WEBVTT 00:11.040 --> 00:14.330 Yeah . Hello and welcome to today's 00:14.330 --> 00:16.910 evaluations training . Thank you so 00:16.910 --> 00:19.080 much for your time and we do ask three 00:19.080 --> 00:21.280 things from our audience . If you have 00:21.280 --> 00:23.420 a question or comment that isn't 00:23.420 --> 00:25.420 answered in today's training , feel 00:25.420 --> 00:27.587 free to make a micro's ticket and your 00:27.587 --> 00:29.809 ticket will be answered in 3-5 business 00:29.809 --> 00:32.031 days . Once again , once you enter your 00:32.031 --> 00:34.253 microbes ticket will be answered in 3-5 00:34.253 --> 00:37.610 business days . Lastly we asked our 00:37.610 --> 00:39.610 audience to say update in their Air 00:39.610 --> 00:42.250 Force F . I . S for this training . A F 00:42.250 --> 00:45.910 I 36-24 06 will be a reference 00:46.180 --> 00:48.180 Thank you . And let's get started . 00:49.240 --> 00:51.018 Good morning , Good afternoon . 00:51.018 --> 00:53.073 Depending on where you're joining us 00:53.073 --> 00:55.860 from , I will be the trainer for today 00:55.860 --> 00:57.582 and I'm going to be going over 00:57.582 --> 01:01.490 evaluation appeals , also known as Iraq 01:01.500 --> 01:03.611 First document . I'm going to go over 01:03.611 --> 01:05.444 with you guys is the application 01:05.444 --> 01:07.278 template , so appeal application 01:07.278 --> 01:09.389 template and this is going to be from 01:09.389 --> 01:11.444 the field perspective . And I'm just 01:11.444 --> 01:13.444 going to kind of go over what it is 01:13.444 --> 01:15.500 that we will be looking for from the 01:15.500 --> 01:17.667 Air Pc Rap point of view , Things that 01:17.667 --> 01:19.778 we would like for your application to 01:19.778 --> 01:21.889 include . And we're hoping that going 01:21.889 --> 01:23.944 over this will kind of alleviate the 01:23.944 --> 01:26.111 frustration that sometimes occurs with 01:26.111 --> 01:28.278 the rap with a lot of back and forth . 01:28.278 --> 01:30.556 So , you know , we're hoping that this , 01:30.556 --> 01:32.778 the training along with these documents 01:32.778 --> 01:34.944 being on my purse can help with that , 01:34.944 --> 01:37.056 that way you guys submit us an appeal 01:37.056 --> 01:39.111 application . That's just good to go 01:39.111 --> 01:41.056 and it can expedite the process in 01:41.056 --> 01:43.222 terms of you know , us getting it once 01:43.222 --> 01:45.167 processing it and the record being 01:45.167 --> 01:45.080 updated . You know , as quickly as 01:45.080 --> 01:47.790 possible . I'm also going to kind of 01:47.790 --> 01:49.850 just quickly explain what a rab is 01:49.850 --> 01:51.794 utilized for for those of you that 01:51.794 --> 01:55.100 maybe aren't aware or don't have a good 01:55.100 --> 01:57.100 understanding of what the rabbit is 01:57.100 --> 01:59.610 utilized for . So Iraq is utilized to 01:59.610 --> 02:02.350 make corrections to evaluations that 02:02.940 --> 02:05.107 are already a matter of record meaning 02:05.107 --> 02:07.107 they're already in the members um , 02:07.107 --> 02:10.210 product arms and there's two types of 02:10.210 --> 02:11.988 corrections really . So there's 02:11.988 --> 02:13.988 administrative corrections which is 02:13.988 --> 02:15.988 anything where you're just making a 02:15.988 --> 02:17.821 simple correction and you're not 02:17.821 --> 02:19.766 changing the content or bullets or 02:19.766 --> 02:21.710 ratings or the value of the actual 02:21.710 --> 02:23.877 evaluation . So you're simply changing 02:23.877 --> 02:26.043 someone's name was misspelled or their 02:26.043 --> 02:28.154 socials off by a couple of numbers or 02:28.154 --> 02:30.266 the reason for reports incorrect . So 02:30.266 --> 02:32.488 things that you know again don't change 02:32.488 --> 02:34.654 the content or the value of the actual 02:34.654 --> 02:36.543 evaluation . Those are considered 02:36.543 --> 02:39.070 administrative corrections . And on the 02:39.070 --> 02:41.292 second document that I'll be going with 02:41.292 --> 02:43.514 you guys , I'll go ahead and kind of um 02:43.514 --> 02:45.681 mentioned what we look for in terms of 02:45.681 --> 02:47.903 what you need to submit for those types 02:47.903 --> 02:49.848 of corrections . Then there's also 02:49.848 --> 02:52.720 content corrections which is any time 02:52.720 --> 02:54.609 you're changing content bullets , 02:54.609 --> 02:57.160 ratings , Those type of evaluations . 02:57.540 --> 02:59.818 Those are gonna always require a board . 03:00.340 --> 03:02.420 So just keep that in mind and again 03:02.430 --> 03:04.486 I'll go more in depth on that on the 03:04.486 --> 03:06.708 second document that I go over with you 03:06.708 --> 03:08.850 guys . Okay , that's pretty basically 03:08.850 --> 03:11.100 just to be rob please keep in mind the 03:11.100 --> 03:14.080 rub is not utilized to expedite an 03:14.080 --> 03:16.330 evaluation for an O P . B . So an 03:16.330 --> 03:19.250 officer promotion board a job that's 03:19.250 --> 03:21.194 not what this is . That's not what 03:21.194 --> 03:23.194 erupted lives for it simply to make 03:23.194 --> 03:26.100 corrections to a member's record . Okay . 03:26.110 --> 03:28.920 So at the very top you guys will see 03:28.920 --> 03:30.587 right here where it says I am 03:30.587 --> 03:32.809 submitting this application and then it 03:32.809 --> 03:34.642 says select one . So there's two 03:34.642 --> 03:36.698 options . It's for myself , which is 03:36.698 --> 03:38.864 any time you're you find a discrepancy 03:38.864 --> 03:40.864 in your record and you're asking to 03:40.864 --> 03:42.976 make the correction . This request is 03:42.976 --> 03:45.031 coming from you directly . If it's a 03:45.031 --> 03:47.200 third party person , it needs to be 03:47.200 --> 03:50.510 either the mpf or the CSS in accordance 03:50.510 --> 03:53.630 with the safe I reference . Okay . So 03:53.630 --> 03:56.850 someone from the mpf for CSS can submit 03:56.860 --> 04:00.150 uh , arab request on behalf of a member . 04:00.160 --> 04:04.140 Um , that's not a problem . Appear 04:04.150 --> 04:06.470 where it says member information . This 04:06.470 --> 04:09.430 is going to be the members information 04:09.440 --> 04:11.718 in which the record is being corrected . 04:11.718 --> 04:13.990 So if mps for CSS is submitting 04:13.990 --> 04:16.323 something , this isn't your information . 04:16.323 --> 04:18.546 This is still the members information . 04:18.546 --> 04:20.768 Okay , So you'll put their name , their 04:20.768 --> 04:22.712 phone number , their primary email 04:22.712 --> 04:24.934 address and the alternate email address 04:24.940 --> 04:26.996 in the member information section of 04:26.996 --> 04:30.660 the application . Okay , 04:30.660 --> 04:34.320 so for application information , this 04:34.330 --> 04:36.900 is going to be a reflection of what is 04:36.900 --> 04:39.760 reflected in Prada and arms . So 04:40.640 --> 04:42.862 Type . If you're correcting , let's say 04:42.862 --> 04:45.020 707 and that's what and what's 04:45.020 --> 04:47.460 reflected in arms , size 707 Do it put 04:47.460 --> 04:49.730 here . So you're going to put seven or 04:49.730 --> 04:51.841 7 here . You're gonna want to put the 04:51.841 --> 04:54.008 close out date that again is reflected 04:54.008 --> 04:56.174 in broad and arms . So the actual file 04:56.174 --> 04:58.341 name not what's on the O . P . R . E . 04:58.341 --> 05:00.840 P . R . So close out date would go here 05:00.860 --> 05:04.160 and then requested action . There's 05:04.170 --> 05:06.500 three types of actions that you can 05:06.500 --> 05:08.611 request . So there's a avoid a report 05:08.611 --> 05:10.722 to substitute report and then other , 05:11.240 --> 05:13.129 so if you select , avoid a report 05:13.129 --> 05:15.296 that's pretty basically implying to us 05:15.296 --> 05:17.462 that you have something that's in your 05:17.462 --> 05:19.684 record and you want it to be completely 05:19.684 --> 05:19.470 taken out . You're not going to 05:19.470 --> 05:21.526 substitute it with anything you just 05:21.526 --> 05:23.414 want to audio record . So maybe a 05:23.414 --> 05:25.637 duplicate got put in there and it's for 05:25.637 --> 05:27.803 like , you know , two years from now . 05:27.803 --> 05:29.859 Um , so you just want to take it out 05:29.859 --> 05:32.081 entirely or if you want to substitute a 05:32.081 --> 05:33.970 report which is probably the most 05:33.970 --> 05:36.137 common that is when you have something 05:36.137 --> 05:38.303 in your record , it's got , you know , 05:38.303 --> 05:40.359 things wrong with it and you want to 05:40.359 --> 05:43.670 pull that one out with a new , a new or 05:43.670 --> 05:46.110 like corrected copy . And then other , 05:46.120 --> 05:48.231 sometimes folks will just select that 05:48.231 --> 05:50.231 because we're not really sure which 05:50.231 --> 05:52.398 direction they need their appeal to go 05:52.398 --> 05:54.509 in . So they'll select other and then 05:54.509 --> 05:56.342 under requested action , they'll 05:56.342 --> 05:58.287 explain to us what they need . And 05:58.287 --> 06:00.453 again you have up to four , as you can 06:00.453 --> 06:02.564 see you have up to four items . So if 06:02.564 --> 06:04.731 you have like if your record is like a 06:04.731 --> 06:06.953 hot mess , you can go ahead and give us 06:06.953 --> 06:08.953 four different things that you want 06:08.953 --> 06:11.064 corrected in one application appeal . 06:11.064 --> 06:10.600 If you have more than that , you have 06:10.600 --> 06:12.489 to obviously submit more than one 06:12.489 --> 06:14.656 appeal requests , but you can do up to 06:14.656 --> 06:16.600 four in one request . That's not a 06:16.600 --> 06:18.840 problem . All right . So under the 06:18.840 --> 06:21.780 requested action block , this is where 06:21.780 --> 06:24.100 we kind of look for your notes to 06:24.100 --> 06:26.230 explain to us what exactly is wrong 06:26.230 --> 06:28.341 with your record and maybe what it is 06:28.341 --> 06:30.560 that you're trying to correct . So we 06:30.560 --> 06:33.110 created this template again to kind of 06:33.120 --> 06:35.890 help with the expedite of processing 06:35.900 --> 06:38.067 sometimes when things are submitted to 06:38.067 --> 06:40.067 us there , you know , Super , super 06:40.067 --> 06:42.067 lengthy . Um If you guys could make 06:42.067 --> 06:44.220 this in a list format , that is 06:44.230 --> 06:46.452 wonderful because we can just go in and 06:46.452 --> 06:48.619 check off what it is you're requesting 06:48.619 --> 06:50.508 ensure that it's within a F . I . 06:50.508 --> 06:52.563 Parameters . And we can it's just it 06:52.563 --> 06:55.640 helps expedite the process . So you 06:55.640 --> 06:57.862 would just put for example , request to 06:57.862 --> 06:59.862 remove Air Force 9 10 the close out 06:59.862 --> 07:01.529 date to reflect the following 07:01.529 --> 07:03.970 corrections uh section to block one . 07:03.970 --> 07:06.380 The duty title is wrong . They this is 07:06.380 --> 07:08.820 what it says and this is what you want 07:08.820 --> 07:11.120 to change it to and then number two . 07:11.120 --> 07:13.790 Section 12 doesn't have the radio 07:13.790 --> 07:15.846 signature . We wanted to include the 07:15.846 --> 07:18.068 radio signals so it's just short and to 07:18.068 --> 07:20.179 the point not too vague . Um you know 07:20.179 --> 07:22.068 just keep in mind we can't accept 07:22.068 --> 07:24.012 requests where you're just like my 07:24.012 --> 07:26.179 records wrong . We need to know why to 07:26.179 --> 07:26.070 ensure that what you're requesting be 07:26.070 --> 07:28.380 corrected is with the FBI policy . So 07:28.380 --> 07:30.380 always kind of give us what's wrong 07:30.380 --> 07:32.547 with it and what you want to change it 07:32.547 --> 07:34.769 to . Um so that we we we know it's good 07:34.769 --> 07:36.658 to go reason to support requested 07:36.658 --> 07:39.750 action this block . Again you can kind 07:39.750 --> 07:42.050 of give us the why . So my record is a 07:42.050 --> 07:44.730 mess and I wanted to reflect correctly 07:44.740 --> 07:47.050 or whatever your reason being for why 07:47.050 --> 07:48.883 you're requesting your record be 07:48.883 --> 07:50.939 corrected . The most common thing we 07:50.939 --> 07:53.161 see is my records messed up and I would 07:53.161 --> 07:55.217 like to fix it . That's short to the 07:55.217 --> 07:57.328 point that works for us . So the next 07:57.328 --> 07:59.383 section of the application is do you 07:59.383 --> 08:02.800 wish your case to be expedited ? So in 08:02.800 --> 08:04.856 this particular block , what we look 08:04.856 --> 08:07.190 for again from a RPc re perspective if 08:07.190 --> 08:11.040 you select yes which is right here you 08:11.050 --> 08:13.272 need to ensure that you're providing us 08:13.272 --> 08:15.383 aboard identification number . Okay . 08:15.383 --> 08:18.790 And a valley one . So um the only time 08:18.790 --> 08:22.430 the we expedite evaluation appeals is 08:22.440 --> 08:25.010 if a member is no joke meeting on O . P . 08:25.010 --> 08:27.680 B . And again you would have to select 08:27.680 --> 08:30.110 yes and you have to provide us with the 08:30.110 --> 08:32.166 board identification number . If you 08:32.166 --> 08:34.332 just select yes and then down here and 08:34.332 --> 08:36.610 reason for expediting you put you know , 08:36.610 --> 08:38.832 meeting and O . P . B . We're not going 08:38.832 --> 08:40.888 to expedite it . Um So please please 08:40.888 --> 08:43.110 please keep that in mind especially for 08:43.110 --> 08:46.280 officers . Um Again just harping on 08:46.280 --> 08:48.502 this because this is a big one , you're 08:48.502 --> 08:52.180 gonna hit yes . Um Board I . D . And 08:52.180 --> 08:54.347 then here you can you know , again you 08:54.347 --> 08:56.347 can tell us like under a reason for 08:56.347 --> 08:58.347 expediting a meeting in O . P . B . 08:58.347 --> 09:00.291 That's fine but just make sure you 09:00.291 --> 09:02.513 identification number and for about for 09:02.513 --> 09:05.610 enlisted side . Um The reason we don't 09:05.610 --> 09:08.350 really expedite is because we the 09:08.350 --> 09:10.239 turnaround time , I don't know if 09:10.239 --> 09:12.183 someone , you know , it used to be 09:12.183 --> 09:14.420 before . It used to be 90-120 days for 09:14.420 --> 09:16.587 like any rapture process , whereas now 09:16.587 --> 09:18.642 it takes like you know up to like 10 09:18.642 --> 09:20.940 days usually obviously systems for 09:20.940 --> 09:23.051 admitting and things of that nature . 09:23.051 --> 09:25.600 Um so there's really no like reason to 09:25.600 --> 09:27.489 have to expedite enlisted reports 09:27.489 --> 09:29.544 because the turnaround time is a lot 09:29.544 --> 09:31.600 quicker than what it used to be . So 09:31.600 --> 09:35.100 for application comments , this is 09:35.100 --> 09:36.989 where you'll see comments from us 09:36.989 --> 09:39.370 anytime we have something um that we're 09:39.370 --> 09:42.950 kicking it back for or were requesting . 09:42.950 --> 09:46.350 You know , maybe some extra proof of 09:46.350 --> 09:48.590 why you're making such a request or 09:48.590 --> 09:50.610 corrected copy of the of your 09:50.610 --> 09:52.832 evaluation . This is where our comments 09:52.832 --> 09:54.740 will be to you Under application 09:54.740 --> 09:56.750 comments under the additional 09:56.750 --> 09:59.790 justification clarification block in 09:59.790 --> 10:02.760 this walk . This is where we look for 10:02.760 --> 10:04.760 notes from you guys . So if we kick 10:04.760 --> 10:06.982 something back to you and then you kick 10:06.982 --> 10:09.149 it back to us . This is where we'll go 10:09.149 --> 10:11.260 to look for notes . So anything where 10:11.260 --> 10:13.427 you want to communicate something with 10:13.427 --> 10:15.649 us , please ensure that you put in this 10:15.649 --> 10:17.649 block because this is where we , we 10:17.649 --> 10:17.020 really look , we look at the whole 10:17.020 --> 10:19.020 application of course , but this is 10:19.020 --> 10:21.320 really where we like , you know , take 10:21.320 --> 10:23.431 our notes and I'm like , okay , let's 10:23.431 --> 10:25.487 see if they said anything to us . We 10:25.487 --> 10:27.709 also highly encourage that if an Mpf or 10:27.709 --> 10:29.931 CSS member is submitting an application 10:29.931 --> 10:32.540 on behalf of a member , they include 10:32.550 --> 10:34.690 their phone number in here because as 10:34.690 --> 10:36.730 stated at the very top member 10:36.730 --> 10:38.952 information , remember that this is the 10:38.952 --> 10:41.119 members information that the record is 10:41.119 --> 10:43.174 being corrected , so not necessarily 10:43.174 --> 10:45.370 DSS or MPF that submitting the 10:45.370 --> 10:47.481 application on behalf of the member . 10:47.481 --> 10:49.426 So if we try and reach out to this 10:49.426 --> 10:51.314 person , um we're not necessarily 10:51.314 --> 10:53.148 getting ahold of the person that 10:53.148 --> 10:56.030 submitted the application . So if your 10:56.040 --> 10:59.370 mpf for CSS , please please just drop 10:59.370 --> 11:01.370 your phone number in the additional 11:01.370 --> 11:03.481 justification clarification section . 11:03.481 --> 11:05.481 So that way , if unfortunately your 11:05.481 --> 11:07.481 case is kind of an expensive one or 11:07.481 --> 11:09.703 time back and forth a couple times , we 11:09.703 --> 11:11.870 can go ahead and give you a phone call 11:11.870 --> 11:13.926 and kind of discuss it and hopefully 11:13.926 --> 11:16.620 get it processed and closed out without 11:16.620 --> 11:18.787 a lot of more like back and forth . So 11:18.787 --> 11:20.953 at the very bottom we kind of just put 11:20.953 --> 11:23.120 a couple of little notes just um you 11:23.120 --> 11:25.453 know , kind of like F Y . I information . 11:25.453 --> 11:27.670 So something is stuffed , remembers , 11:27.680 --> 11:30.210 you guys will need to submit your web 11:30.210 --> 11:32.880 applications to a F Pc via the Mpf . 11:32.890 --> 11:36.320 For processing dsg tr and like a gr 11:36.330 --> 11:38.386 your applications will come to us to 11:38.386 --> 11:41.270 our pc V A V P C . Okay ? For statue 11:41.270 --> 11:44.440 remembers again you A F P C . And if 11:44.440 --> 11:46.440 you have any questions or it's your 11:46.440 --> 11:48.551 first time or you know , whatever the 11:48.551 --> 11:50.718 case may be , you can always submit an 11:50.718 --> 11:53.030 email to N G B H R and kind of get some 11:53.030 --> 11:54.197 guidance from them . 11:56.840 --> 11:59.240 Okay , uh grab applications , they must 11:59.240 --> 12:01.351 be filled out accurately and in their 12:01.351 --> 12:03.462 entirety . And in accordance with the 12:03.462 --> 12:05.400 F536 246 and again , kind of as I 12:05.400 --> 12:07.622 stated at the beginning , doing so will 12:07.622 --> 12:10.530 allow for a quick turnaround of 12:10.540 --> 12:13.350 processing the application request and 12:13.350 --> 12:15.560 getting the members record corrected 12:16.340 --> 12:18.770 possible . Okay , so this document , 12:18.780 --> 12:20.558 again , this one along with the 12:20.558 --> 12:22.780 application empathy , you guys just saw 12:22.780 --> 12:24.836 this is going to be on my papers and 12:24.836 --> 12:27.002 you guys also got copies of these when 12:27.002 --> 12:29.058 you got the invite for this training 12:29.058 --> 12:32.030 but these are F A Q S . So the red team , 12:32.040 --> 12:34.151 we kind of try to come up with things 12:34.151 --> 12:36.262 that we see a lot of in terms of like 12:36.262 --> 12:38.040 my first question tickets being 12:38.040 --> 12:40.880 submitted or cases being returned for . 12:40.890 --> 12:43.200 So I'm going to go over the hot topics 12:43.200 --> 12:45.311 out of all these . Uh pick us keep in 12:45.311 --> 12:47.311 mind that if you have like specific 12:47.311 --> 12:49.422 case scenario questions um we do kind 12:49.422 --> 12:51.589 of touch on some of those through here 12:51.589 --> 12:53.756 so you can go ahead and look at that . 12:53.756 --> 12:55.867 Um , you know whenever , but I'm just 12:55.867 --> 12:58.144 going to go over the hot topics . Okay , 12:58.144 --> 13:00.311 so first one , what is the deadline to 13:00.311 --> 13:02.256 submit all necessary documents and 13:02.256 --> 13:04.367 evidence to ensure my case meets an a 13:04.367 --> 13:07.910 rab . So it's just to keep in mind , 13:07.920 --> 13:11.250 the rams are held quarterly . So March 13:11.250 --> 13:13.640 june september and december and as I 13:13.640 --> 13:15.807 previously stated , if you're , if you 13:15.807 --> 13:17.807 have a case where you're wanting to 13:17.807 --> 13:19.918 change content so content , bullets , 13:19.918 --> 13:21.807 ratings , things of that nature , 13:21.807 --> 13:21.340 that's when you're gonna need to 13:21.340 --> 13:24.240 actually need an a rab aboard a board 13:24.240 --> 13:26.240 of your peers . Um , it's usually a 13:26.240 --> 13:28.610 panel of three , so we always have an 13:28.610 --> 13:30.900 enlisted member , an officer and we 13:30.900 --> 13:33.067 always ensure that someone from jag is 13:33.067 --> 13:35.233 on there just because it helps to have 13:35.233 --> 13:37.344 a legal perspective . So the board is 13:37.344 --> 13:39.511 always made up of at least those three 13:39.511 --> 13:41.511 individuals and the boards are held 13:41.511 --> 13:43.400 again in March june september and 13:43.400 --> 13:45.567 december . If you know your meeting at 13:45.567 --> 13:47.789 O . P . B . I highly encourage that you 13:47.789 --> 13:50.067 or you think you might be meeting in O . 13:50.067 --> 13:52.178 P . B . I highly encourage for you to 13:52.178 --> 13:54.178 start kind of reviewing your record 13:54.178 --> 13:56.178 about 90 days out even a little bit 13:56.178 --> 13:58.289 before that because again , since the 13:58.289 --> 14:00.511 boards are held quarterly , you want to 14:00.511 --> 14:02.622 ensure that you get all your all your 14:02.622 --> 14:04.622 case information submitted to us in 14:04.622 --> 14:06.844 time for us to be able to put your case 14:06.844 --> 14:08.956 together and for the board to be able 14:08.956 --> 14:08.680 to review it and come up with a 14:08.680 --> 14:11.890 decision on your case . Okay ? So for 14:11.890 --> 14:13.960 example , you have a board that's 14:13.960 --> 14:15.904 meeting in september , like you're 14:15.904 --> 14:18.071 actually meeting at opv in september , 14:18.540 --> 14:21.020 you want to ensure that all of your 14:21.020 --> 14:23.187 case information is given to us on the 14:23.187 --> 14:25.440 third friday prior to the month in 14:25.440 --> 14:27.900 which the rabble convene . Okay . And 14:27.910 --> 14:30.132 we usually hold the boards the first to 14:30.132 --> 14:32.430 the second week of each month . So 14:32.440 --> 14:34.551 again , if you're meeting A O . P . B 14:34.551 --> 14:36.718 in september , you want to ensure that 14:36.718 --> 14:38.940 you get all of your case information to 14:38.940 --> 14:41.160 us by 20 august . So the third friday 14:41.160 --> 14:44.200 of the month before that grab . All 14:44.200 --> 14:46.367 right ? So this is kind of a big one . 14:46.367 --> 14:50.250 So for some reason the status 14:50.260 --> 14:53.660 for Iraq's when we e v . A s when we 14:53.660 --> 14:55.882 kick them back to you , they say return 14:55.882 --> 14:58.620 to member closed . We requested to have 14:58.620 --> 15:00.620 this change will do to like systems 15:00.620 --> 15:02.787 being , you know , they're going to be 15:02.787 --> 15:05.009 updated and changed , we're waiting for 15:05.009 --> 15:07.176 this change to occur . So we just kind 15:07.176 --> 15:06.340 of wanted to touch on this because this 15:06.340 --> 15:09.030 is something that you know it's kind of 15:09.030 --> 15:11.270 a confusion topic . So if it says 15:11.270 --> 15:13.492 return to member post , it doesn't mean 15:13.492 --> 15:15.714 that your case is actually closed out . 15:15.714 --> 15:17.770 It just means that it's sitting with 15:17.770 --> 15:19.881 you and we return it to you with like 15:19.881 --> 15:22.103 guidance or request or whatever and you 15:22.103 --> 15:22.010 just need to update it and kick it back 15:22.010 --> 15:24.170 to us . So it does not mean that your 15:24.170 --> 15:26.392 whole ticket is closed out and that you 15:26.392 --> 15:28.670 need to submit a whole new application . 15:28.670 --> 15:30.670 Think of this kind of equivalent to 15:30.670 --> 15:32.970 when an e V E R s return to raider or 15:32.980 --> 15:34.980 return to initiator . It's the same 15:34.980 --> 15:36.980 thing . It's just simply sitting in 15:36.980 --> 15:39.202 your work bucket , you can go ahead and 15:39.202 --> 15:41.369 make any changes or adjustments to the 15:41.369 --> 15:43.591 ticket and then you can kick it back to 15:43.591 --> 15:45.647 us . What is the turnaround time for 15:45.647 --> 15:47.647 processing any web application ? So 15:47.647 --> 15:49.091 again , if it's for minor 15:49.091 --> 15:50.980 administrative corrections , it's 15:50.980 --> 15:52.980 approximately 10 calendar days . Um 15:52.980 --> 15:55.202 it's a pretty pretty quick process . Um 15:55.202 --> 15:57.036 now if you're trying to do again 15:57.036 --> 15:59.258 content and things like that , you kind 15:59.258 --> 16:01.480 of really want to get stuff to us , you 16:01.480 --> 16:03.313 know 90 days or even before that 16:03.313 --> 16:05.369 because you're going to have to meet 16:05.369 --> 16:07.670 aboard Keep in mind that that 10 16:07.670 --> 16:09.503 calendar days for administrative 16:09.503 --> 16:11.726 corrections that's under the assumption 16:11.726 --> 16:14.090 that we're not having to you know Get 16:14.090 --> 16:16.090 your case , kick it back , get your 16:16.090 --> 16:18.201 case , kick it back . So keep that in 16:18.201 --> 16:20.201 mind anytime a case comes to us and 16:20.201 --> 16:22.423 then we have to return it that we start 16:22.423 --> 16:24.330 the 10 calendar days . So what is 16:24.330 --> 16:25.941 considered ballot supporting 16:25.941 --> 16:28.163 documentation and evidence . So this is 16:28.163 --> 16:31.170 a big one . Um just keep in mind that 16:31.180 --> 16:33.402 the rabbits again it's kind of like a , 16:33.402 --> 16:35.291 it's kind of like a case . You're 16:35.291 --> 16:37.347 requesting something and you need to 16:37.347 --> 16:39.569 provide us with the evidence so that we 16:39.569 --> 16:41.791 know that your request is in accordance 16:41.791 --> 16:44.013 with the FBI policy . So for example if 16:44.013 --> 16:46.069 you're like I want to change my duty 16:46.069 --> 16:48.236 title . Not a problem . But we'll need 16:48.236 --> 16:50.850 from you in terms of the attachments to 16:50.860 --> 16:52.860 supporting documentation to support 16:52.860 --> 16:54.860 your case for your request . You're 16:54.860 --> 16:56.860 gonna want to give us the corrected 16:56.860 --> 16:58.916 copy . So you would just utilize the 16:58.916 --> 17:01.082 copy that's in your record . Currently 17:01.082 --> 17:03.193 you would administratively change the 17:03.193 --> 17:04.971 duty title . Do you detach that 17:04.971 --> 17:06.971 document for us and then you'd also 17:06.971 --> 17:09.082 give us your duty title history print 17:09.082 --> 17:12.460 out or 2096 . So that way we have the 17:12.460 --> 17:14.240 corrected copy and the evidence 17:14.240 --> 17:17.150 supporting your request . Okay . And 17:17.150 --> 17:19.510 that goes for anything If you have like 17:19.520 --> 17:21.798 for example a staff sergeant E . P . R . 17:21.798 --> 17:23.798 In your record and it really should 17:23.798 --> 17:26.020 have been a tech sergeant at that point 17:26.020 --> 17:25.870 you would give us the corrected copy to 17:25.870 --> 17:28.260 reflect as such . Um and your promotion 17:28.260 --> 17:30.390 order . So that way we have the 17:30.390 --> 17:32.557 corrected copy along with the evidence 17:32.557 --> 17:34.590 to support your request . Okay So 17:34.590 --> 17:36.312 that's for like administrative 17:36.312 --> 17:39.670 corrections for content . Again like 17:39.670 --> 17:41.781 content bullets rating things of that 17:41.781 --> 17:43.837 nature at that point you're going to 17:43.837 --> 17:45.837 want to give us as much evidence as 17:45.837 --> 17:47.726 possible because those cases need 17:47.726 --> 17:49.781 aboard and those individuals kind of 17:49.781 --> 17:51.948 use your evidence to determine whether 17:51.948 --> 17:54.003 your case is going to be approved or 17:54.003 --> 17:56.114 not . So in that case we want all the 17:56.114 --> 17:58.226 evidence as possible . Um if you feel 17:58.226 --> 18:00.337 you've been wronged or you know , you 18:00.337 --> 18:02.503 know I'm just at that point if you can 18:02.503 --> 18:04.503 give us I . G . Finding C . D . I . 18:04.503 --> 18:06.503 Findings things of that nature that 18:06.503 --> 18:08.392 helps you want to steer away from 18:08.940 --> 18:12.290 opinion based uh frs or things of that 18:12.290 --> 18:14.290 nature . Like if you give us an MFR 18:14.290 --> 18:17.100 that's opinion based and you sign it 18:17.110 --> 18:19.830 that's not really that's you know just 18:19.840 --> 18:21.784 it's not going to have a heavy and 18:21.784 --> 18:23.896 impact on the board members making an 18:23.896 --> 18:26.070 approved decision . So try and ensure 18:26.070 --> 18:28.660 that you give us factual um and non 18:28.660 --> 18:32.190 opinion based evidence . All right so 18:32.190 --> 18:34.134 this is another one . So if you're 18:34.134 --> 18:36.301 correcting an evaluation report that's 18:36.301 --> 18:38.412 over three years old um that's fine . 18:38.412 --> 18:40.579 The only thing that we require is that 18:40.579 --> 18:42.840 you provide us an MFR Um and again 18:42.840 --> 18:45.007 please keep in mind that this is three 18:45.007 --> 18:47.173 years old from when it became a matter 18:47.173 --> 18:49.284 of record . So if you have a 2013 opr 18:49.284 --> 18:51.451 but it just got submitted in 2020 . We 18:51.451 --> 18:53.784 don't need this this time of the waiver , 18:53.784 --> 18:55.562 it's three years from when that 18:55.562 --> 18:57.729 evaluation became a matter of record . 18:57.840 --> 18:59.870 So if that's the case , you simply 18:59.870 --> 19:02.037 provide us with an M . F . R . The MFR 19:02.037 --> 19:04.092 does need to be signed by the actual 19:04.092 --> 19:06.370 member whose record is being corrected . 19:06.370 --> 19:08.592 So again , if mps for CSS is submitting 19:08.592 --> 19:10.759 the application , they can be the ones 19:10.759 --> 19:12.759 to sign the time on the waiver , it 19:12.759 --> 19:14.814 needs to come from the actual member 19:14.814 --> 19:16.926 and the member needs to explain , you 19:16.926 --> 19:19.037 know , what discrepancy they found in 19:19.037 --> 19:20.926 their record and why they want to 19:20.926 --> 19:22.981 contract it . Please keep in mind if 19:22.981 --> 19:25.037 you guys kind of look down here , it 19:25.037 --> 19:27.037 states like not to mention anything 19:27.037 --> 19:29.203 failing to understand career impact in 19:29.203 --> 19:31.148 later years being discouraged from 19:31.148 --> 19:32.981 appealing this process from your 19:32.981 --> 19:35.092 superiors appears . So make sure when 19:35.092 --> 19:37.203 you write up your so far , you're not 19:37.203 --> 19:39.092 talking about any of these things 19:39.092 --> 19:41.148 because we will have to kick it back 19:41.148 --> 19:40.600 and be like , you know , sorry , this 19:40.600 --> 19:42.656 can't be mentioned and you're in the 19:42.656 --> 19:44.820 far . Um , so this right here failing 19:44.820 --> 19:46.876 to understand career impact in later 19:46.876 --> 19:48.987 years . If you mention anything about 19:48.987 --> 19:51.042 an O . P . B . Or promotion board or 19:51.042 --> 19:53.209 job opportunities , things like that , 19:53.209 --> 19:55.487 it's gonna get kicked back . So please , 19:55.487 --> 19:57.709 you know , don't , don't mention that . 19:57.709 --> 19:59.764 Don't say I did describing my record 19:59.764 --> 20:01.709 for an O . P . B . Or I'm about to 20:01.709 --> 20:03.931 apply for a job and I was doing a scrub 20:03.931 --> 20:06.330 because that falls under this and we 20:06.330 --> 20:08.552 kind of get this question a lot . If we 20:08.552 --> 20:10.886 have a template for you guys to utilize ? 20:10.886 --> 20:12.774 We do not . So you'll simply just 20:12.774 --> 20:14.774 utilize the tongue and quill um and 20:14.774 --> 20:16.886 that's how you'll make the MFr tongue 20:16.886 --> 20:18.997 and will make sure the member signs . 20:18.997 --> 20:21.163 It doesn't talk about any of the three 20:21.163 --> 20:23.386 things that they mentioned up above and 20:23.386 --> 20:25.740 it should be . There you go . So this 20:25.740 --> 20:28.770 is also another hot topic . Does he rob 20:28.780 --> 20:30.836 maintain harder digital copies of my 20:30.836 --> 20:32.950 case information after it after its 20:32.950 --> 20:36.780 method board . So again , you know , 20:36.780 --> 20:39.002 maybe some of you guys have experienced 20:39.002 --> 20:41.058 this but if your case gets denied at 20:41.058 --> 20:42.947 the arab level , you're more than 20:42.947 --> 20:45.510 welcome to submit a new we rob with new 20:45.510 --> 20:49.020 evidence um or you can go ahead and 20:49.020 --> 20:51.131 submit a BcM are so if you submit any 20:51.131 --> 20:53.020 rabbit gets tonight , you're next 20:53.020 --> 20:55.260 avenue is BCM are uh please please 20:55.260 --> 20:57.482 please keep in mind that we do not hold 20:57.482 --> 20:59.816 any , we don't hold any of the evidence . 20:59.816 --> 21:02.093 We don't hold anything in terms of the , 21:02.093 --> 21:04.540 of the outcome of the appeal . So you 21:04.540 --> 21:06.651 need to make sure that you hold on to 21:06.651 --> 21:08.762 any of the evidence that you supplied 21:08.762 --> 21:10.873 to us to grab , make sure you keep it 21:10.873 --> 21:12.984 on hand and you have it . So that way 21:12.984 --> 21:15.096 when you submit your VCF are you have 21:15.096 --> 21:17.262 that documentation because we will not 21:17.262 --> 21:16.890 have it for you . We can't provide it 21:16.890 --> 21:20.450 to you once the case is approved and I 21:20.450 --> 21:22.890 whatever whatever the turnout is , we 21:22.900 --> 21:24.956 get rid of all of that information . 21:25.740 --> 21:28.170 Does anyone have any questions 21:29.340 --> 21:33.150 um Chief up open ? Oh no worries , I 21:33.150 --> 21:35.510 just wanted to um give just a little 21:35.510 --> 21:38.040 bit more to the audience about um when 21:38.040 --> 21:40.262 you mentioned the board I . D . In case 21:40.262 --> 21:42.207 folks don't know where to find the 21:42.207 --> 21:44.151 board I . D . Um For those officer 21:44.151 --> 21:46.318 promotion boards . So any if it's rama 21:46.318 --> 21:48.373 it would be on the officer promotion 21:48.373 --> 21:50.429 guidance that comes out for the Roma 21:50.429 --> 21:52.596 board . Um if it's a like unit vacancy 21:52.596 --> 21:54.762 it will be on the 89-1 at the top . So 21:54.762 --> 21:56.873 I just wanted to throw that out there 21:56.873 --> 21:56.670 in case any folks were wondering . Well 21:56.670 --> 21:58.970 where do I find that at ? Um Still on 21:58.970 --> 22:01.950 that out there . Over thank you chief . 22:03.640 --> 22:07.620 Uh huh . So again if you guys um 22:07.630 --> 22:09.686 systems aren't permitting you to ask 22:09.686 --> 22:11.852 questions or if you can't think of any 22:11.852 --> 22:14.074 questions right now , you guys are more 22:14.074 --> 22:13.760 than welcome to submit the microbes 22:13.760 --> 22:15.760 tickets . Um And again I would just 22:15.760 --> 22:17.982 highly encouraged for the subject . You 22:17.982 --> 22:20.650 put the rab virtual training question 22:20.660 --> 22:22.827 that way we can go ahead and make sure 22:22.827 --> 22:25.049 that he wraps me answers your questions 22:25.240 --> 22:28.090 and again Please allow 3-5 business 22:28.090 --> 22:31.900 days for us to respond . Okay 22:31.910 --> 22:34.132 well thank you for your time and I hope 22:34.132 --> 22:35.770 you guys have a great day . Okay