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All right , good evening everybody . My

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name is Mr Mercado and I'm with the 27

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special operations wing public affairs

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team on the call with this tonight are

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all of those that are both uh community

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individuals and uh those from the

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military base here at Cannon . And we

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are welcome to have you were happy to

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have you join us in our quarterly P

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four P . Fola call update . So before

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we get started I'd like to make a

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couple of introductions . So first and

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foremost I would like to introduce

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everyone on the call to our new

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commander . Colonel Colonel Taylor has

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been with us since this summer , um

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taking the helm run around the end of

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june or early july , we're very excited

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to have him here at Cannon and we'd

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like to introduce you to him before we

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get started . So Colonel Taylor , would

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you like to say a few words ? Thanks Mr

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I appreciate it . Hey , uh really

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quickly just want to welcome everybody

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to the call . Mayor Morris , Good to

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see you uh all the community members ,

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representatives from the local and

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national government uh and our fellow

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Air Force partners here , welcome to

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you all just by way of cricket

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reduction as misty said , uh just

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stepped into the 27 South Command City

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at the end of july and since then have

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been getting familiar acquainted

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educated on the current environmental

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PFS situation along with our mitigation

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efforts on the U . S . Air Force side .

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I think the big thing for me that I'd

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like to relay with that is just the

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renewed or continued commitment to the

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community . We are absolutely committed

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partners in this effort to level the

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information and to be responsive . You

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know , we are with approximately 7800

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employees here on base in another over

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14,000 affiliated with the base . We

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are absolutely a part of the community

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here . So we , we have a vested

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interest to and in ensuring that this ,

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this situation is resolved on a

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personal note . My family lives here on

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the installation as well as over 500

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military families . And so we're also

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interested in ensuring that we have

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clean consumable water for the health

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and the well being of everyone . So

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moving forward again , you know , we're

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just committed to continuing our

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quarterly updates here and to make sure

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everyone has access to the most up to

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date in current information possible .

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So with that I'll turn it over to mayor

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Morris for any opening comments that he

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has . Thank you

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appreciate that Colonel Taylor

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greetings to you and and the team that

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Cannon , our friends and neighbors that

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can appreciate that . And also closed

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everyone who's joined the meeting this

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evening from the port Alice or or

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closed communities and uh , echo the

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sentiments uh , that you're talking

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about Colonel taylor when you talk

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about the partnership between the

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community and can in fact , I just

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consider us friends and neighbors

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considered canon , uh , mortality close

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to be uh , one community . And in fact ,

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and so , uh , you know , appreciate

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that spirit in which you bring this .

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Uh thanks for for the update . I'd like

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to think those that are going to

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present in advance for your update this

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evening . Uh as you can imagine as

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mayor and speaking on behalf of the

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citizens of Clovis , we are we are

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growing more and more anxious to hear

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you know meaningful uh solid

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information in these updates . And so I

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think in advance for that and we look

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forward to hearing more detail about

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the plan for mitigation um as well

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as uh you know , the progress being

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made against that plan . So again ,

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thanks in advance to the presenters for

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the update and thank you for the time

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this evening .

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Okay , so just a couple of things real

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quick so that everybody is familiar

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with how this , how we're going to

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facilitate tonight's meeting . Um we

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have chris kirky that's with us from

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the Air Force civil engineering . Uh he

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is going to be the one who is going to

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host the information on the slide deck

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that you have in front of you . Now ,

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if you have questions we ask that you

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hold your questions until the end of

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the call . You may also use the chat

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feature that's on zoom to be able to

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input any questions that you have or

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that you want asked . So the questions

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that you do put in the chat call , we

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will be asking of chris allowed at the

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end of his presentation so that

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everybody gets an opportunity to hear

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both the question and the answer . The

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only other thing that we ask you is to

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please make sure you keep your phone on

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mute so that we're not disturbed

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background noises and hold your

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questions till the end of the call and

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we look forward to the update . So

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chris I'm gonna turn it over to you .

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Thank you misty .

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Oh come on .

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Okay so again my name is Christopher

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Gherkin . Many of you may know me but

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for those that you don't and are new to

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this meeting , I'm the remedial project

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manager here at Cannon Air Force Base

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responsible for the restoration program

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and heading up the project management

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for RP fast investigation . So with

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that we'll get into going over our

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slides today and I wanted to start off

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with our engineering evaluation , cost

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analysis , pilot study and give a brief

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update where we're at . And again what

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this is as part of the Comprehensive

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Environmental Response compensation and

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liability act . Or commonly heard as

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circle it and ECA is required to

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satisfy our environmental review

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requirements for any interim responses .

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So what that means is as we're going

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through this investigation before we

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are able to execute any interim

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responses before the final

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investigation is completed . We must

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complete this zika . So this completes

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that administrative requirement that we

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must check that box . Now with this we

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also were able to tie in a pilot study

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which is going to be a small scale

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treatment system that's entirely on

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base and I'll talk a little bit more

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about that in the next slide .

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Okay , so with our

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pilot study , these two pictures here

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show a little bit of the give a little

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bit of the understanding of why we

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chose the location that we did and pick

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the pilot study for this echo . So on

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the left side you will see contours of

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our aquifer and you can see the green

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shaded area are deeper paleo channels

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and then on the right it's going to

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show you that groundwater flow

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direction which is generally flowing in

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the southeast direction . And then

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those small orange dots on the

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southeast border of our base are the

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larger concentrations of p fast impact

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that were discovered during our site

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inspection of RP fast investigation .

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So taking all three of those together ,

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we decided that that would be the prime

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location to put this pilot study and

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what that pilot study is going to do

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for us is gather additional information

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to put into that zika and give us a

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better , well rounded Eca which at the

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end of that what that zika is going to

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provide to us is a list of different

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opportunities and different what's the

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best interim response that we

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can put in place here at Cannon Air

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Force Base based on the information we

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have currently , the other thing that

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this treatment plant is going to do for

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us is it's going to have a lot of the

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infrastructure there . So at the end of

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this process , if the eca does tell us

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that a full scale pump and treat system

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is the most viable option to treat the

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aquifer will have a lot of the main

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infrastructure there . And what I mean

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by that is this building will be built

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in a way that it's flexible . So if we

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need to full scale it up we don't have

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to build another building , it's

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already there , we'll just put more

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extraction wells and injection wells

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and we can expand it very rapidly . Now

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with this the water will be taken out

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of the ground and treated at the

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treatment plant and then be reinjected

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back into the aquifer to go back and

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replenish that . So in it will be a net

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zero effect on the aquifer Excel .

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Now where we're at in this project in

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the whole is we have awarded it , we've

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completed our initial site visit and

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kick off meeting , they've completed

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their sampling event and they have also

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completed the work , plans for both the

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aquifer test and the treat ability

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study which they are currently in the

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process of doing the treat ability

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study which that portion is going to

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tell us whether a granulated active

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carbon or an ion exchange or a

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combination of the two is going to be

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the best method for treating the

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groundwater and then they will be

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actually starting field work for the

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aquifer test here within the next week

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or two . So we are rapidly moving

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through this process . Once those two

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stages of this are done they will take

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that data and then put it into the

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design phase where they're going to

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come up with the best pilot study for

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this . And again keeping in mind as

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they design this , making sure that the

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in product will be flexible so that way

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when the final echoes there again , if

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it tells us that a full scale pump and

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treat system is the best option we can

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go right into that and expand this

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system fully . Uh huh . Uh

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huh . Now for an update where we're at

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with our remedial investigation we have

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completed our work planet has been

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finalized as of September one fieldwork

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will be commencing shortly . I

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currently have my contractor mobilizing

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on base and getting their operations

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set up here . First field work to be

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completed will be off base while

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sampling and soul sampling and with

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that it's very important for everyone

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to understand that the landowners must

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give permission before samples can be

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collected . So right now we're working

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on those access agreements that both

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the base and the landowners must sign

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before I can get my contractors out

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there to collect these samples and

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again that is very important because

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that's going to help us into the next

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stages of where would be the best

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places to put our new groundwater

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monitoring wells off base . Yeah ,

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uh huh . With

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that again , just to kind of reiterate

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the air force's commitment and focus on

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investigating the p fast impact here

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at Cannon , both on and off base . This

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is , it's about $31 million dollars

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that has been spent to date . And as we

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go through this process , these numbers

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will increase and as we continue

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through these quarterly public meetings ,

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you'll see additional costs that will

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be added to this .

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Now with our , I wanted to touch back

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because uh we have finalized this , I'd

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like to thank those members of the

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community that respond to the rab

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solicitation based on those results .

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The decision was made not to establish

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a rabbit this time . A full MFR can be

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found at the address that shown , but

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in short , the results of the rab

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solicitation substantiates the

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community's interest in PFS impact .

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And we remain committed to ongoing

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quarterly public meetings for

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transparency , public participation in

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the benefit of the community . And

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again , I want to reiterate that we

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have our remedial investigation . Field

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work is starting our co pilot study is

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the first step towards implementing an

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interim response which will both be

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continued to discuss thoroughly

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throughout all of these quarterly

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public meetings and these meetings are

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going to go on throughout the entire

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investigation process and cleanup

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process through this .

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So and then just to kind of wrap it

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back up going forward again , the eca

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pilot study were at the aquifer test

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and the treat ability study phase those

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two once completed those are going to

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go into our design build phase portion

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of it are remedial investigation . We

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have contractors that are mobilizing in

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the field as of yesterday that

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fieldwork will start off base with the

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well samples and soil samples and again

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getting the landowners to give us

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permissions is a must before we can

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collect those samples and then further

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determine what that nature and extent

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of the plume is . And again all this

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information that we gather from this

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room medial investigation will also be

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filtered back into the Ika and fully

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inform what all kinds of interim

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responses that could potentially be

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taken . And then our next quarterly

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public meeting right now is tentatively

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planned for December 15 of 2021 . I'm

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going to try to keep these meetings as

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consistent as I can so they should be

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hopefully happening that same middle

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week Wednesdays of each of the same

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months as they've been happening so far .

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Now I know last time that we had this

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meeting there were several questions

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that were brought up about the ability

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to see the work plans with those being

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finalized . They have been uploaded to

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the aft check they are and so these

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slides will both be available on the

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recorded version of this at our p a

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website on the environmental tab and

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then also the recording of this and the

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slides will both be there . Now we have

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the R . I . Work plan that will be

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uploaded shortly but I've already

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earmarked that are numbers so that way

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you'll have it and it will be easy to

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reference and then the aquifer test ,

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work plan and the treat ability study

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work plan have both already been

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uploaded there for your reference

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and then again from our first meeting

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it was requested that we would continue

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to have common acronyms at the end and

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I'll continue to have those and if we

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find more that are commonly used we'll

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continue to update that for anyone that

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needs it . So with

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that again I appreciate everybody's

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involvement with this . And one thing

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that I did also want to say before we

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open it up for questions is uh feedback

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any input on how we can grow these

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meetings because this is a community

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involvement meeting here is for not

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only for me to involve the community

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and give you all updates on where we're

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at but I would like feedback to on what

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you would like to see so that way we

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can continue growing these and keep

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these valid for everyone . So with that

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I will open it up for questions and we

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can go from there chris before we get

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started we do have a question from Mr

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Pyle . Um the question in the chat room

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is how many landowner agreements have

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you got signed on samples and how many

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are still pending ? Is that a question

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that you have readily have an answer

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for ? Right now ? There are 10

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agreements that are being routed

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through the wing for signature once

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those have been completed and they

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should be completed here fairly soon .

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Will be going out to those different

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landowners to take it to them . So this

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this was a great opportunity that I

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wanted to kind of preface this with

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everybody that these are coming and

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it's very important that we do get

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these signs so that way we can get out

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there and do this work . So these are

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in routing right now . So of course

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I'll add to that . This is rick masters

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I received them today . I am doing my

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initial review and then they should be

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to Colonel taylor for signature . Uh no

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later than friday . If not by tomorrow .

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Over thank you sir .

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Okay at this time we'd like to open it

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up to any individuals that are on the

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call that would like to ask questions .

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Just please make sure you and your mind

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if you're on a desktop you can find

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your mute at the bottom left hand

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corner of your screen . Um You can also

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find it on your cell phone . Um if you

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tap on the screen it should pop up ,

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are you waiting on me ? Mr Bradley ? If

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you have a question . The floor is all

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yours . Thank you appreciate it . Uh I

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know that the mexican Environment

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Department recently did a voluntary

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testing program out in this area . Have

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you coordinated with with them and can

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you use their information to get the

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size of this blue ? Now when you say

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voluntary testing are you referring to

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the the ongoing work that they're doing

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okay ? Because I know that we're

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actually coordinating with them were

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having their contractors coming out and

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we'll be doing work at our base and

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we'll be taking split samples with them .

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Uh As far as I know their data is not

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available but once their data becomes

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available uh we would take a look at

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that and we do coordinate and provide

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them any of our data as we finalize it

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we provide them copies of all of our

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data to . Okay and along that same

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line I know that in the beginning we

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were told that uh in preliminary

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testing and now this is over a year ago

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probably probably two years ago That

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the air force did some testing in a

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about a five mile radius . Ah

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uh of the base Are outside of

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about five miles out . Can you can you

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tell us uh what was the further ist

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positive testing ? Well from the south

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going south east from the base .

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Um I don't I don't name I'm just I'm

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curious . I don't know and I can

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picture it on the map that we went over

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in the first . I'm trying to think

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that's something that I could take away

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and uh see what we can come up with for

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you on that because I don't have a

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definitive answer on mileage . I can

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tell you that it was within the four

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mile range . For sure . Uh

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And I want to say that it wasn't very

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far off the baseline , it was within

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line of sight of the okay

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hey chris kirky this is uh crystal ,

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please excuse the interruption . Um Mr

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Brown . Yes and I do recall that and

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yes it was a four model radius that was

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following E . P . A guidance . Um We do

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have maps that show those detections

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and how far off the installation that

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was detected . So what Turkey could do

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chris Kirk you could do is we can see

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about sharing that . Um that figure in

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that illustration next time but we can

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also provide that to you directly as

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well . But my inclination is . And

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again without the data in front of us I

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believe that that the furthest hit we

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got was roughly a mile off the

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installation and it was below the part

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spiritual . And I think it was about

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25.5 . But again sir we do have all of

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that data in a power point . And and

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maybe it would be worth maybe pulling

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that up during the next public meeting

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or what have you just to re socialize

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that . Um But we do have that

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information available and we will share

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that with you directly . I really

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appreciate it . We're obviously very

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interested in how far southeast that

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bloom is gone . So I'd appreciate that .

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Yes sir . This is

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a shame with the Air Force Civil

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Engineer Center . Uh Mr Bradley . It's

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good to see you sir . Can everyone Yes .

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While since we've chatted anyhow , we

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have to remember that at the time we

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were executing the expanded side

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investigation , we were targeting human

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consumption , water sources for human

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consumption . So what the remedial

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investigation will do that ? Chris

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Gorky was referencing is give us a much

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clearer picture because now we have the

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ability to sample agricultural wells as

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well . Okay great good

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Mr Bradley . Do you have any other

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questions before just trying to find ?

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Uh There we go . Lower . Thank you .

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Thank you for your question sir .

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Do we have any other questions ?

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This is James DRC . I've got a couple

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if I may . Yes sir .

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Um uh chris Shane

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chris . Good to hear you guys

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again after all this time . Can you uh

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tell us you know maybe a little more

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detail about um the work that

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the USgS has done in fy 20 that you

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said has already been funded or or done

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the and I know that there's a work plan

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for the awkward for test that I could

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go and look at . But could you perhaps

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tell the audience a little bit about

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the aquifer test . I'm a little

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concerned that it appears that the

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proposed infiltration gallery for the

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pilot test um , is not upgrading

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within the capture zone of your

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injection wells that it's actually on

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the um eastern edge of

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the base , suggesting that it could

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flow rather uh readily

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into that first North south Paleo

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channel off the southeast corner . Can

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you address that ? Might be helpful if

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you pulled up that map that shows your

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proposed pilot system ?

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Thank you . Get that full

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Oh , okay , give me just one moment and

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I'll get that slide pulled up .

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Okay , can everyone see it ?

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So again , I want to reiterate this is

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a draft design , so there we

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go , this is a draft design . So those ,

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those points right ? There aren't

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necessarily where they're going to be .

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So they come in and pulled samples ,

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they're going to put in that aquifer

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test to , you know , determine how much

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can be pumped out of there at a time .

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Um you know , all the details really go

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into there and if we would like on the

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next meeting or if you have questions

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off the side , we can go into more

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detail in there , but it's going to go

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into the design full design on how

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we're going to place those . So based

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on Rs I data , the flow rate , our

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knowledge of the paleo channels , those

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may slide around there a little bit .

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It just depends , but this is again ,

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this is the pilot study , this isn't a

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full scale pump and treat system . This

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is meant to give us data that will go

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into the ECA and tell us capture zone

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rates , how well is this doing , does

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the media that we sampled or selected

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effectively treat this and give us the

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overall idea of what is the best

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treatment system for this aquifer . So

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this is this is a small scale pilot

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study when it goes to full scale , if

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it's determined that because there's

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going to be additional monitoring wells

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as you can see there are those little

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round circles with the crosses and

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light blue , those are monitoring wells .

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So if that one that's a little further

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east is still showing that there are

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levels there and it's not being

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addressed by an extraction well the

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full scale design is going to have

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additional extraction wells that are

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going to be put in place . So that way

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we're fully capturing everything that's

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coming off base . So again I got to

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reiterate that this is this is a pilot

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study . This isn't meant to capture

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everything that's coming off base right

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now . Before we can get to that stage

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we have to do the eCA pilot study .

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That is a requirement by law following

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circle that that must be completed

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before a interim action can be done but

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we were able to put this pilot study in

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there that will give us better data and

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speed up the process to get us to that

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full scale pump and treat system ,

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Does that make sense sir ? Yeah . Yeah .

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Thanks chris just one more follow up

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before you get to art . I see he's got

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his hand up . Are you going to uh the

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Air Force going to approach the state

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to get a discharge permit for the

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injection or is it the Air Force's

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position that that's not required under

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circle ? We will be following our legal

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moments when it comes to any permitting

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requirements . So we'll work closely

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with our legal team and follow what is

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required . But we are following the

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circle process throughout this p fast

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investigation . So does that mean that

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you're not going to approach the state

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for a discharge permit ? And if you

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can't answer that um Today it would be

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great if you could answer that in

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december . I think that that would be

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pretty crucial for new mexicans to be

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able to have um an opportunity to

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understand that it's um state agency at

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least has some steak uh in this . I'll

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double down on that by noting that the

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two opportunities for agency comment ,

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both E . P . A . And N . M . E . D .

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Are pretty short there 30 days for

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pretty pretty complex documents and

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plans . Um So uh at

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least I know there there are some that

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would uh urge the Air Force to

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um strongly consider seeking a

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discharge permit from the state for

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your re injection . Thank you again and

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we'll follow what our legal guidance is

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when it comes to that . But again with

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these 30 day comment periods , this is

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a standard comment period when it comes

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to the circle process and we have

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received comments back in these time

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periods before . And if there is an

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issue with those time frames were

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always willing to work with our

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counterparts both at the state and EU .

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Um where they can reach out to us and

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discuss those timelines further with us

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directly . Really good to hear . Thanks

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chris , thank you

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chris . We have a question from Mr shop

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asking if we can provide the last 10

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years of water testing results

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conducted by the Public works

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department or an entity that tests

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water for Cannon Air Force Base . So I

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believe that's actually our bio

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environmental group that does that and

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they post that publicly . I believe

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that's an annual requirement for them .

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But that is outside of the range of

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what it is that we're responsible here .

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So I'm not exactly sure how I can

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address that for you but that's

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something that we could look into .

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Yeah . Hagerty , just to add to that if

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I may , I'm confident every year we put

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out a consumer confidence report as the

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owner of our drinking water system . So

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the C . C . R . S . Are published on

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the new Mexico department as well as

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probably and more than likely on the

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Canyon web page . So yes that that that

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is absolutely available . That is a

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requirement . It's a drinking water

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requirement and it is up on the state

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websites and it is up on the Canada

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site and they're the consumer

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confidence reports and that uh that

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that synthesizes all the contaminants

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within that drinking water source for

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that year . Yeah .

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Yeah .

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And then chris if you want mind taking

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mr scops um question on the N . B . A .

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Topic . I'm sorry , let me scroll up

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so I can see that .

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Oh let me read this out in 2020 , the

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National Defense Authorization Act were

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you instructed by Congress to clean up

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the water to acquire land and farms

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surrounding cannon that has been

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contaminated with pitfalls before ?

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Where are what and where are you in

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this process ? Mm .

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So and with that um we're using

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our circle authorities to address p

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fast circle is the process that we have

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to address unacceptable risk . And

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we're now following that action uh with

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that we've got our removal action with

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the he can pilot study to expedite our

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circle actions but India is a future

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tool that can be utilized after

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unacceptable risks are determined and

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that goes back to promulgated standards

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haven't been established so to

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determine that unacceptable risk ,

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we're using circle to determine that .

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Uh huh . Chris our next question comes

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from Mr Pyle , will you go back over

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the timeline also ? What has been put

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in place to keep the contamination from

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spreading .

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So with that Air Force has changed

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the ways that it operates using a

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triple left , so it has a hard

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yeah , It is removed the old C8

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legacy Foam and replaced it with the

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shorter C6 a trip left . And

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also in its training environment , it

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does not use a triple F in training

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anymore . It's always going to use

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water . It only uses a triple F in real

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world scenarios . And once that happens

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it makes sure that it cleans it up and

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contain arises it . So that way , it's

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not

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now again with our media investigation

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that's going to continue to determine

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what that nature and extent is . So

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that way we can , once the remedial

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investigation is done , feasibility

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study is done , we can look at a full

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scale remediation plan for what that

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plume is right now in the short term ,

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that's why we have this eca plan . So

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that way we can do a interim response

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and that is something in the near term

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here that we can start doing a response

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action now to start cleaning up what

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impact there is in the aquifer .

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Okay , Mr Gorky . The next question is

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from Mr martin .

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Have other options for the filtered

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clean water been considered besides

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injecting back into the aquifer

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and that's something that I believe we

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are looking through the Zika is water

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realization . I think right now the

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first thing that comes to mind is too ,

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as we all are very aware that our

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aquifer is depleting and so right

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now it would be to filter it and put it

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re injected back into the aquifer . So

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that way we have a zero effect on there .

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Um But it is something that we do

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discuss as to what other options there

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might potentially be for water

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realization that would be best for the

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local community .

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Our next question comes from Mr

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Longmire . Will the soil sediments

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present in the Eurozone vados zone

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beneath the I'm sorry .

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Yeah this one must be contamination is

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detected .

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So we're doing a very we were doing a

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very extensive remedial investigation

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and so that will go into if there are

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in one also in and that goes into the

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eca for short term . So if there are

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point sources that are discovered that

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would be potentials for digging hall so

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we could dig out those areas and

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potentially haul them off and dispose

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of them properly . That then reduces

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any further migration down to the

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ground water . That would be a

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potential . And then again that also

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looks at what could be done in the long

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term as we finalize that remedial

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investigation , what happens as we go

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through there . So this is going to be

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looked at as we go through remedial

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investigation and as we complete the

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investigation so there is the potential

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that yes remedial actions could be

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taken to dig out and address those

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areas ?

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Okay the next question that we have is

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from Mr shop . Um can you provide your

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D . O . D . Criticality threat

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assessment findings and responses to

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the D . O . D . For the last 10 years .

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Um Is that go back to what Mr Segura

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had mentioned earlier ? I believe so

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because that is something that is not

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in the restoration portfolio . So again ,

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that's going to go back to that

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consumer confidence report . And we

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have confirmed that it is on the Canyon

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website and it is titled drinking water

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report .

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Um Mr James Beer Z asks , is the

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aquifer test going to assess the

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pyramids Mr shops wells adjacent to the

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pilot test area . I would have to look

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at it . Um But I do know that we are

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working close with the Office of State

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Engineers when we are going to do this .

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Well ,

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okay , at this point in time , Mr Gorky ,

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this is the last question that we have

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in uh in the chat room . Do we have any

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other 10 days that would like to ask

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questions at this point in time ,

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Mr kern , Do you have your hand up ? Do

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you have a question ? Yes . Thanks very

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very much . I want to uh address

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Colonel Taylor and welcome him to the

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base and congratulate him on the

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command . Um I'm speaking as the

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executive director of a community group

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in Clovis called the Clean Water

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Partnership at Cannon and this is a

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community organization that is

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dedicated to helping find clean water

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solutions um in the face of

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this p fast water contamination problem .

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Um we had extended an

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invitation to Colonel mitosis

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previously your predecessor , which he

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did not take us up on

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at this juncture . Mr jerky has made it

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clear that there's no interest in

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community input through the restoration

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advisory board mechanism which

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you know , really does cut off

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community participation and

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dialogue . It's a monologue . And

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if if given the chance once every 90

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days to uh speak in a virtual capacity ,

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it's uh we consider it terribly

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inadequate considering that economic

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devastation that PFS

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portends for the community . And we

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have no real confidence based on Mr

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Gorky's perspective and his um lack

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of communication or interesting

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communicating that Colonel taylor user

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have the full picture about what is

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going on in this community . And

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therefore I would like to request a

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meeting between the clean water

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partnership Cannon and your office . I

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would invite you to come to some of the

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immediately neighbouring dairies To

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see for yourself where there are some

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2000 cows um

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that have died while on quarantine

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not more than a half a mile away from

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the fence line of the airbase to the

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rest of the community . I'd like

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you to get an understanding for

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yourself , not through surrogates , but

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for yourself about what's going on in

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the community and perhaps you'll

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appreciate why The idea of a pilot

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study which is two or 3 years in the

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future and then a potential um

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prophylactic project which might keep

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molecules moving from beneath the

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airbase to its neighbors in the face

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of a Wo of the fast in the water

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to the east and south east of the air

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base is already being , already being

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present . We'd like you to understand

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why much of the community considers

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that to be a woefully inadequate

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response to the problem .

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And we would like to review with you ,

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we'd like to have the opportunity to

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review with you what we consider to be

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your authority to take action to

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address the problem and not simply

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accept this . This line that is out

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there that circle to is the only

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governing body of law , the only

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authority for the base to take action

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to protect the neighboring community .

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And so I would very much like to extend

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the invitation to you at any time over

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the coming 30 days or 60 days whenever

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it is convenient to you for a face to

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face meeting with the community . And

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we'd like to do that either on the base

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or uh preferably on

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site on the locations including

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highland dairy , which has been

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financially and environmentally

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devastated by the Air Force is

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failures over these years . And

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it's uncomfortable to talk about it .

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And you won't see the city leaders of

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Clovis or curry county uh speaking up ,

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but the community itself would very

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much like to have your attention on

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these matters and know that you're

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hearing us , sir . So Mr kern , if I

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may the rab was not established because

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the information that was received from

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the responses was directed at

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specifically p false befo and so there

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is open communication and that's

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specifically why we're having these

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corporate public updates . They are

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publicly , they are public . I'm a

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please finish , I would like to

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publicly they are and they are

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not mr current , please , please go

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ahead . Colonel Taylor , thank you .

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They are publicly accountable . We have

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the MFR that documents all of our

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reasonings . We are open to all lines

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of communication and that

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we will be continuing this wrong . That

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is our commitment to the community that

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we are going to continue these open

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lines of communication to make sure

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that everybody is aware of exactly what

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is going on . And I reiterate again

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that when it comes to the pilot study

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in the eca , those are requirements by

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law that the Ika must be done before we

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can do an interim action and that's why

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we did that pilot study is to get us

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moving there even faster to get us to

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that interim corrective measure to be

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able to start actually affecting clean

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up and that's what we could do to get

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there even faster . All right . Yeah .

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Yes . And thank you very if I may add ,

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I know that's a legitimate concern

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starting the governance and the

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framework but you know , our commanders

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are bound by law , this is this is an

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ongoing litigation but this is the law

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and you know , given that PFS is not a

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record constituent , this is how the

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Air Force is managing the p fast

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impacts across the nation . So when it

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comes to decentralized execution , um ,

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that's not really what the Air Force is

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doing , PBS impacts , We're looking at

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it centrally . We're throwing a lot of

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investment at it a lot of time . Um , I

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believe that our response actions have

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shown that we are taking the community

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concerns seriously . Um , the rapid

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results furthermore substantiated the

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need for the quarterly updates to

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target PFS specific concerns . So again ,

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what we would like to offer is , you

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know , if there's things that we can

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add into the public meeting that would

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be of value to Mr kern or to the

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community , we're all about that and we

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would love to do that . We would love

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to hear your feedback , but I just want

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to indicate that , you know , this is

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the circle process . This is bounded by

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law flexibility and our ability to be

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able to manage this under a different

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framework just is not there . So our

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hands are tied and this is grounded in

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legal framework . So Mr kern , thank

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you for your concerns . Um , as we move

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forward , we'll continue to share

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information , will continue to share

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the progress and the investment in the

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commitment that the air force has to be

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best impacts . Hey Mr current

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Colonel Taylor here just first . Thanks .

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Thanks for the for the invitation and

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the opportunity to comment and thanks

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for your uh you know , continued

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interest , passion and support on

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helping us get through this issue . Um

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so I am certainly um

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more , I'm certainly looking

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to get as complete a picture sure as I

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can of this as we continue to work

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through it . I've been working with the

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team here um to to ensure that that

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happens . Um but like it was said , you

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know , there as we allow this circle of

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process to continue as we have been

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advised to the Department of Defense ,

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there's some things that that are

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within and some things that are outside

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of our control here here at Cannon Air

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Force Base . But I do assure you sir

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that we are all absolutely invested in

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getting clean water as we're all parts

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of the community here and and certainly

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invested in that success .

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Well , thank you Colonel I um I

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reiterate again as Mr Durkee says , I

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reiterate again my request for an

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opportunity for you to see for

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yourself what's going on in the

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community off off the base and uh

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we'll be waiting for a call to help

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orchestrate that so that you can see

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for yourself and decide for yourself

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whether the pushback or the feedback

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that you might give to your superiors

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is appropriately relating

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the true circumstances that are going

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on in this community . You know , it

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may be that five years from now , the

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entire Yeah . You know , southern half

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of curry county is a superfund site

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and that would be a tragedy for the

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entire community . Nobody wants that .

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We want to address the problem . We

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want to advocate for solutions and

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there is a separate body of authority

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and the Department of Defense Office of

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General Counsel is and the Justice

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Department is entirely aware of it

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relating to the 2020 National Defense

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Authorization Act provides

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independent authority to take action .

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And so far your predecessors have

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declined to exercise authorities

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granted and the consequences are

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threatening to the community . And this

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is why we're um concerned and we look

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forward to working with you sir and

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thanks very much .

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Okay If I may Chris or Christopher

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either one first of all , I'm really

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glad that we're getting started on this .

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Just testing that's very important to

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the area that I represent . And uh but

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I have a question for you on this

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testing , are the the names of

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the owners ? Are they held in

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confidence ? Are are they publicly

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disclosed from that your people ? Well ,

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generally , and that's why I haven't

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posted up the work plan yet

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for the er on our remedial

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investigation is ensuring that I'm not

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posting any personally identifiable

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information . So we we are

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conscious about that and making sure

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that we don't provide anybody's

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personally identifiable information out

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there when we should not be right .

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Good . And then uh just a quick follow

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up . How are you ? Are you just , I

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believe you said you were looking up

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the address . You're just basically

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knocking on the doors just to well

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owners , is that my understanding ? Um

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I believe it was I , you know , there's

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obviously there is a record of all the

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wells that are out there . And so they

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use the with maps and based on

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our other side data that we have in

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prior investigations , they made a

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determination of where they were . So ,

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it's some of the uh information that we

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have is from the public record . And so

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I'll also be reaching out with

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Shinnecock Camp that has been out there .

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As you're aware when the site

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investigation was done and making sure

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that we are getting in contact with

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everybody ? Okay . All right .

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That answers that question . But yeah ,

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it's uh , the disclosure of owners is

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that's a tricky one that , that I've

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had to deal with appreciate it . Thank

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you . Yes , sir .

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Chris we've got another question from

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Mr Shop Uh says you sent us landowners

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within a mile radius around cannon a

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letter in April 2021 , 1st addressing

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the potential risk to human health and

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drinking water . So , Mr shop is also

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addressing his one . It says lost over

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1000 cows because of p foss and their

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drinking water . Um Is there anything

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aside from the circular process that is

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being done to help mitigate or address

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this issue . Again , that's going to go

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back to , we're using the circle of

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process to establish those unacceptable

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risks . The the India is a future tool

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that can be used after those

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unacceptable risks have been determined .

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And from a legal perspective they also

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have the toxic tort claim avenue as

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well . Yes .

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Are there any other questions right now ?

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We don't have any other questions in

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the chat room . But I'm looking at the

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individual participants to see if we

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have any other hands up . So if you

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have a question at this time , feel

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free to interject or raise your hand on

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the zoom call and we'll get

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uh this is James BRC . Again , I have a

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more of an observation than than a

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question and chris if you could keep

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this slide up , this is actually pretty

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good . You know , unless you have a

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technical background , things like ,

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you know , sampling event aquifer ,

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test treat ability study . I mean

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You went through your slides in less

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than 10 minutes and they didn't really

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tell us anything about what the air

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force has discovered so far for the $31

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million dollars that they've already

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spent and and how that information is

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going to inform future actions . And I

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think in the , in the Air Force's

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desire to perhaps make these

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meetings , these quarterly meetings one

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quarterly and too short that

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you kind of go past . Um some of that

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detail . Now many of the participants

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in this call may not be interested in

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any of those technical details , but I

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can tell uh everybody on this call that

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it is these technical details that are

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going to cost a ton of money

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put up roadblocks that the Air Force is

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going to say , why they can't do

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something and it's going to make things

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go years and years in the future . The

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circus process is like Mr

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Bradley said it's going to take um 5 ,

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10 , 10 years and Mr Kern as well . So

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I would encourage the air force perhaps

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at the next meeting too . Mhm . Slow

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down a little bit and take a little bit

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of time to talk about some of the data

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that they've collected , where they

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think the contamination is , what their

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studies have shown already . Um You

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guys already have a ton of data on um

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what the paleo channels look like ,

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what the flows are like . I um

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communicate with you guys about ideas

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about how fast groundwater moves . Um I

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think you should be telling everybody

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about that . Um In the chat , I did

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ask a question about that more of an

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observation again that the circle

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process is a minimum requirement and it

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doesn't prevent preclude or prohibit

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the Air Force from doing more with

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respect to public engagement . And so

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all of that rolls up to my grand

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question , which is so what is the air

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Force going to do ? That's more than

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the minimum that circle to requires .

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Well and thank you for the question .

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And our first quarterly meeting , we

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did go through all of the data that we

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have collected so far and went through

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our preliminary assessment , our site

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investigation and put all of that out

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and that is available out on our

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website where you can review it . And

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then as we've moved through these

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quarterly meetings , were trying to put

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out new information and where we're at

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and right now we're just getting to the

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point where we are starting that

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remedial investigation and we're

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starting this project of the IKA pilot

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study . So we will be getting to the

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point where we're going to have more

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information that's actually data driven ,

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here's data that I can show you that

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we've discovered as we're going through

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this . So I do agree with you and we

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will have that information to share

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with the public right now , we're we've

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been in those planning phases , these

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last two meetings and so that's kind of

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where we're at right now , as I'm

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trying to make sure that everybody in

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the community has an awareness of where

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we're at and that we are pushing

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forward through this trying to get out

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there in the field because during the

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first meeting that we had , I had

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originally put out there that

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potentially our field work was going to

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commence in october of this year

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for our remedial investigation and

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right now we're about a month ahead .

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So we are aggressively pushing through

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this and with the circle process being

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a minimum to your question with that ,

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that's why we got the pilot study in

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there because as a minimum are

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requirement was to do an eca and we

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would have gone out there and just

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completed an ECA and that would have

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been a year or two process and then I

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could have gone out and hopefully

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secured funds at that time if they were

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available and then got a contract in

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place to then put in a full pilot , a

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full pump and treat system . Whereas

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being aggressive , we had the funds

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available , we got them , we were able

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to do this pilot study which is the

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small scale pump and treat system to

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start pulling out water that will treat

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it and then reinject it , give us a

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better , more robust eCA pilot

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eCA in its hole and then put us quicker

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into being able to go to a full scale

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study . So we are being extremely

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aggressive and how we do this and

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trying to look at ways that we can move

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this process forward as aggressively as

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we can through this because again , we

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do understand the community's concerns

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and again , I appreciate the feedback

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because there will be times where I

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will definitely have a lot more detail

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to give to the local community as to

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what we found in what we're discovering

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as we go through this process . Yeah ,

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and burke if I may add to that , um you

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know , we're also doing the quarterly

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public meetings , we are hosting uh

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kodo meetings as requested , were also

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publishing frequently asked questions

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and putting that on the Canon website .

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And we're building our p a outreach a

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lot more robust was required on the

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circle .

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Do we have any other questions from any

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of our participants ?

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Mr brookie at this time ? It looks as

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though we've answered all the questions

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for tonight's quarterly meaning . So

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unless you have anything else to add ,

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I think we may be uh in pending our

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evening . Thank you

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everybody for your participation . And

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I look forward to seeing you all and

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hearing from you all again at the next

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quarterly public update again ,

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tentatively scheduled for December 15

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as of right now . Thank you .

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Appreciate it . Carl taylor here , just

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real quick , I just want to make sure

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we addressed uh Mr Schapp who has his

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hand up , I just want to make sure he

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had a chance to chat and also I have

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just a couple of comments before we

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close . Yes , sir , Mr Schapp , did you

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have another question or did we answer

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the questions that you have provided

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for us in the chat room ? I was

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wondering if you're gonna call . I'm

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sorry , sir , I was looking at your

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chats in the your questions in the chat

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room , Commander , Thank you so much

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for being here in Clovis and open up

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dialogue . I'm a little little

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disgruntled about the rabbi have a lot

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of people in the community that would

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like to be involved in this thing up .

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Yeah . So you said that you're headed

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to clean water and pollution ? I'm

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just why we need a pilot

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project to prove that the filters are

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used nation fine . Already . We all had

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to install filters , all our homes and

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all our facilities and uh we didn't ,

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but we had no help from the Air Force

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or the military at all . Um

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You know , I guess our biggest issue

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here off uh , because you guys , you

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know , you sent our letter to us uh

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April 20 2021

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you acknowledge the p Fossen ?

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Yeah . Air Force base in our property .

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You know , we're deal with this right

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now and I'm just wondering why we don't

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just have filters on all those

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contaminated with that are being used

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right now to feed our animals to water

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our crops , our homes . We've we've got

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to pay for all that our belts . And so

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we're a little bit disappointed in that .

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And you know , we also in the National

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Defense authorization act , Uh ,

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there's $100 million dollars there for

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this project to clean all this up . So

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I'm just a little disappointed there ,

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but like I said , I know that you guys

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are going to get to the bottom of this

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and we're gonna get to a resolution

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here someday fix this and I know you

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guys can do it or you right people to

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do it and I just want to thank you very

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much . Yeah .

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Well sir , if I may this is chris again

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again that goes back to why filters not

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on everything that goes to the

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authority that we have right now based

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on the E . P . A . S . Lifetime health

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advisory as we can address drinking

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water for human consumption . So once

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we go through that remedial

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investigation we can determine that

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unacceptable risk . Then that N . D . A .

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Can be used . But without the USDA and

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FDA and EPA is promulgated standards .

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We we can't address those right now and

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that's based on legal requirements

01:00:02.310 --> 01:00:06.310
now , as far as yes ,

01:00:06.460 --> 01:00:09.180
the FDA has already made a decision on

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contaminated milk . Yeah . F . S . I .

01:00:11.910 --> 01:00:15.780
S . Has already made a uh the

01:00:15.780 --> 01:00:18.090
declaration that the cows cannot be

01:00:18.090 --> 01:00:20.250
sold as beef . They've already made

01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:23.690
those . I'm not sure the FDA and the F .

01:00:23.690 --> 01:00:25.850
S . I . S . Has already made those

01:00:25.850 --> 01:00:28.400
decisions . You know , we are in

01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.540
stranded mode here so I'm not sure what

01:00:31.550 --> 01:00:34.730
uh you know uh you said E . P . A .

01:00:34.730 --> 01:00:36.690
Standards but they already set the

01:00:36.690 --> 01:00:40.640
standard . So . Right and I

01:00:40.650 --> 01:00:44.440
I understand and we're here and what I

01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.384
can do is drive this investigation

01:00:46.384 --> 01:00:49.520
forward and get the data that we need

01:00:49.530 --> 01:00:51.940
to fill in those blanks . But right now ,

01:00:51.950 --> 01:00:54.060
based on the legal guidance , docs

01:00:54.060 --> 01:00:56.170
guidance and everything that's out

01:00:56.170 --> 01:00:58.281
there , this is the mechanism that we

01:00:58.281 --> 01:01:00.392
have is we must continue through this

01:01:00.392 --> 01:01:04.290
circle process . Yes and

01:01:04.290 --> 01:01:07.370
and yeah and if I may answer that Mr

01:01:07.370 --> 01:01:09.460
scott um thank you for your comments

01:01:09.470 --> 01:01:12.550
were sensitive to the impacts that that

01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:15.100
that you have experienced . Um One of

01:01:15.100 --> 01:01:17.267
the things that I just kind of want to

01:01:17.267 --> 01:01:19.378
close the loop on from A to Z is that

01:01:19.378 --> 01:01:21.600
we talk a lot about the N . D . A . And

01:01:21.600 --> 01:01:23.711
the authorization . I just want to be

01:01:23.711 --> 01:01:23.520
clear and laid this out in layman's

01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:25.742
terms is that the N . D . A . Is really

01:01:25.742 --> 01:01:28.110
a future tool and when I say that , I

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mean that the prerequisite to get there

01:01:30.332 --> 01:01:32.332
to be able to determine risk and be

01:01:32.332 --> 01:01:34.554
able to meet the criteria to get out of

01:01:34.554 --> 01:01:37.140
the NBA what we want is uh

01:01:45.910 --> 01:01:48.360
I apologize guys I had an issue there .

01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.030
Am I am I back on ? Yes .

01:01:51.910 --> 01:01:53.966
Okay . So it kind of just to kind of

01:01:53.966 --> 01:01:56.021
recap so the N . D . A . Is gonna be

01:01:56.021 --> 01:01:58.243
our future tool and that's why we're so

01:01:58.243 --> 01:02:00.132
excited about the award of the Ri

01:02:00.132 --> 01:02:02.021
because the ri is what's going to

01:02:02.021 --> 01:02:04.188
determine nature and extent to give us

01:02:04.188 --> 01:02:03.670
our risk as well with the risk

01:02:03.670 --> 01:02:05.880
assessment following pretty soon . So

01:02:05.890 --> 01:02:08.057
so I just want to be clear on that and

01:02:08.057 --> 01:02:10.168
lay that out as kind of a roadmap and

01:02:10.168 --> 01:02:12.112
how we get to the N . D . A . As a

01:02:12.112 --> 01:02:13.890
future tool is first we have to

01:02:13.890 --> 01:02:15.946
complete the ari and be able to meet

01:02:15.946 --> 01:02:17.890
the criteria that the NBA puts out

01:02:17.890 --> 01:02:17.890
there . If we made the criteria that

01:02:17.890 --> 01:02:20.190
the NBA puts out there through our our

01:02:20.190 --> 01:02:22.246
I . And all of our contract awards .

01:02:22.246 --> 01:02:24.134
Then at that time that could be a

01:02:24.134 --> 01:02:26.301
future tool that we explore to be able

01:02:26.301 --> 01:02:28.412
to compensate or to take advantage of

01:02:28.412 --> 01:02:30.523
that endia authorization . So again I

01:02:30.523 --> 01:02:32.690
just kind of want to roadmap it the Ri

01:02:32.690 --> 01:02:34.912
the contract awards the investment that

01:02:34.912 --> 01:02:36.468
we're doing . Those are all

01:02:36.468 --> 01:02:38.523
prerequisites to get us into . Do we

01:02:38.523 --> 01:02:40.301
meet that criteria ? And can we

01:02:40.301 --> 01:02:42.523
activate this agenda at this location ?

01:02:44.600 --> 01:02:46.970
So I'm hoping I explain that in a way .

01:02:46.980 --> 01:02:49.320
Um So where we understand that it's

01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.153
going to be the elements and the

01:02:51.153 --> 01:02:53.153
information out of the bride that's

01:02:53.153 --> 01:02:55.320
going to help determine if we meet the

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:57.320
criteria . Um NBA authorization .

01:03:04.200 --> 01:03:06.100
What ? Yeah

01:03:10.300 --> 01:03:12.411
and sir if that did not quite hit the

01:03:12.411 --> 01:03:14.522
mark please let me know and I can say

01:03:14.522 --> 01:03:18.470
that a different way kicking the can

01:03:18.470 --> 01:03:21.440
down the road . Oh this is this is

01:03:21.450 --> 01:03:24.630
James boc . Again I want to I don't

01:03:24.630 --> 01:03:26.880
know . Hopefully this isn't piling on

01:03:26.890 --> 01:03:28.610
but

01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:33.930
chris what you were saying was a little

01:03:33.930 --> 01:03:36.610
different from what the other chris

01:03:36.610 --> 01:03:40.330
said . Um If I understood your

01:03:40.330 --> 01:03:43.700
answer to art correctly you're you're

01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:46.680
saying that um we got to go through the

01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:49.050
Ri process and I didn't I didn't hear

01:03:49.060 --> 01:03:51.171
art so that you know I don't want you

01:03:51.171 --> 01:03:53.393
guys to investigate things are doing RI

01:03:53.393 --> 01:03:55.338
but he's saying you know there are

01:03:55.338 --> 01:03:57.504
other considerations . And I heard you

01:03:57.504 --> 01:03:59.616
say that you go through the ri to see

01:03:59.616 --> 01:04:01.616
if you meet the criteria to use the

01:04:01.616 --> 01:04:04.100
authority in the N . B . A . But what

01:04:04.100 --> 01:04:07.410
chris is saying is that until F . D . A .

01:04:07.420 --> 01:04:10.980
And E . P . A . Promulgate a standard ,

01:04:10.990 --> 01:04:14.610
you guys are limited by law

01:04:14.990 --> 01:04:18.590
to addressing drinking water

01:04:18.600 --> 01:04:20.560
impact and that's a little little

01:04:20.560 --> 01:04:22.616
different . And if you could clarify

01:04:22.616 --> 01:04:24.949
that maybe it's my own misunderstanding .

01:04:24.949 --> 01:04:27.060
Maybe it's a question of messaging by

01:04:27.060 --> 01:04:29.060
the Air Force . But I didn't really

01:04:29.060 --> 01:04:31.500
understand Thank those two answers .

01:04:31.990 --> 01:04:34.720
It's actually a combination of the two .

01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:37.240
So Art was asking about why can't we

01:04:37.240 --> 01:04:40.610
use the N . D . A . Now ? And that is

01:04:40.610 --> 01:04:42.610
those lack of promulgated standards

01:04:42.970 --> 01:04:46.790
with Mr Segura's answer with as we

01:04:46.790 --> 01:04:49.330
go through the ri to establish that

01:04:49.330 --> 01:04:51.720
criteria to meet the requirements of

01:04:51.720 --> 01:04:54.090
the N . D . A . Then we can utilize it .

01:04:54.100 --> 01:04:57.350
So it's the criteria has not been met

01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.300
as of yet to utilize the N . B . A .

01:05:00.310 --> 01:05:02.532
And that's what we're going through the

01:05:02.532 --> 01:05:04.532
remedial investigation right now to

01:05:04.532 --> 01:05:07.100
meet those criteria down the road this

01:05:07.110 --> 01:05:09.054
property . And I apologize for the

01:05:09.054 --> 01:05:10.999
confusion . I was just building on

01:05:10.999 --> 01:05:14.220
chris Gorky's earlier narrative . But

01:05:14.220 --> 01:05:17.460
that is correct that that is and and

01:05:17.470 --> 01:05:20.040
furthermore I believe jerky and correct

01:05:20.040 --> 01:05:21.873
me if I'm wrong but we do have a

01:05:21.873 --> 01:05:23.929
frequently asked questions that does

01:05:23.929 --> 01:05:26.151
have the N . D . A . Topic on the Canon

01:05:26.151 --> 01:05:29.140
website . Yes it goes into a lot more

01:05:29.140 --> 01:05:31.280
detail on on both of them and that is

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.810
something that and we will continue to

01:05:34.820 --> 01:05:37.940
update as more information comes out .

01:05:37.950 --> 01:05:40.710
That is always available on our website

01:05:41.090 --> 01:05:43.200
there and trying to keep that up to

01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:45.650
date with the most accurate information .

01:05:45.650 --> 01:05:47.970
So another another tool that we're

01:05:47.970 --> 01:05:50.300
trying to keep out here for the public .

01:05:50.300 --> 01:05:52.300
So that way they can come out there

01:05:52.300 --> 01:05:54.920
again these meetings are recorded and

01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.220
will be posted at that website . Will

01:05:57.220 --> 01:05:59.980
continue to have the fact sheet up

01:05:59.980 --> 01:06:02.590
there and updated as we go through this .

01:06:02.980 --> 01:06:06.090
So we're trying to build that site out

01:06:06.090 --> 01:06:08.020
more too . So it's a tool for the

01:06:08.020 --> 01:06:10.900
community and again um

01:06:11.680 --> 01:06:14.090
please by all means when we have these

01:06:14.090 --> 01:06:16.340
meetings please share this to the local

01:06:16.340 --> 01:06:19.270
community that wants to be involved in

01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.570
this remedial investigation because

01:06:21.570 --> 01:06:23.626
again this is a forum for the entire

01:06:23.626 --> 01:06:25.700
community for the entire public .

01:06:25.710 --> 01:06:28.580
Please share these invites push it out

01:06:28.580 --> 01:06:30.800
to everyone . The more community

01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:32.967
involvement we have the better because

01:06:32.967 --> 01:06:35.230
that is exactly what we have this here

01:06:35.230 --> 01:06:38.620
for is to inform the community and give

01:06:38.620 --> 01:06:42.190
them an opportunity to be a part of

01:06:42.190 --> 01:06:44.301
this investigation and to voice their

01:06:44.301 --> 01:06:46.410
opinion and to be heard .

01:06:59.780 --> 01:07:01.613
Colonel Taylor you had mentioned

01:07:01.613 --> 01:07:03.669
earlier that you would like to say a

01:07:03.669 --> 01:07:06.220
few closing remarks . Yeah thanks misty

01:07:06.230 --> 01:07:08.620
I can't seem to get my video back on

01:07:08.620 --> 01:07:10.620
but hopefully you guys can at least

01:07:10.620 --> 01:07:12.900
hear me . Um I just want to thank

01:07:12.900 --> 01:07:16.340
everyone again for the oh hold on .

01:07:16.340 --> 01:07:18.396
Looks like my video might be working

01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:21.850
uh again for the continued interest

01:07:21.850 --> 01:07:24.900
feedback uh and and continued dialogue

01:07:24.900 --> 01:07:27.178
here . So I understand that , you know ,

01:07:27.178 --> 01:07:29.344
this is this is an emotional topic . I

01:07:29.344 --> 01:07:32.060
understand that the timelines uh that

01:07:32.060 --> 01:07:35.470
we are relegated to and that we have to

01:07:35.470 --> 01:07:38.070
abide by on the on the air Force and on

01:07:38.070 --> 01:07:40.970
the government side do not match up

01:07:40.980 --> 01:07:43.480
with the urgency with which

01:07:43.490 --> 01:07:46.730
most would would hope that that it

01:07:46.730 --> 01:07:48.990
would go , you know , with as fast as

01:07:48.990 --> 01:07:51.380
we would hope hope for it to go . Um

01:07:51.390 --> 01:07:53.740
but I do want to just reiterate that we

01:07:53.740 --> 01:07:57.130
remain committed . Um you know , I did ,

01:07:57.140 --> 01:08:00.040
I think one of the terms used was using

01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:02.340
circle as a as a road blocker is

01:08:02.340 --> 01:08:05.030
something that something to to to give

01:08:05.030 --> 01:08:07.141
a reason why we can't and I just want

01:08:07.141 --> 01:08:08.974
to reaffirm you all that that is

01:08:08.974 --> 01:08:11.170
absolutely not the case . We are not

01:08:11.170 --> 01:08:13.820
looking for ways to halt progress . In

01:08:13.820 --> 01:08:15.987
fact , we're trying to speed things up

01:08:15.987 --> 01:08:18.880
as best we can . So , um just for me to

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.102
you all as you know , kind of the local

01:08:21.102 --> 01:08:23.800
based representative here , I just want

01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.690
to again reiterate our commitment and

01:08:26.700 --> 01:08:29.200
and and state that we are absolutely

01:08:29.200 --> 01:08:31.311
committed to working through this and

01:08:31.311 --> 01:08:33.144
getting through it as quickly as

01:08:33.144 --> 01:08:34.811
possible and understand fully

01:08:34.811 --> 01:08:36.978
acknowledge that the timelines are are

01:08:36.978 --> 01:08:39.860
not satisfactory for for many , but we

01:08:39.860 --> 01:08:42.027
continue to do our best in this effort

01:08:42.027 --> 01:08:43.027
center .

01:08:48.570 --> 01:08:50.681
You are appreciated . Colonel . Thank

01:08:50.681 --> 01:08:50.400
you .

01:08:58.570 --> 01:09:00.570
If there are no other questions and

01:09:00.570 --> 01:09:02.570
we'll go ahead and wrap this up for

01:09:02.570 --> 01:09:04.792
this evening , please be on the lookout

01:09:04.792 --> 01:09:06.848
for an invitation to come out in mid

01:09:06.848 --> 01:09:09.181
december for the next quarterly meeting .

01:09:09.181 --> 01:09:11.292
Otherwise we will also be loading the

01:09:11.292 --> 01:09:13.514
recording of this video onto the Cannon

01:09:13.514 --> 01:09:15.626
Air Force Base website as well as the

01:09:15.626 --> 01:09:17.780
power Point presentation and the most

01:09:17.780 --> 01:09:19.669
recent frequently asked questions

01:09:19.669 --> 01:09:21.669
document . So if you have any other

01:09:21.669 --> 01:09:23.891
questions , feel free to ask them now .

01:09:23.891 --> 01:09:26.190
Otherwise this meeting is uh ma'am , I

01:09:26.190 --> 01:09:28.246
do have one more question . Yes . Mr

01:09:28.246 --> 01:09:30.370
I'm sorry . Um it's more of a

01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:34.380
suggestion . Um perhaps a week

01:09:34.380 --> 01:09:37.060
or two before the meeting , you could

01:09:37.060 --> 01:09:39.060
reach out to some of the people who

01:09:39.060 --> 01:09:41.660
have been at both meetings and ask for

01:09:41.670 --> 01:09:44.740
agenda items , not that you have to

01:09:44.750 --> 01:09:47.710
address them , but it would give

01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:49.831
everybody perhaps a little more sense

01:09:49.831 --> 01:09:52.420
of agency in terms of how the meetings

01:09:52.420 --> 01:09:55.560
are conducted . And and we could and it

01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.727
could give the Air Force a heads up to

01:09:57.727 --> 01:09:59.727
perhaps do a little homework . It's

01:09:59.727 --> 01:09:59.720
like , okay , we're going to get

01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:01.387
questions about this . Just a

01:10:01.387 --> 01:10:04.020
suggestion from the friendly peanut

01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:05.853
gallery out here . Thank you . I

01:10:05.853 --> 01:10:07.964
appreciate your time . That's a great

01:10:07.964 --> 01:10:10.190
suggestion . Yes , sir . Um So at this

01:10:10.190 --> 01:10:13.090
point in time , I would also invite you

01:10:13.090 --> 01:10:16.640
to , you can send me an email so that I

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.584
make sure that I've got your email

01:10:18.584 --> 01:10:20.751
addresses as well . Um , you can reach

01:10:20.751 --> 01:10:23.380
me . My name is misty Mercado and that

01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:26.980
is M I S T Y dot

01:10:27.360 --> 01:10:31.230
M E R C A D O at

01:10:31.240 --> 01:10:34.190
us dot af dot mil .

01:10:35.160 --> 01:10:37.382
You can make sure that you reach out to

01:10:37.382 --> 01:10:39.049
me with your personal contact

01:10:39.049 --> 01:10:41.216
information . So then that way , prior

01:10:41.216 --> 01:10:43.327
to the next quarterly meeting , I can

01:10:43.327 --> 01:10:45.438
do just that I will proactively reach

01:10:45.438 --> 01:10:47.660
out to all those that are in attendance

01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:49.827
um for those whose contact information

01:10:49.827 --> 01:10:51.716
that I have so that I can get the

01:10:51.716 --> 01:10:53.716
questions that you may have and and

01:10:53.716 --> 01:10:55.882
make sure to get those in front of our

01:10:55.882 --> 01:10:58.049
Civil Engineering organization earlier

01:10:58.049 --> 01:11:00.271
than the meeting and and do just that .

01:11:00.271 --> 01:10:59.690
Yes , sir .

01:11:03.860 --> 01:11:06.560
Good . Well , thank you so much

01:11:06.570 --> 01:11:08.792
everybody for your attendance tonight .

01:11:08.792 --> 01:11:10.848
And again , this information will be

01:11:10.848 --> 01:11:13.014
available on the website tomorrow . So

01:11:13.014 --> 01:11:15.181
thank you for your time this evening .

01:11:15.181 --> 01:11:17.403
Uh , this is Shane thomas Kottkamp with

01:11:17.403 --> 01:11:19.570
the Air Force Civil Engineers Center .

01:11:19.570 --> 01:11:21.459
I just wanted to make one comment

01:11:21.459 --> 01:11:23.570
before we close tonight and that's in

01:11:23.570 --> 01:11:25.792
regards to the remedial investigation ,

01:11:25.792 --> 01:11:27.903
Chris Gorky and I worked together the

01:11:27.903 --> 01:11:30.070
program , the remedial investigation .

01:11:30.070 --> 01:11:32.292
I just want to inform the group of just

01:11:32.292 --> 01:11:34.459
how robust this investigation is going

01:11:34.459 --> 01:11:36.910
to be . It's gonna very much assist us

01:11:36.910 --> 01:11:40.220
in understanding uh nature instant of

01:11:40.230 --> 01:11:42.910
the P five impact at Canon . So I

01:11:42.910 --> 01:11:45.077
strongly encourage anyone who's on the

01:11:45.077 --> 01:11:47.330
call since chris is working access

01:11:47.330 --> 01:11:49.690
agreements , it's critical for us to be

01:11:49.690 --> 01:11:51.857
able to sample as many locations as we

01:11:51.857 --> 01:11:54.150
can . I . E . That would be cultural

01:11:54.150 --> 01:11:57.470
Wells , Domestic Wells Soul

01:11:57.480 --> 01:12:01.150
sediment . Uh If you look at what chris

01:12:01.150 --> 01:12:03.400
and I worked together to program as far

01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:05.850
as the remedial investigation , it's

01:12:05.850 --> 01:12:07.961
going to be quite thorough because as

01:12:07.961 --> 01:12:10.180
we well know people's constituents or

01:12:10.180 --> 01:12:14.080
ubiquitous out there . And uh with

01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:16.150
that being said , uh I appreciate

01:12:16.150 --> 01:12:19.250
christmas on moving this forward and

01:12:19.260 --> 01:12:23.060
uh I am looking forward

01:12:23.070 --> 01:12:25.600
to the data because everyone here knows

01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:27.489
that , you know , data drives the

01:12:27.489 --> 01:12:30.090
program . So with that being said , uh ,

01:12:30.100 --> 01:12:31.989
I appreciate everyone on the call

01:12:31.989 --> 01:12:34.156
tonight . It was really good to see Mr

01:12:34.156 --> 01:12:36.270
stop . Uh , Mr Bradley . Good to see

01:12:36.270 --> 01:12:38.800
you , sir . Uh and I wish everyone good

01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.190
evening over .

01:12:45.160 --> 01:12:48.210
Yeah , give me a call . We'll talk

01:12:48.210 --> 01:12:50.080
about how to get there .

01:12:53.060 --> 01:12:55.004
Thank you everyone for tonight . I

01:12:55.004 --> 01:12:56.380
appreciate your time . All right .