 --> 23:16.550 And , and , um , uh , we learn a lot 23:16.560 --> 23:18.727 from that . Uh , we definitely learn , 23:18.727 --> 23:20.893 you know , whether our equipment is uh 23:20.893 --> 23:22.838 holding up or not . I mean , doing 23:22.838 --> 23:25.060 those sorts of activities . It's , it's 23:25.060 --> 23:27.282 uh pretty rough on that equipment and , 23:27.282 --> 23:29.227 and being able to sustain it uh in 23:29.227 --> 23:31.282 those types of environments uh are , 23:31.282 --> 23:33.504 are difficult just to learn how long it 23:33.504 --> 23:35.393 takes , you know , really to , to 23:35.393 --> 23:37.504 perform these difficult tasks . And , 23:37.504 --> 23:39.727 and we really try to take a hard look . 23:39.727 --> 23:41.782 Is there a different way to uh to do 23:41.782 --> 23:44.004 these things ? Is there , you know , uh 23:44.004 --> 23:46.338 ways that we can innovate uh instead of , 23:46.338 --> 23:48.504 uh you know , taking six hours to do a 23:48.504 --> 23:50.504 task is their way to do it in three 23:50.504 --> 23:52.504 hours . And a lot of folks , and in 23:52.504 --> 23:54.560 many cases don't really think um you 23:54.560 --> 23:56.560 know , or what's the big deal about 23:56.560 --> 23:58.782 saving a little bit of time , but , you 23:58.782 --> 24:00.838 know , every minute matters , uh you 24:00.838 --> 24:03.060 know , when you got a missile coming at 24:03.060 --> 24:05.282 you . Uh So , you know , you definitely 24:05.282 --> 24:07.393 uh you know , you want to be fast and 24:07.393 --> 24:10.270 you want to be good . Yes , sir . Um So , 24:10.280 --> 24:12.391 so we're getting some questions about 24:12.391 --> 24:15.739 uh kind of robotics and autonomy . Um 24:15.750 --> 24:18.290 You know , I , I know that the uh AC C 24:18.300 --> 24:22.010 is , is , is spending some energy on um 24:22.020 --> 24:24.510 enabling that capability and using it 24:24.520 --> 24:26.298 for things like , you know , fo 24:26.298 --> 24:28.989 detection for mine clearing for , you 24:29.000 --> 24:31.560 know , for other things . Um I , I , 24:31.569 --> 24:34.280 you know , we've also partnered a works 24:34.290 --> 24:36.068 and AFCA have partnered on some 24:36.068 --> 24:38.123 challenges and we've seen a bunch of 24:38.123 --> 24:40.123 technologies come through that have 24:40.123 --> 24:42.290 robotics and autonomy uh components to 24:42.290 --> 24:44.589 them , I guess , maybe uh you know , I , 24:44.599 --> 24:46.655 I , in , in those fights when you're 24:46.655 --> 24:48.655 doing assessment of the airfield or 24:48.655 --> 24:50.821 you're doing assessments after , after 24:50.821 --> 24:52.766 damage . Uh Right now , the way we 24:52.766 --> 24:54.877 currently do it is we send humans out 24:54.877 --> 24:56.988 there and they look at the spaces and 24:56.988 --> 24:59.099 they report back on a radio or , or , 24:59.099 --> 25:01.210 you know , in person and tell us what 25:01.210 --> 25:03.432 the damage is and then we actually send 25:03.432 --> 25:05.599 humans out to go fix those issues . Um 25:05.599 --> 25:07.766 I guess maybe from your perspective at 25:07.766 --> 25:09.959 AC C , uh how do you see robotics and 25:09.969 --> 25:11.890 automation potentially helping to 25:11.900 --> 25:14.930 enable that piece of the mission while 25:14.939 --> 25:17.170 hopefully keeping uh humans out of 25:17.180 --> 25:20.050 harm's way ? Yeah , that's a , that's a 25:20.060 --> 25:23.479 great question . Um So I'll , I'll try 25:23.489 --> 25:27.380 to um create a venue here or a vignette . 25:27.640 --> 25:29.807 So , you know , just imagine you're at 25:29.807 --> 25:32.770 an air base and , um , you know , you 25:32.780 --> 25:35.209 get a lot of munitions uh shot at you 25:35.729 --> 25:38.489 and you get reports that you , uh , you 25:38.500 --> 25:40.667 know , your run right , your runway is 25:40.667 --> 25:43.869 out of commission and , uh , you know , 25:43.880 --> 25:45.936 you have a bunch of fighter aircraft 25:45.936 --> 25:47.991 parked on the ramp and you need to , 25:48.199 --> 25:50.255 you know , get them up in the air as 25:50.255 --> 25:52.310 quick as possible to , you know , to 25:52.310 --> 25:54.760 get after the enemy . And so , you know , 25:54.770 --> 25:56.937 in the past , you know , what we would 25:56.937 --> 25:59.048 do is we would have damage assessment 25:59.048 --> 26:01.270 teams that would literally , you know , 26:01.270 --> 26:03.437 jump in a vehicle and they would try , 26:03.437 --> 26:06.239 try to drive down the runway . Um , and , 26:06.250 --> 26:08.939 and be able to plot out um , you know , 26:08.949 --> 26:11.880 where everything is , uh , and 26:11.890 --> 26:14.001 everything is , uh , meaning it could 26:14.001 --> 26:16.329 be craters , uh , it can be debris . It 26:16.339 --> 26:18.729 could be small on the runway . It could 26:18.739 --> 26:21.109 be bomblets that haven't exploded . Uh , 26:21.119 --> 26:23.660 it could be , uh , you know , all sorts 26:23.670 --> 26:25.837 of myriad of , of , of different sorts 26:25.837 --> 26:27.837 of hazards . You know , that , that 26:27.839 --> 26:29.950 assessment , you know , you look at a 26:29.950 --> 26:32.172 runway that's about , you know , 10,000 26:32.172 --> 26:34.228 ft , you know , maybe a , you know , 26:34.228 --> 26:36.450 mile and a half , a little shorter than 26:36.450 --> 26:38.617 a mile and a half . Um , you know , in 26:38.617 --> 26:40.783 general and , uh , you know , it would 26:40.783 --> 26:42.895 take a couple of hours and they would 26:42.895 --> 26:46.310 be about 75% . Right . Um , and , and 26:46.670 --> 26:49.359 that's a lot of time to get kind of a , 26:49.670 --> 26:52.069 um , you know , sort of a ok solution 26:52.079 --> 26:54.890 or , ok , information . Well , now , 26:54.900 --> 26:57.178 you know , with , with , uh , you know , 26:57.178 --> 26:59.289 being able to use , um , you know , a 26:59.289 --> 27:01.489 drone , you could literally , uh , you 27:01.500 --> 27:03.739 know , put those up in the air and , 27:03.800 --> 27:06.349 you know , just fly them down , uh , 27:06.359 --> 27:08.415 the runway , they've got a camera on 27:08.420 --> 27:10.969 them and in an ideal world , you know , 27:10.979 --> 27:13.489 you'd be able to use , um , you know , 27:13.500 --> 27:17.310 a I or , or , uh , some , um , you know , 27:17.319 --> 27:19.520 other technologies where , you know , 27:19.530 --> 27:21.979 when that , uh , drone takes the 27:21.989 --> 27:24.211 picture of those sorts of things that , 27:24.211 --> 27:26.267 you know , it automatically , it can 27:26.267 --> 27:28.378 tell like , hey , that's this type of 27:28.378 --> 27:30.545 munition or it can tell , hey , that's 27:30.545 --> 27:33.849 a 3 ft crater , that's 2 ft deep or 27:33.859 --> 27:36.310 it's a 30 ft crater , you know , 20 ft 27:36.319 --> 27:38.989 deep . Uh , and provide you no kidding , 27:39.000 --> 27:41.069 real time data , you know , very 27:41.079 --> 27:43.780 quickly . And then , um , you know , 27:43.790 --> 27:45.846 maybe even provide some solutions of 27:45.846 --> 27:47.790 what's the fastest way to create a 27:47.819 --> 27:49.880 minimum operating strip that those 27:49.890 --> 27:52.140 fighter jets can take off . You know , 27:52.150 --> 27:54.206 if you only have to fix , you know , 27:54.206 --> 27:56.428 5000 ft , you know , maybe a quarter of 27:56.428 --> 27:58.483 your , you know , your runway , uh , 27:58.483 --> 28:00.706 you might be able to do it a lot faster 28:00.706 --> 28:02.817 and , and get those jets up , up into 28:02.817 --> 28:05.630 the air . Um , and , and you can just 28:05.640 --> 28:07.696 go on and on about , you know , what 28:07.696 --> 28:09.862 other technologies , you know , that , 28:09.862 --> 28:11.918 that we can do and in particular for 28:11.918 --> 28:14.560 the explosive ordinance disposal or EOD , 28:14.920 --> 28:17.031 I mean , we've , we successfully used 28:17.031 --> 28:19.253 robots a lot over the past , you know , 28:19.253 --> 28:21.479 two decades to help our , uh , airmen , 28:21.489 --> 28:23.545 you know , stay away from the threat 28:23.545 --> 28:25.600 and be able to , to diffuse things . 28:25.600 --> 28:27.545 Well , there's definitely a lot of 28:27.545 --> 28:29.656 things that , you know , using , uh , 28:29.656 --> 28:31.378 different types of , uh , uh , 28:31.378 --> 28:33.600 equipment , uh , you know , to keep our 28:33.600 --> 28:35.656 airmen farther away but , you know , 28:35.656 --> 28:38.119 eliminate , um , you know , different , 28:38.130 --> 28:40.130 uh , different sorts of threats . I 28:40.130 --> 28:42.186 think probably our biggest challenge 28:42.186 --> 28:44.519 right now is , is , uh , munitions that , 28:44.519 --> 28:46.630 you know , that bore themselves 10 20 28:46.630 --> 28:49.400 ft , um , you know , into the runway 28:49.410 --> 28:51.790 and don't explode and whether they're 28:51.800 --> 28:54.310 timed or not , uh , you know , you 28:54.319 --> 28:56.319 don't know . So you have to kind of 28:56.319 --> 28:59.280 assume they are uh or maybe they go off 28:59.290 --> 29:01.589 with a vibration and , you know , being 29:01.599 --> 29:04.089 able to have , uh you know , things 29:04.099 --> 29:06.210 that can help us , you know , perform 29:06.210 --> 29:08.321 those tasks where every minute counts 29:08.321 --> 29:11.920 matters . Yes , 29:11.930 --> 29:15.599 sir . Um That's ok . Do you , if , if 29:15.609 --> 29:18.400 you wanna mhm 29:20.010 --> 29:23.650 A behalf on operation and a submitted 29:23.660 --> 29:26.319 a requirement for that drone and you go 29:26.410 --> 29:28.632 out to the runway and find it , is that 29:28.632 --> 29:30.799 something that we're actively pursuing 29:30.799 --> 29:33.589 or is that something we say we have 29:33.599 --> 29:35.766 some capabilities that , you know , we 29:35.766 --> 29:37.821 already , you know , have that , but 29:37.821 --> 29:40.439 we're , we are , we do have um I do 29:40.449 --> 29:42.616 believe we have uh what do you call it 29:42.616 --> 29:44.949 a , a requirements document already out , 29:44.949 --> 29:47.209 out for that , working for that . So we 29:47.219 --> 29:50.119 can , I can get you with um our team or 29:50.130 --> 29:52.839 we can get that specifically . Um I 29:52.849 --> 29:55.089 have a Colonel choi uh reach out to you 29:55.099 --> 29:57.900 to provide those specifics . But , but 29:58.439 --> 30:01.170 that being said , uh you know , just 30:01.180 --> 30:03.402 because we have something now , doesn't 30:03.402 --> 30:05.513 mean I don't want something better uh 30:05.513 --> 30:07.736 or if you got better ideas or different 30:07.736 --> 30:09.847 things , that's , that's , you know , 30:09.847 --> 30:12.124 really what I found is , is , you know , 30:12.124 --> 30:14.291 we wouldn't have had that , you know , 30:14.291 --> 30:16.458 some of those drones initially . Uh if 30:16.458 --> 30:18.791 it wasn't for these sorts of events and , 30:18.791 --> 30:20.902 and talking to folks and seeing , you 30:20.902 --> 30:23.069 know , what we could do uh to , to get 30:23.069 --> 30:25.347 after uh these sorts of things . Great . 30:25.347 --> 30:27.402 So , so pulling that thread a little 30:27.402 --> 30:30.119 bit more um partnerships , innovation . 30:30.130 --> 30:32.186 Uh There's , there's ways in which I 30:32.186 --> 30:34.300 think uh we're , we're doing things 30:34.310 --> 30:36.390 within AC C and I MS C to , to get 30:36.400 --> 30:38.770 after innovation . Uh I know that we're 30:38.780 --> 30:41.660 leveraging the Sitter program . Um I 30:41.670 --> 30:43.837 know that we're leveraging a works and 30:43.837 --> 30:46.589 the challenge program , there's diu uh 30:46.599 --> 30:49.109 they've got a CSO commercial solutions 30:49.119 --> 30:53.089 uh opening uh um uh pathway that they 30:53.099 --> 30:55.329 can use to get to some of this 30:55.339 --> 30:57.680 technology . Um Obviously , there are a 30:57.689 --> 31:00.130 lot of uh you know , VC , small 31:00.140 --> 31:02.420 businesses , tech startups here . So I 31:02.430 --> 31:04.859 guess uh you know , gi given some of 31:04.869 --> 31:06.980 the ways that we know are maybe a bit 31:06.980 --> 31:09.147 nontraditional as far as getting after 31:09.147 --> 31:11.500 acquisition and , and technology , what , 31:11.510 --> 31:13.699 what maybe advice would you give to 31:13.709 --> 31:16.579 some of the folks here uh to encourage 31:16.589 --> 31:18.589 them to get involved and , and help 31:18.589 --> 31:22.500 inform our , our problem that , yeah , 31:22.510 --> 31:25.530 I know it can be difficult to uh to do 31:25.540 --> 31:27.709 business uh with the military and the 31:27.719 --> 31:29.775 air force in particular , you know , 31:29.775 --> 31:31.989 we're a very large organization , you 31:32.000 --> 31:34.689 know , over , you know , 330,000 active 31:34.709 --> 31:37.189 duty military plus , you know , throw 31:37.199 --> 31:39.550 in a couple of 100,000 more reservists 31:39.560 --> 31:41.671 and then , you know , another 150,000 31:41.671 --> 31:43.727 civilians , I think it's something , 31:43.727 --> 31:45.838 you know , around 700 so 1000 folks . 31:45.838 --> 31:48.329 So it's a , it's a big business . Um I 31:48.339 --> 31:50.561 will tell you , uh , being plugged into 31:50.561 --> 31:52.829 these sorts of events and , you know , 31:52.839 --> 31:55.006 building your network and , and trying 31:55.006 --> 31:57.250 to understand different problem sets 31:57.260 --> 31:59.482 and , and different requirements and if 31:59.482 --> 32:01.649 you have things , it's , it's really , 32:01.649 --> 32:03.704 uh , you know , really trying to get 32:03.704 --> 32:05.927 the time and , and the ability to , you 32:05.927 --> 32:05.920 know , to be able to show the right 32:05.930 --> 32:09.280 person , uh , you know , that , that 32:09.290 --> 32:11.234 technology so that they see it and 32:11.234 --> 32:13.346 they're like , that's what we need to 32:13.520 --> 32:16.369 uh to kind of get after something . And 32:16.380 --> 32:18.602 I know it , it can be frustrating and , 32:18.602 --> 32:20.713 and challenging at times . But I tell 32:20.713 --> 32:23.030 you , I mean , in , in business , I 32:23.040 --> 32:25.151 know , uh I know when I was younger I 32:25.151 --> 32:27.373 had , I was like a telemarketer for a , 32:27.373 --> 32:29.484 a summer and I think it was , I think 32:29.484 --> 32:31.707 my success rate was something like 1% . 32:31.930 --> 32:34.189 But uh when you had that 1% though , 32:34.199 --> 32:36.800 you , you did pretty well though . Uh 32:39.760 --> 32:41.816 Yeah , you know , click , you know , 32:41.816 --> 32:45.189 but uh uh yeah , anyway , it's , um , 32:45.719 --> 32:47.886 yeah , I , what I tell you is to , you 32:47.886 --> 32:49.941 know , keep trying and , and , and , 32:49.941 --> 32:52.910 and not just the , these sort of , uh 32:52.920 --> 32:54.864 you know , a work events . I think 32:54.864 --> 32:56.920 these things are , this is one great 32:56.920 --> 32:58.920 place but there's a lot of other uh 32:58.920 --> 33:00.920 different , uh you know , for in my 33:00.920 --> 33:00.890 world we have a society of American 33:00.900 --> 33:02.622 military engineers , they have 33:02.622 --> 33:04.844 different conferences and being able to 33:04.844 --> 33:07.011 get in there and , and , and show your 33:07.011 --> 33:09.979 wes uh and , and what you can do um is , 33:09.989 --> 33:11.878 is a good thing and , and kind of 33:11.878 --> 33:14.100 building that network and getting folks 33:14.100 --> 33:16.211 to understand your uh your technology 33:16.390 --> 33:18.790 uh is , is hugely important . We have a 33:18.800 --> 33:21.069 lot of ability to try things and test 33:21.079 --> 33:23.079 things out . I think that's another 33:23.079 --> 33:25.310 thing that a works uh does great . And 33:25.660 --> 33:29.560 um one thing that we uh we really are , 33:29.569 --> 33:31.513 are proud about and , and actually 33:31.513 --> 33:33.513 Lowell was , was , was part of this 33:33.513 --> 33:36.189 team before he came to a works is uh at 33:36.219 --> 33:38.560 Tindall . Uh Many of you are aware that , 33:38.569 --> 33:40.680 you know , hurricane uh Michael , you 33:40.680 --> 33:42.847 know , kind of wiped uh Tindall pretty 33:42.847 --> 33:45.229 much off the map and uh we're coming 33:45.239 --> 33:47.461 back and rebuilding Tindall and , and , 33:47.461 --> 33:49.683 you know , with the mantra that's going 33:49.683 --> 33:51.850 to be the installation of the future . 33:51.850 --> 33:54.017 And what we mean by that is , is , you 33:54.017 --> 33:56.128 know , not that it's gonna be uh gold 33:56.128 --> 33:58.859 plated or uh the best of the best . Um 33:58.869 --> 34:00.813 You know , what we're , what we're 34:00.813 --> 34:02.702 doing is , is really , you know , 34:02.702 --> 34:04.647 reaching out to industry and , and 34:04.647 --> 34:06.869 trying to find different technologies , 34:06.869 --> 34:08.925 testing them out . And then the ones 34:08.925 --> 34:11.147 that we like and that work and that are 34:11.147 --> 34:13.147 effective we exploit across all our 34:13.147 --> 34:15.500 other um you know , installations . And 34:15.510 --> 34:18.040 so , um you know , that's , you know , 34:18.050 --> 34:20.217 that's definitely another area where , 34:20.217 --> 34:22.409 you know , love to see your wars or be 34:22.419 --> 34:24.979 able to test things out . Um You know , 34:24.989 --> 34:27.100 if you have something that that would 34:27.100 --> 34:29.322 be of use for us . So , um yeah , I , I 34:29.322 --> 34:31.530 just , I , I appreciate you all coming 34:31.540 --> 34:34.540 here , you know , keep uh uh trying to 34:34.550 --> 34:36.772 show us what you got and , and really , 34:36.772 --> 34:38.994 I think it's important that you kind of 34:38.994 --> 34:41.161 understand our why and connect to that 34:41.161 --> 34:43.217 and , and , and be able to explain , 34:43.217 --> 34:45.217 you know , how your technology will 34:45.217 --> 34:47.383 make our airmen more successful in the 34:47.383 --> 34:50.620 fight . Yes , sir . Um So I guess , uh 34:50.629 --> 34:54.580 kind of keeping on that vein . Um So 34:54.590 --> 34:56.812 you've been in command now for a year . 34:56.812 --> 34:58.979 Uh Obviously a lot , it probably feels 34:58.979 --> 35:02.310 like more than a year , like seven 35:02.320 --> 35:04.560 years or something . Um And I know that 35:04.570 --> 35:06.792 there's a lot of demands on your time . 35:06.792 --> 35:08.848 Um There's a lot of , of things that 35:08.848 --> 35:11.070 are happening across AFCA , across I MS 35:11.070 --> 35:13.649 C I guess maybe . Uh do you want to 35:13.659 --> 35:16.189 talk about what your priorities for 35:16.199 --> 35:19.280 next year are ? Do you have a kind of a , 35:19.290 --> 35:21.234 a set of things that you're really 35:21.234 --> 35:23.457 trying to get after that that the folks 35:23.457 --> 35:25.790 here could potentially help with ? Yeah . 35:25.790 --> 35:27.846 No , I uh thanks for that question . 35:27.846 --> 35:30.068 Yeah , it's funny you hit the ear point 35:30.068 --> 35:32.290 and , you know , everyone starts asking 35:32.290 --> 35:34.512 you , uh you know what you want to work 35:34.512 --> 35:36.734 on and I'm like , I've been here a year 35:36.734 --> 35:39.012 already . I hope you already knew that . 35:39.012 --> 35:41.179 But , uh you know , this is a uh a , a 35:41.179 --> 35:43.346 new crowd here and I'm , I apologize . 35:43.346 --> 35:45.568 I'm not trying to make fun of Lowe here 35:45.568 --> 35:47.790 or uh anything like that . But um I , I 35:47.790 --> 35:50.479 will tell you , we have , um I mean , 35:50.489 --> 35:54.030 we have almost , I would say 35:54.040 --> 35:57.399 26 to $30 billion in the 35:57.409 --> 35:59.179 works for different types of 35:59.189 --> 36:01.250 construction projects uh around the 36:01.260 --> 36:05.120 world , in particular . Um You know , 36:05.129 --> 36:06.962 we're recapitalizing the nuclear 36:06.962 --> 36:09.199 enterprise . Uh you know , the whole , 36:09.209 --> 36:12.330 all the um Minuteman three 36:12.889 --> 36:14.870 weapon system is gonna go away and 36:14.879 --> 36:16.657 we're gonna replace it with the 36:16.657 --> 36:18.879 Sentinel . And while we're doing that , 36:18.879 --> 36:21.129 we're gonna be on full alert the whole 36:21.139 --> 36:24.570 time , uh we're redoing the B 20 or 36:24.580 --> 36:28.399 building up the B 21 bed down , we're 36:28.409 --> 36:30.439 finishing up the , the joint strike 36:30.449 --> 36:33.709 fighter uh bed down , we got KC 46 . Uh 36:33.719 --> 36:36.050 We have a lot of work um you know , in 36:36.060 --> 36:37.838 the Pacific and in the European 36:37.840 --> 36:40.080 theaters to uh support combat 36:40.090 --> 36:44.000 commanders . And uh yeah , we have , we 36:44.010 --> 36:46.010 have uh a lot of challenges keeping 36:46.010 --> 36:49.800 projects on time on budget and uh you 36:49.810 --> 36:52.032 know , any way that folks can help us , 36:52.032 --> 36:54.199 whether it be , you know , kind of new 36:54.199 --> 36:56.719 technology and , and being able to 36:56.729 --> 36:59.520 construct things faster or being able 36:59.530 --> 37:03.379 to use uh A I or uh data 37:03.389 --> 37:06.500 engineering or analytics to enable us 37:06.510 --> 37:08.860 to minimize errors and , and , and 37:08.870 --> 37:11.148 really kind of look at that , you know , 37:11.148 --> 37:13.314 sort of program and , and execute it a 37:13.314 --> 37:15.260 lot more effectively . Uh That's 37:15.270 --> 37:17.270 definitely something that um I'm 37:17.280 --> 37:19.502 interested in and then , oh , the other 37:19.502 --> 37:22.100 part too is , is if folks have , um , 37:22.469 --> 37:24.358 better ways that , that we can do 37:24.358 --> 37:26.413 business , I mean , if you were to , 37:26.413 --> 37:29.040 you know , print out the far of the 37:29.050 --> 37:31.370 construction or the , the regulations 37:31.379 --> 37:33.546 that , you know , we have to follow in 37:33.546 --> 37:35.490 order to put a contract out on the 37:35.490 --> 37:37.657 street . I think if we stacked it up , 37:37.657 --> 37:39.712 it'd be taller than little and , and 37:39.712 --> 37:41.935 it'd probably be two piles of paper . A 37:41.935 --> 37:44.157 matter of fact , uh , you know , that's 37:44.157 --> 37:46.379 how big our rulebook is and we have the 37:46.379 --> 37:49.780 ability to do um uh um innovative 37:49.790 --> 37:52.030 efforts of , of trying to deliver new 37:52.040 --> 37:54.949 capability . Uh And , and , and that 37:54.959 --> 37:56.959 innovative effort can be , uh , you 37:56.959 --> 37:59.181 know , a new construction process and , 37:59.181 --> 38:01.348 you know , one area where we're really 38:01.348 --> 38:03.515 trying to look at , at doing that is , 38:03.515 --> 38:05.737 you know , delivering dormitories , you 38:05.737 --> 38:05.209 know , we have airmen that live on 38:05.219 --> 38:07.739 every installation , um , you know , 38:07.750 --> 38:09.917 similar to , you know , like a college 38:09.917 --> 38:12.139 campus , you know , they have their own 38:12.139 --> 38:14.194 room and , and bathroom and a little 38:14.194 --> 38:16.417 kitchenette , but we struggle at , uh , 38:16.417 --> 38:18.639 you know , maintaining those facilities 38:18.639 --> 38:20.806 and , and , uh uh we'd like to be able 38:20.806 --> 38:22.861 to , you know , turn to industry and 38:22.861 --> 38:24.917 how would you , you know , run a , a 38:24.917 --> 38:27.194 dor dormitory portfolio and , and , uh , 38:27.199 --> 38:29.350 you know , make it world class . Uh , 38:29.810 --> 38:31.477 but , uh , you know , keep it 38:31.477 --> 38:33.679 affordable , uh from an energy 38:33.689 --> 38:36.729 perspective . Uh We have a lot of 38:36.739 --> 38:38.810 opportunity there I'm very proud of 38:38.820 --> 38:40.987 what our team is doing , the Office of 38:40.987 --> 38:43.260 Energy Assurance in uh Washington DC . 38:43.889 --> 38:46.780 Um I mean , we are for the most part 38:46.790 --> 38:49.840 agnostic to just about any sort of uh 38:50.129 --> 38:52.240 you know , energy source . But what I 38:52.240 --> 38:54.351 will tell you is we have a , a lot of 38:54.351 --> 38:56.580 focus on uh geothermal and uh 38:56.590 --> 38:59.550 definitely looking at , at trying to um 38:59.860 --> 39:02.310 be able to exploit that and use that at , 39:02.320 --> 39:04.510 at multiple installations , looking 39:04.520 --> 39:06.631 really hard at uh you know , hydrogen 39:06.631 --> 39:09.860 technologies . Um But we also have a 39:09.870 --> 39:13.159 small modular reactor um uh 39:14.080 --> 39:16.489 pilot going on up in , up in Alaska . 39:16.500 --> 39:20.090 We just built uh uh the largest solar 39:20.100 --> 39:23.010 slash storage plant in , in California 39:23.020 --> 39:25.320 and the largest in the world . Uh So 39:25.330 --> 39:26.830 there's a lot of different 39:26.830 --> 39:29.290 opportunities there . Uh But I , I will 39:29.300 --> 39:31.522 tell you just , you know , for me and , 39:31.522 --> 39:33.633 and , and in my perspective on that , 39:33.633 --> 39:35.633 like , you know , what I care about 39:35.633 --> 39:37.744 energy resilience is , is when I look 39:37.744 --> 39:39.856 at a , an installation , it's at risk 39:39.856 --> 39:41.967 if we're tied into the grid and being 39:41.967 --> 39:44.078 able to have our energy sources on or 39:44.078 --> 39:46.530 near our installations uh is hugely 39:46.540 --> 39:48.629 important to me . And then the other 39:48.639 --> 39:50.750 thing , you know , when you have to , 39:50.750 --> 39:53.028 if you're bringing in fuels , you know , 39:53.028 --> 39:55.139 now you've got a supply chain issue , 39:55.139 --> 39:55.110 you know , so ideally , you know , the 39:55.120 --> 39:57.830 sustainable technologies uh or things 39:57.840 --> 40:00.062 that you can handle right there on site 40:00.062 --> 40:03.350 are a huge military uh application . 40:03.949 --> 40:06.469 And so , uh , you know , a lot of folks 40:06.479 --> 40:08.479 will hear that , you know , the Air 40:08.479 --> 40:10.590 Force has a climate action plan and , 40:10.590 --> 40:12.590 and it's a little frustrating , you 40:12.590 --> 40:14.701 know , half the country thinks that , 40:14.701 --> 40:14.449 hey , it's great . You know , you're 40:14.459 --> 40:16.681 saving the planet and the other half of 40:16.681 --> 40:18.903 the country thinks , you know , we're , 40:18.903 --> 40:21.126 you know , it's a political , uh , uh , 40:21.389 --> 40:23.719 joke that we're wasting our time and , 40:23.729 --> 40:26.439 and effort on , on those things . But , 40:26.479 --> 40:28.701 you know , I , I really try to focus on 40:28.701 --> 40:30.879 the , the military uh application and 40:30.889 --> 40:33.000 the importance of that resiliency and 40:33.199 --> 40:35.639 uh sustainability and , and I think no 40:35.649 --> 40:37.816 one will argue that piece . And what's 40:37.816 --> 40:40.038 amazing is , is uh you know , the types 40:40.038 --> 40:42.093 of things that are , that , that are 40:42.093 --> 40:44.038 most important in the military are 40:44.038 --> 40:45.871 actually sustainable and climate 40:45.871 --> 40:48.093 friendly . So I think that's , that's , 40:48.093 --> 40:50.316 that's a huge piece . I think those are 40:50.316 --> 40:52.538 probably the two biggest areas that I'm 40:52.538 --> 40:54.593 really focused on here for the , the 40:54.593 --> 40:56.816 next year . I don't know if there's any 40:56.816 --> 40:58.760 other things you'd like me to talk 40:58.760 --> 40:58.449 about or ? Yeah . No , that's , that's 40:58.459 --> 41:01.040 great . Um you know , kind of in the 41:01.050 --> 41:04.360 interest of uh time and then also maybe 41:04.370 --> 41:06.370 weaving in several of the questions 41:06.370 --> 41:08.426 that we're getting here , you know , 41:08.426 --> 41:10.648 obviously tech startup , small business 41:10.648 --> 41:12.703 um interested in some of the , maybe 41:12.703 --> 41:14.481 the , the newer capabilities or 41:14.481 --> 41:16.648 technologies that we're exploring . So 41:16.648 --> 41:18.759 I know at Tidal , um speaking of that 41:18.759 --> 41:20.981 being AAA bit of a test bed for some of 41:20.981 --> 41:22.926 the things that we're , that we're 41:22.926 --> 41:24.981 trying out . I know that we did some 41:24.981 --> 41:27.203 additive manufacturing some 3D printing 41:27.203 --> 41:29.259 there . Um I know that uh we're also 41:29.259 --> 41:31.259 trying to meet General Richardson's 41:31.259 --> 41:33.426 intent with digital transformation and 41:33.426 --> 41:35.481 trying to get after get after that . 41:35.481 --> 41:37.703 And so we , we built a , a digital twin 41:37.703 --> 41:39.592 there at , at 10 , maybe . Talk a 41:39.592 --> 41:41.814 little bit about um kind of how you see 41:41.814 --> 41:41.570 some of those capabilities or 41:41.580 --> 41:44.479 technologies informing the a mission . 41:47.979 --> 41:51.129 Yeah , so um as I was mentioning , you 41:51.139 --> 41:53.361 know , we do these tests at , at Tindle 41:53.361 --> 41:55.306 and , and we kind of look at those 41:55.306 --> 41:57.417 things and , and really we try to see 41:57.417 --> 41:59.750 like , hey , how can this be applied at , 41:59.750 --> 42:01.750 at other bases and , and the things 42:01.750 --> 42:04.083 that I look at is , is , you know , one , 42:04.083 --> 42:06.083 how does it , you know , reduce the 42:06.083 --> 42:08.195 amount of airmen that I need to , you 42:08.195 --> 42:10.139 know , work , you know , lack of a 42:10.139 --> 42:12.306 better term , maybe some mundane tasks 42:12.306 --> 42:15.780 or repeatable tasks uh or um uh 42:15.790 --> 42:19.320 destructive tasks . Um There's a lot 42:19.330 --> 42:21.497 of value , especially like the Digital 42:21.497 --> 42:24.709 twin , you know , if you uh uh have it 42:24.719 --> 42:27.239 set up properly where , you know , it's 42:27.250 --> 42:29.361 not just about , you know , having it 42:29.361 --> 42:31.583 for the , the design of your facility , 42:31.583 --> 42:33.417 but you can use it to train your 42:33.417 --> 42:35.639 firefighters . Uh You know , they don't 42:35.639 --> 42:37.694 have to necessarily walk through all 42:37.694 --> 42:39.861 sorts of , of different facilities and 42:39.861 --> 42:41.917 you be using that Digital twin , you 42:41.917 --> 42:44.139 can create different scenarios and they 42:44.139 --> 42:46.250 get used to , you know , being in the 42:46.250 --> 42:45.850 different facilities on your 42:45.860 --> 42:48.919 installations and you can create um uh 42:48.929 --> 42:51.590 you know , real lifelike uh scenarios 42:51.600 --> 42:53.600 of , of , you know , that will help 42:53.600 --> 42:56.389 them train . Uh you can help a plumber , 42:56.479 --> 42:59.010 you know , find a , a leak that might 42:59.020 --> 43:01.187 be in , in a wall or something because 43:01.187 --> 43:03.242 they're able to , you know , use the 43:03.242 --> 43:05.409 digital twin and , and kind of find uh 43:05.409 --> 43:07.631 those sorts of things . But the biggest 43:07.631 --> 43:09.687 challenge though , for us is , is be 43:09.687 --> 43:12.020 able to take that , that technology and , 43:12.020 --> 43:14.298 you know , we have facilities that are , 43:14.298 --> 43:16.520 you know , I mean , anywhere from , you 43:16.520 --> 43:18.742 know , most of them are around 50 years 43:18.742 --> 43:20.798 old , but , you know , anything from 43:20.798 --> 43:22.909 zero to , you know , 100 and 50 years 43:22.909 --> 43:24.964 old , how do you bring all that data 43:24.964 --> 43:28.449 and , and pull it together and , and , 43:28.459 --> 43:30.681 uh , and then create these things in an 43:30.681 --> 43:32.792 affordable manner that we can do this 43:32.792 --> 43:34.792 at , you know , at all different uh 43:34.792 --> 43:36.792 installations . And so , yeah , for 43:36.792 --> 43:38.848 every , you know , technology that , 43:38.848 --> 43:40.959 you know , that we're looking at it , 43:40.959 --> 43:40.429 it , it Tindle layer . Those are the 43:40.439 --> 43:43.419 types of things . Uh Another 11 that , 43:43.429 --> 43:44.985 you know , Lowell worked on 43:44.985 --> 43:47.639 specifically is our installation . What 43:47.649 --> 43:50.510 is it ? Uh uh I rock the installation , 43:50.520 --> 43:52.742 uh readiness operation Center , I guess 43:52.742 --> 43:54.964 Brazilian Operation Center . You know , 43:54.964 --> 43:57.139 that one is , um , you know , pretty 43:57.149 --> 43:59.149 amazing . We actually have a lot of 43:59.149 --> 44:02.850 other um uh career fields like wanting 44:02.860 --> 44:05.027 to try and , and , and tap into that . 44:05.027 --> 44:07.082 But it's , it's just basically , you 44:07.082 --> 44:09.082 know , using all this data that you 44:09.082 --> 44:10.971 have around your installation and 44:10.971 --> 44:12.860 pulling it all together and , and 44:12.860 --> 44:15.138 creating a sight picture of , you know , 44:15.138 --> 44:17.304 what's going on uh your base and , and 44:17.304 --> 44:19.582 to me in a crisis management situation , 44:19.590 --> 44:22.270 um you know , that , that data is 44:22.280 --> 44:24.399 hugely valuable but there's a lot of 44:24.409 --> 44:27.620 other 2nd , 3rd , 4th order benefits of 44:27.629 --> 44:29.550 um you know , by connecting in a 44:29.560 --> 44:31.727 certain way , you know , you create uh 44:31.727 --> 44:33.838 another layer of cyber security and , 44:33.838 --> 44:35.979 and being able to defend uh your 44:35.989 --> 44:38.370 networks and , and , and a lot of other 44:38.379 --> 44:40.546 different things that , that you can , 44:40.546 --> 44:42.768 can do there . I don't know , you might 44:42.768 --> 44:44.935 have a couple of things you might want 44:44.935 --> 44:46.935 to add on that . Give the general a 44:46.935 --> 44:49.157 minute here to catch his breath . Yes , 44:49.157 --> 44:51.490 sir . Yeah , I , I think actually we're , 44:51.490 --> 44:51.320 I , I'm getting the , the hook here . 44:51.330 --> 44:53.497 Um And , and I would love to , I would 44:53.497 --> 44:55.719 love to talk more about I rock . That's 44:55.719 --> 44:57.941 like one of my favorite things . Um But 44:57.941 --> 45:00.360 uh thank you all for coming out , sir . 45:00.370 --> 45:02.537 Thank you very much . I know that your 45:02.537 --> 45:04.537 time is very valuable , so I really 45:04.537 --> 45:06.759 appreciate you coming out . Thank you . 45:06.759 --> 45:08.981 Yeah . Thank you very much , everyone . 45:08.981 --> 45:08.659 I , I wish you all the best .