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Good morning A USa Welcome to

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Warriors Corner Day one . Our first

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presenters topic is by soldiers for

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soldiers building an organic soldier

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lead software development capability in

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the army presenters include Lieutenant

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Colonel veto . Eriko , Director of Army

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Software factory . Army Futures Command ,

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First Lieutenant Michael David ,

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Military Project Product Manager ,

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First Lieutenant Ammand Shaw . Military

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application Engineer and staff Sergeant

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chris paulie , military platform

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engineer .

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Hey , good morning everybody .

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Everybody hear me okay . Alright ,

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first of all , thank you for joining us

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for the inaugural Warriors Corner

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presentation . It's an absolute honor .

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It appeared to be representing General

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Murray and Sergeant Major Crosby and

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all of the army futures command team .

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Some of you might be wondering what the

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army software factory is and we're here

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to talk about that as we do that I

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would ask you to think about and

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consider two questions as we talk about

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everything that the software factory um

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potentially provides the army . The

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first one How to industrial age

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organizations up skill and re skill

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their talent to dominate in an

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information age . The second question ,

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how does the army prepare its soldiers

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for a future operating environment ?

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That's going to ask commanders to make

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better and faster decisions among an

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increasing amount of data streams and

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information flows . That's what we

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think the software factory . Does it

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answer those two questions . Let's go

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to the first time . Some of you , maybe

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you wonder where did this come from ?

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Uh it comes from ? Like the secretary

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talked about during her keynote , an

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incredible amount of analysis . Uh not

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by the army or not Buy futures .

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Command . um but by multiple bipartisan

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non part of partisan groups from across

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the federal government , Integrating

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software engineers and data scientists

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to the leading edge should not be a

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controversial issue in 2021 . How about

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the next slide ? What does it mean for

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the army ? Well , like we kind of

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talked about as commanders face an

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increasing amount of data streams to

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make decisions at the nipper sipper J

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Wickes and commercial internet levels .

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Somebody's got to be at that last

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tactical mile to make sense of all that

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information . We're not so sure we're

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gonna be able to move contractors

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around the battlefields in the same way

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that we were able to do so in Iraq and

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Afghanistan and we certainly think in

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the age , in the information age it's

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time to start investing in soldiers who

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have the skill sets already . Let's go

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to the next line .

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Ultimately , the army software factory

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nested with the chief information

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officer of the army and the enterprise

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cloud management agency of the

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underneath the C . I . O . Is about how

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do you produce an autonomous

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application or product team that's

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capable of prototyping , developing and

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getting a solution on an operational

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network at the edge of the battlefield

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that we can't prepare them to do . Now

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we don't know what commanders might

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need them to do . So we've got we've

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got essentially plan for ambiguity and

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plan for unpredictability and by

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investing in this competence for

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soldiers . Now we can begin to invest

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in the future . At the end of the day ,

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we all kind of see one off solutions

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that get built across the army . Both

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the software factory is about doing is

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building an enduring and scalable

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capability for soldiers across the army

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again . Well , necid with H . P . D . A .

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With the chief information officer of

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the army and with the enterprise cloud

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management agency . Let's go to the

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next one . So what's so special

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about upscaling and re scaling a

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workforce for the information agent ?

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How do we do it ? Well , we had this

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idea that there's probably a lot of

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software development talent in the army

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that the army didn't realize it has

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this morning , the secretary talked a

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little bit about the race for talent .

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We're a big part of that . We thought ,

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let's start doing some soldier

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interviews and seeing how many soldiers

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across the army would be interested in .

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Agile dep , sec , ops , agile software

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development platform engineering , all

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these sort of not so emerging

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technologies that Silicon Valley and

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private industry have sort of figured

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out that the army needs to begin

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investing in a big way . And you might

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not be surprised to realize That we

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after about 3000 soldier touchpoints ,

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we discovered a completely untapped

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market of soldier talent . And it was

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abundantly clear to army leadership at

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that point that the army had an

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opportunity here to put that talent to

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work and um , we've got some of them ,

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they're going to be talking a little

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bit later after I'm done . But you can

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imagine where should the army be

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investing some talent when it comes

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time to the choice of truck driver or

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software developer , combat medic or

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platform engineer . We've got such

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amazing talent in the army that can be

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re scaled , that's mislabeled , that's

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underutilized that we can put towards

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emerging technology skill sets . So

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what we do is , uh , we've been getting

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about 250-350 fully qualified

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applications every six months . We

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assemble a cohort of soldiers , uh ,

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and put them towards lines of effort

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like product management , user design ,

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application engineering , platform

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engineering . And we , and we baseline

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their skill sets . We choose about 25

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of them to be a part of five

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application teams , uh , in a sort of a

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paste bi annual process . Once they get

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that technical accelerator , we bring

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them in and we pair them with Silicon

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Valley experts . Not so that they can

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hold their own expertise , but they can

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begin to learn to how to work as a

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Silicon Valley product team , just like

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we might see in some of our favorite

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Silicon Valley companies , but really

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it's the teamwork , it's learning how

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to prototype a solution that they

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weren't handed and prescribed the exact

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answers ahead of time . It's again ,

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it's that planning for ambiguity factor

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at the same time , We're teaching them

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how to build for a production

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environment . And that gets back to our

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relationship with the as we co develop

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our platform with the Chief information

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officer and the enterprise cloud

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management agency by teaching them how

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to build for production . We sort of

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underwrite a lot of the risk that we

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see going on across industry and across

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the army and how to build a deficit

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cops capability that that has yet to

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really be um championed . We're going

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to hear a little bit more about that

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afterwards . So the whole idea then now

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you've got about a year's worth of

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experience in a variety of different

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ways is now you have these , these

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soldiers that can then in turn and turn

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around and train the soldiers that come

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after them . So again , every six

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months , it gives us this cohort model

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that allows us to sort of like like

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agile software development to build

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measure and learn . That's the

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fundamental idea here is how do we grow

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this in a self sustaining way ? Um ,

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that's that's sort of the special sauce

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there and you get an idea for , for how ,

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how much across the whole army that

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were really pulling . Um , a variety of

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mos is a variety of ranks . We didn't

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really care and this is key , We didn't

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really care what rank you were or where

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you went to grad school . In fact , we

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probably thought most of our soldiers

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didn't need to go to grad school to be

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able to code and they , most of them

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have not . So we have soldiers

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everywhere from the rank of private

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first class all the way up to major .

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And the idea is to put rank aside and

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promote ideas . Uh , because you can

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imagine just as much as what a private

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first class can learn from a captain ,

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you can imagine what that captain can

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learn from that private first class .

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And that's the fundamental ideas as we

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consider how the army should invest and

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institutionalize expertise in emerging

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technologies . Let's go to the next one ,

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the third part of the software factory ,

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right . We have the human talent

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management component , We've got the

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technology component , but we've also

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got the component of it that sort of

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forges relationships with , uh , non

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traditional industry with the tech

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industry , uh , with the traditional

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defense industry and that's a big part

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of what we're doing down in Austin . So

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every week we're hosting lunch and

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learns , we're hosting talks from

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Microsoft from facebook from google .

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Uh , and the soldiers are getting

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exposed to that sort of problem solving

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process that Silicon Valley has , has ,

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has sort of championed . Um , and we're

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sort of leveraging the fact that the

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software factories in such a phenomenal

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location like Austin where right down

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the road or the headquarters of google

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facebook and Tesla , right up the road

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is the UT McCombs School of Business

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and then that leads us to national

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partnerships with a lot of the

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companies that are here today . Let's

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go to the next slide please .

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But I would also kind of point out to

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everybody here today that's listening

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is that we have a tendency to sort of

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plan things in a vacuum and we build in

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a way that hey , everything is gonna be

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great in the next two years . We didn't

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do that in this case , just like agile

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software development . We sort of , we

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sort of learned as we went and so we

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were building a proof of concept

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project as we developed the concept for

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the wider software factory project .

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And so this proof of concept project

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was built in conjunction with the Chief

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Information Officer of the Army . It

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was built in conjunction with the

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enterprise cloud management agency . It

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was built with soldiers at Fort Hood

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and Army material command . And what we

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quickly realizes everything about . The

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software factory should be well nested

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with operational and army wide partners

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and that's really a key to success . So

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ah , we just sent soldiers up to Fort

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Hood to observe what could happen in

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logistics warehouses across the army .

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And the beautiful thing about the army

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is those logistics warehouses are sort

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of all standardized . So if we can

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solve a problem for one logistics

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warehouse , we could solve a

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potentially solve a problem for all

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logistics warehouses and by monitoring

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soldier behavior . And this gets us

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into a lot of the top line talking

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points of user centered design , which

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is really soldiers center design . And

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then the idea of the software factory

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is taking soldiers center design one

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step further and co developing with

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soldiers to make sure you're getting

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the projects right . Um we found out

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that we could automate something that

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was inherently manual at the at the

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warehouses using accredited def sec ops ,

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pipelines and platforms . Again through

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co development with the army C . I . O .

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Um we were able to fast track a

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solution to the field that hadn't been

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able to get out there despite the fact

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that people have been requesting it .

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And as you can see there , the big the

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big number about 3500 soldiers hours

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safe per per S . S . A . Across the

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army uh is something that we're really

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proud of . And so we took all the

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lessons learned , the good things and

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the bad and that informed the concept

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development of what became the army

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software factory . Let's go ahead and

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go to the next slide . So , uh

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current status is , we've got cohort

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one . I talked a little bit about the

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cohort of soldiers that we bring on

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every six months . So cohort one is

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through their technical accelerator

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phase there , through their discovery

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and framing phase and they're already

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coding solutions to army problems with

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partners across the army and these are

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some of the partners that we're doing

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um cohort two . Uh They're finishing up

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their technical accelerator and they'll

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be starting their , their pairing phase ,

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uh , right after thanksgiving , cohort

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three will be here in december and then

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cohort four pending HRC S approval .

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They'll be in , they'll be in Austin

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next summer . So without further ado ,

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I want to let you hear from some of the

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soldiers and as as they come up and

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they talk to you about their projects ,

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I want you to think about the fact that

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the army did not sign them up to be

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software developers , they self

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selected in because they had the

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aptitude and the attitude . And I think

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what we've proven out here is that , uh ,

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a little bit of organic capability will

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go a long way towards informing a lot

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of policy that the army creates over

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the next couple of years as we consider ,

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like the Secretary said this morning ,

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uh , dominating in an information age .

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So , uh , Lieutenant Richelle David ,

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don't you come up and introduce

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yourself to the crowd . Hello everyone .

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I'm Lieutenant Michael David ,

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originally an engineer officer , I

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guess I still am . And uh , I'm

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originally from new york and I'm a

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product manager on team mocha . Can you

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go to next slide please ? Thank you .

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And so on . The problem in Argentina

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mow cop As it stands today . National

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Guard reservists . Uh , they , so

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600,000 people who want to apply for

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and volunteer for active duty jobs , it

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is incredibly difficult for them to do

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that . And so me and my team , we

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partnered with the G 357 , the Chief of

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the Army Reserves and the National

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Guard Bureau as well as other hiring

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managers across the army to find out

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what our soldiers experiencing . That

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makes this process so difficult . And

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we found is that the existing tool tour

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of duty , it's only accessible on

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Nipper , which means that most National

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Guard reservists can't access it . They

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need to go physically to the nearest

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either post or armory or something that

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is able to , you can go on a government

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computer and go on nipper to access

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Tour of duty , which is incredibly

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difficult even to see what is even

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available . But we also found is that

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once they do find something that

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interests them , the process to

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actually get that job is incredibly

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manual . They need to physically pick

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up a phone or email someone in order to

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move their packet along . And this

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process takes a long time and people

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often give up because it's so difficult .

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And what's what we found most baffling

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is that the army owns this data , they

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own the existing code . And so what me

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and my team are here to do is to

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overhaul your duty and produce a

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solution that soldiers can use in the

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palm of their hand . Next slide please .

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So our solution , Correra enables

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soldiers to view open positions from

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anywhere on their other , their

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personal phone or their computer uh in

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a secure way . they can uh find jobs

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that they're eligible for since not

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they're not eligible for every single

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job . So find jobs that they're

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eligible for jobs that they actually

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want to apply for and by doing so uh

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what we hope to accomplish is getting

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uh matching tops older talent with top

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jobs in a way that's prompt and

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personalized so that we can better

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manage the talent that already exists

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in our force . And so the army is ready

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to mobilize and I will hand it back to

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Colonel Eriko to talk about the next

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project . Thanks . Yeah ,

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So unfortunately , uh let's go to the

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next time . Uh Thanks to the Southwest

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Airlines , the person that was going to

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brief this like can't be here right now .

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But what we're doing is we're

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continuing the work from the proof of

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concept with Army Material Command and

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uh potentially looking at how soldiers

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engage in the preventative maintenance

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checks and services process , which as

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many of us I think that are listening

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here no , is the lifeblood for how the

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army maintains its equipment at the end

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user level . There's a lot that

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technology can provide um in sort of a

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simple scalable way that the soldier

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perspective will uniquely inform And so

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we have a team dedicated towards

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working with Army Material Command ,

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working with units up at Fort Hood ,

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Fort Riley um in understanding how

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soldiers are using the equipment and

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then what we could potentially meet

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them with halfway as the army fields

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larger systems um let's go to the next

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slide and let's bring up lieutenant on

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on shaw .

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So the model of the software factory is

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by soldiers for soldiers . Last year ,

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Sergeant Major Grinstein asked us to

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build a digital tool that empowers

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squad leaders . The bluff of our

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project is that we've built an

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accredited army tool for soldiers ,

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personal devices . Sergeant Major

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Grinstein kept our charter vague like

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Lieutenant Colonel Errico said we're

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planning for ambiguity . He simply

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requested that we ask what soldiers

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want and we build that so that's what

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we did every week since the inception

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of our team , we've had touchpoints

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from soldiers and squad leaders from

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Fort Hood and Fort Lewis about what

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they need . We learned that a company

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of 150 soldiers oftentimes is assigned

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only 15 laptops . We learned that staff

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duty rosters will oftentimes get lost

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in a WhatsApp group chat . We also

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learned that a squads day to day

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schedule isn't just affected by what's

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on a chalkboard at the platoon office ,

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but also by last minute appointments

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and Taskings . So some takeaways ,

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soldiers don't have consistent access

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to the existing army provided tools so

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they use third party systems on their

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personal devices like WhatsApp and

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google drive . We hope to decrease this

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task and schedule volatility so squads

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can focus on readiness and cohesion .

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So based on their feedback , we set out

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to build a solution with them . next

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slide please . Soldiers guided us as we

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built a web app that allows soldiers to

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pool and assigned tasks , manage unit

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events and personal appointments and

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share their digital counseling packets

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right now . The lack of access to legit

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army tools , forces soldiers to conduct

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and coordinate army businesses on

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unaccredited third party applications

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which we can't control and which can go

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down to any time . Like we saw last

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week our app meets

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soldiers where they are on their

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personal cell phones and it's still a

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work in progress . We still gather

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feedback every week and we need more

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so for members of the army family .

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Come find us at the futures command

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Booth will on board you to the app and

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you can join the team that's building

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the my squad app by soldiers for

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soldiers . Our app is built on an

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accredited army platform which has

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worked on by engineers such as staff

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sergeant Polly who's gonna come up next

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Good afternoon . I'm Steph Sarah Polley

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and I'm the platform engineer for a

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software factory . Formerly I was a

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cyber security analyst at Fort Hood and

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prior to that or satellite

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communications And after 12 years of

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service , I would have never thought I

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would be here working def sec ops

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ecosystem for software factory for the

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army and our product that we built next

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slide please is a sorcerer

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and with this product is a credit

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secure kubernetes based platform that

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hosts our army applications and we

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provide a path to production for these

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applications . The process to go from

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inception to authority to operate was

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typically around two years and we

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reduce that time 3-6 months with our

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product Sorcerer

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traditionally an app team without the

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source , our product , they will own

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everything in the grain on the left ,

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which is the build process , the

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security controls the infrastructure

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networking , but with the source our

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product , we handle all that for them .

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We enable our application developers to

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focus on coding . This is possible

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through a variety of innovative tools

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such as kubernetes and the use of

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automation . I've used this word two

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times now kubernetes , not many people

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know what it is , it's a very new tool

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less than four or five years old if you

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have any , if you want to know more

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information about it , you come to our

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booth at the Army software factory .

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Once the app team is in production

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teams continuously integrate and deploy

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their code as such a rapid pace if they

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want to fix uh boat bug fixes and

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features , quickly integrating

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changes into the production provides an

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incredible value enabling our

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developers to get software into the

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hands of soldiers hands faster

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and thank you

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thanks to absorb early . So at we're

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going to open it up to questions and so

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we started getting warmed up um but

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before we do that , I want to just sort

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of clothes on . Remember those two

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questions I I opened with about how

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does the army think about going from an

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industrial age workforce to an

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information age workforce . And then

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how does the army help commanders

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operate in a future environment of

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increasingly complicated communication ,

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sweets , weapons platforms ,

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information streams and data streams .

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So again the software factory up skills

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re skills , soldiers who have the

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talent who have the desire in modern

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application engineering and software

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development were institutionalizing

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those practices so that we're not just

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building this one time , we're opening

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it up for the army to build , build

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more widely and that's under

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consideration at HQ . Today . Right now

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we're leveraging modern technology

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through close partnership with the army

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C . I . O . And the def . Sec ops

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ecosystem that the army C . I . O . Is

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championing so that we can put

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technology to work for everyday

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soldiers so that we can actually build

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applications faster . And then lastly

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leveraging the unique location of

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features , command with respect to all

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the tech companies in Austin with the

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modernization efforts down there at the

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headquarters as well as Fort Hood .

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Just being right up the road , uh sort

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of sort of a perfect storm for the army

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software factory . So really appreciate

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everybody's attention . It was very

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much an honor to be able to go first

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for the warriors corner at this year's

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A U . S . A . And welcome any and all

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questions anybody has . I think we have

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a mic in the back for anybody that

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wants to ask .

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Thank you very much . That was a

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fantastic presentation . Should be very ,

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really proud of the progress that

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you've made with the United States

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Armies . Global force Information

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management system and enterprise

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business systems convergence . Both

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adopting and piloting low code

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platforms . How do you see low code

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platforms being integrated into the

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software factory ? Thank you . You guys

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okay if I take this one . Okay . Uh So

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I think you know low code is obviously

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pretty , pretty popular right now . Um

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some things to think about for low code

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is that there are a lot of discrete

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solutions out there . So for , you know ,

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the army is a customer's perspective .

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It's hard to pick just one and I'm not

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a contracting officer , I'm not an

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acquisition officer . Um I do think

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that the work being done by the deficit

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cops uh ecosystem underneath the chief

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information , the army , the platform

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work that sergeant , staff sergeant

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paulie is doing is providing the policy

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guidance and the security accreditation

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precedent . So that as the army feels

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those kinds of things , you know ,

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cyber security is sort of a reciprocal

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or there's a reciprocity associated

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with cyber security across the D . O .

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D . Which you're obviously aware buy us

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trail blazing a path with the C . I . O .

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Of the army bringing on low code

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solutions or proprietary solutions .

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We'll get through the fed ramp process

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faster . It'll get through the D . O .

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D . Accreditation process faster . And

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so that's another great part that we

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didn't really mention is the faster we

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can bring on third party applications

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that more to the army will benefit from

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that as well . Great question .

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Thank you . Um you noted that the size

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of the cohorts right now are about 25

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personnel . Is any thought being given

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to increase the size of those just to

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kind of increase the pipeline and the

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throughput of the folks you're training

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a great question . What I can say right

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now is this is very much a software

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factory itself is very much a pilot and

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it's built to learn from , if that

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makes sense . Um There's a lot of

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lessons to be gleaned about talent

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management , a lot of lessons to be

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gleaned about technology . And so it's

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not until this experiment's done , are

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we going to be able to to maybe think

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think about how to scale it more widely ?

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I'd be interested to see what the

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cohort members think about the size of

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the cohort . Do you guys feel it's a

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pretty intimate experience ? You're

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getting enough attention . Head nuts .

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Okay . Mhm . Thanks for the question .

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I think we have a couple more minutes .

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If anybody wants to ask anything ,

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there's a question somewhere over here .

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Yeah , I veto

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over uh the talent aspect of this is

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critical . And so for probably for the

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cohort here and and the future cohorts ,

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they're assuming some individual risk

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with their career progression in all

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these different mos is to build

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software . What's the on ramp or off

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ramp for them into a new mos and or

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what's the army ? What's the check the

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army is going to write to them for

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their ability to have a career in the

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army after three years of building

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software away from their M . O . S . So

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it is kind of a problem for my team and

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I know it's gonna , thanks for the

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question cory . Uh So um what I can say

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it's sort of like the last question .

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Um we're sort of well aware that

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everything that we do is going to

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inform the creation or the creation of

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new army policy and practices about how

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we handle talent . Again the secretary

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said this morning we're in a race for

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talent . This is very much a part of

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the question that you just asked . Um

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So the H . P . D . A . Is considering

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all options here . Um I think that you

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know a lot of people recognize the army

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doesn't want to make this type of

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investment and doesn't want to lose

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these kinds of soldiers . And so the

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thought is how do we how do we best do

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that long term to your point and

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hopefully we can help inform that

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process .

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I saw the companies listed on your one

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slide how can other companies help ? Is

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there still room ? I thought you'd

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never ask . Um So that is not an

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exhaustive exclusive list . That's just

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an idea of some of the companies . Uh

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so we try to have industry interaction

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in a couple different ways . We talked

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a little bit about coming in person

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down to Austin and doing lunch and

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learns or demonstrations with the

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soldiers . Uh , what we didn't really

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talk about is built into the experience .

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Covid hasn't helped much , but we're

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gonna get there about 30 to 60 day ,

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many internship we call them mini

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versions uh , to to vendors or the

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industry that's interested in hosting a

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soldier for that amount of time . Um ,

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and then of course there's there's

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plenty of opportunities across uh the

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army to connect to you um for for other

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things . So there's a spot on our

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website . If you're an industry that

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wants to contribute to the

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collaboration going on at the software

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factories , you can do that or you come

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by the booth and we'll trade contact

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information there and you can always

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visit the Army Software factory website

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at the army features command dot com

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slash software dash factory . Yeah .

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Yes , ma'am .

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I'll repeat it . Thank you so much .

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I just wondered if you look to the

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other services um , for lessons learned ,

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especially the Air Force and maybe the

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level of code works , which I think is

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in Austin near you . Yeah . Oh , santa .

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Um , just kind of for their experience

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and kind of how you're building your

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fantastic question . Um I'm sort of uh ,

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happy to report um the process that

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informed everything that we just talked

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about Uh included about 12 to 15 months

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what I kind of call a market analysis

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or industry analysis and that that

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included to your point about the other

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services , what they're doing . The

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idea of incorporating service members

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into the application development

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process is not new , right ? What's new

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about it is putting building them into

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it long term and to invest in the

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people component , not just the

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technology component . What we saw as

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we looked at some of the other services

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was that they were doing really well

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for the initial service member

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involvement , but how to build it in

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longer term . That was something that

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had yet to be decided by any service .

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And so as we were conceptualizing it ,

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we were thinking how long could we ,

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could we realistically keep a soldier

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and build it soldier first or service

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member first . And so the soldiers that

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come to the software factory as part of

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the experiment , the pilot that we've

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been talking about , they're there for

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three years . So whereas other services

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do the 179 day T . D . Y . Uh we've got

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a whole whole unit full of people

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staying for three years and that will

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help lose a lot of , you know ,

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ameliorate a lot of the institutional

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turnover that goes on a great question ,

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ma'am actually . And let me also add ,

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that's the human component , the

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technology component , you know , the

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Air Force did a great job codifying the

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continuous RMF process , the risk

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mitigation framework process . Uh and

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that's directly inform a lot of the def

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sec ops um environment of the Army C .

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I . O . The enterprise cloud management

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agency and then us have have all sort

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of co developed . So again ,

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cybersecurity comes out to precedent

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and reciprocity and that that was a big

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part of it . So we couldn't have done

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that without them beat .

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I'll be your last question if you want .

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So obviously the software factories up

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and running right . You've got great

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initial success . Are you efforting

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with project convergence ? Uh

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Ridgeway A I two cc five s are to kind

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of provide some connective tissue

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across the space . Yeah . So uh there's

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a lot to say about the connective

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tissue and what I would go back to is a

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lot of the policy that we're building

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um with H . P . D . A regarding

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cybersecurity processes . So the shared

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services . Uh We're in a we have a

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multi cloud offering in both Azure and

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AWS the shared services that create um

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which is which is championed by the

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enterprise cloud management agency

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underneath the Army C . I owe all of

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that tech stack accreditation stuff is

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going to serve as the fabric across all

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of the efforts that we're starting to

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see because they're all built on the

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idea of the more rapidly you can get

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feedback on to an operational network .

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The more important it is for the army .

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So I think we're pretty happy that

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we're anchoring that entire process and

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serving as a basis for the shared

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services there . We can also report

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kind of like we talked about everything

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that we do is has more than one partner .

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We got multi partners for every single

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aspect , whether it be platform

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application or in the human talent

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management fields . Um So I would say

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ah there's sort of no limit to the , to

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the collaboration that's going on .

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Thanks so much for doing this . Um I

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guess I'm wondering what's the duration

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of the experiment ? What are the

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decision points along the way ? Um And

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when do you expect HQ d a to to make

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decisions about whether to expand this

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or make it permanent ? Thanks . So the

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experience from the soldier's

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perspective is three years . The first

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phase is about 5-6 months . The second

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phase is another six months and then

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two years on top of that helping to on

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board and train follow on soldiers

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coming in in this emerging technology .

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So those are each one of those

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represents a decision point for me is

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the director is a soldier worth

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continuing to invest in . Are they

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right fit ? Because this is obviously

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not for everybody , not just from an

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emerging technology technical sense ,

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but it's can you work as a team ? Uh do

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you understand what we're trying to do

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here ? Um You know software is no

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longer sort of like a guy or a girl ,

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the hooded sweatshirt and uh you know

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your you know your phones in the back

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like we see in the movies it's a team

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sport and the army's gonna train it as

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a team sport and build it as a team

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sport which is why we do those small

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product teams . Um So people can't

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participate in that then you know

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that's not the right spot for them . Um

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And then with respect to H . P . D . A

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far be it from from me to be able to

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put a timeline on H . P . D . A . But

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I'm I'm hopeful we'll hear something

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here in the next couple of months .

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Oh God I think one more here , if we

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have time for one more , I can't stop

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with . Hello , are you hear me ?

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Lot of clear ma'am . Yes I have a

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question . I saw that you

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also mentioned there about design

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of programs to losing the field

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during soldiers operations , correct ?

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Say that one more time for me man . Mhm .

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I'm talking about tough world that is

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not for administrative task

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but for operations in the field .

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Okay . My question is

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I know that the expert ties of a

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person to perform . If you give

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it was really gives value to the use of

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a prop work but for example if

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I asked you , I need to know , I

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need to know if

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we improve the efficiency , the

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reliability of the tank for example ,

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which has stopped well about

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15% or 25% .

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How you can help me to perform an

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evaluation so that we can know the

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financial um dead

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reliability results if we

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implement that change . Okay . That's

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all a study . You're performing a study

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with the help of your , of your people

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that do uh develop programs but I

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am a manager and I want to know ,

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okay , I try to do a test and I want to

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know how much For example the

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10 , I can improve the reliability

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of an equipment that is using a soldier

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that have expert tights who use this ,

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that equipment . I want to know that

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because I want to know the financial

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impact , how much money I need to do

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that in all the army and I want to

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have a document to add the needed

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budget . Can you ?

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I think I think I understood some of

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the question ma'am . I think the

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headline is uh that we're certainly

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operating not just in an administrative

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sense but also in a tactical sense . Um

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and that there's plenty of people

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around the army like the army test

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evaluation command that are working on

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problems that you just described . And

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if I didn't get it right , please come

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to the software factory booth right on

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the other side of this wall and we'll

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sit down and talk about . I'm so sorry

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man , I'm also getting the hook uh ,

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pending general Murray's guidance . No ,

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and I usually don't make guest

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appearances at these , but for these

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guys , I will . So um , everything you

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just heard was an idea two years ago

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and two young majors and we promoted

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one of them , uh , put this together in

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in two years and that the talent we

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have in the army , it's just absolutely

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incredible . I was told when we started

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this , you don't have that talent , You

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gotta go buy it , you gotta go higher

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it , you gotta go find it , you gotta

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go recruit it . We have the talent .

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These kids are just incredibly talented .

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And the question you ask is what people

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ask me all the time . What keeps me

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awake at night that keeps me awake at

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night is we have the talent , we can

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develop the talent and now we've got to

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figure out how to retain the talent

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because these kids will make a

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significant difference from both an

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administrative and on the future ,

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future battlefield someplace . And then

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this has nothing to do with industry ip ,

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This is all about solving problems that

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I have walked past for the last 40

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years that our soldiers have each and

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every day that we can make a

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significant impact on our soldiers now

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into the future . Just by harnessing

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the town we've got . So just a hats off

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to . This is one half of the wonder

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twins . So veto and Jason zuniga is the

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other half of the Wonder Twins and ,

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and really it's on their shoulders that

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stood this up and it's just an

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incredible experience .

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Come visit us at the software factory

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booth , we're out of time . Thank you

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again for paying attention . I really

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appreciate it and sort of , thank you

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for that guest appearance . See

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everybody .

