WEBVTT 00:04.440 --> 00:06.496 So we talked about the importance of 00:06.496 --> 00:08.570 the oath . We talked about a 00:08.580 --> 00:10.900 description of impermissible behaviors . 00:10.910 --> 00:13.021 And if you have a further question on 00:13.021 --> 00:14.854 what exactly those impermissible 00:14.854 --> 00:17.080 behaviors are , I know we're gonna make 00:17.090 --> 00:19.930 this uh this playbook extremism stand 00:19.930 --> 00:22.520 down playbook available to the entire 00:22.520 --> 00:24.710 wing and that has some clearly 00:24.720 --> 00:28.240 delineated uh dues and don't views . Uh 00:28.250 --> 00:30.306 we articulated some of those today . 00:30.310 --> 00:32.310 And the last thing I'd like to talk 00:32.310 --> 00:35.270 about focus on procedures for reporting 00:35.270 --> 00:37.159 suspected or actual impermissible 00:37.159 --> 00:39.830 behaviors . Influence with Department 00:39.830 --> 00:43.560 of Defense instruction 13 25 06 . 00:44.040 --> 00:47.710 And really what uh trying to get 00:47.710 --> 00:49.890 after recognizing , it's not just 00:49.890 --> 00:51.834 reporting right ? It's it's beyond 00:51.834 --> 00:54.930 recognizing responding and then 00:54.930 --> 00:58.300 reporting . Um So the key to me is the 00:58.300 --> 01:00.356 recognition portion because we don't 01:00.356 --> 01:02.680 know what we don't know we think . And 01:02.690 --> 01:04.634 on social media we may have seen a 01:04.634 --> 01:06.746 tweet , we may have seen a opposed to 01:06.746 --> 01:08.968 something that just seemed a little bit 01:08.968 --> 01:11.023 of color , but we don't know what it 01:11.023 --> 01:13.023 meets the threshold of this and not 01:13.023 --> 01:15.357 everything is going to think right . Um , 01:15.357 --> 01:18.750 So if you recognize language actions or 01:18.750 --> 01:20.417 associations , you find to be 01:20.417 --> 01:23.230 impermissible behavior based on what we 01:23.230 --> 01:25.830 talked about earlier , you must act 01:25.840 --> 01:27.673 regardless of rank or position , 01:27.673 --> 01:30.050 military or civilian status . Now , 01:30.060 --> 01:31.893 again , this is for our civilian 01:31.893 --> 01:34.004 members as well . And I will tell you 01:34.004 --> 01:35.949 one of the questions is how do you 01:35.949 --> 01:37.671 resolve impermissible behavior 01:37.671 --> 01:39.671 exhibited by our Air Force civilian 01:39.671 --> 01:41.560 employees ? Again , our Air Force 01:41.560 --> 01:43.782 civilian employees are just that . They 01:43.782 --> 01:45.560 are Department of the Air Force 01:45.560 --> 01:47.616 civilian employees . And so although 01:47.616 --> 01:49.949 they don't follow you see MJ like we do , 01:49.949 --> 01:52.060 they do fall under uh regulations and 01:52.060 --> 01:54.770 instructions that uh dictate their 01:54.770 --> 01:56.930 conduct while in civilian statuses 01:56.940 --> 01:59.920 would . And so there helped to 01:59.930 --> 02:03.850 very similar same and similar 02:03.850 --> 02:05.850 standards under their guidelines as 02:05.850 --> 02:07.906 well . The same standard , different 02:07.906 --> 02:09.906 adjudicating methods , hours as you 02:09.906 --> 02:12.450 Sanjay and there's no uh construction . 02:13.540 --> 02:16.300 So when you recognize impermissible 02:16.300 --> 02:18.467 behaviors are some ways to respond and 02:18.467 --> 02:21.020 report the impermissible behavior . If 02:21.020 --> 02:23.480 your command chain is engaging in in 02:23.490 --> 02:26.470 the impermissible behavior then use one 02:26.470 --> 02:28.414 of the following entities Security 02:28.414 --> 02:31.560 forces office of special investigations 02:31.560 --> 02:35.150 or I . G . Hardline . Right . Mhm . 02:36.640 --> 02:39.470 Sorry . So what what is what is that 02:39.480 --> 02:42.620 first part ? That recognition ? That 02:42.620 --> 02:44.787 recognition I think is definitely what 02:44.787 --> 02:46.953 we talked about in the last portion is 02:46.953 --> 02:49.176 are those informational behaviors ? And 02:49.176 --> 02:51.009 if you have a question , I would 02:51.009 --> 02:52.953 encourage you to reach out to your 02:52.953 --> 02:55.120 shirt , I'd encourage you to reach out 02:55.120 --> 02:57.342 to your command team . Uh encourage you 02:57.342 --> 02:59.676 to reach out to one of us quite frankly . 02:59.676 --> 03:02.610 Um and kind of get a vector check , I'm 03:02.610 --> 03:05.380 looking on seeing this . And can you 03:05.380 --> 03:07.491 help me figure out if it rises to the 03:07.491 --> 03:09.658 level of this impermissible behavior . 03:09.658 --> 03:11.880 And we'll sit down together we'll crack 03:11.880 --> 03:14.047 open the the uh the book and we'll say 03:14.047 --> 03:15.880 hey doesn't meet this particular 03:15.880 --> 03:18.910 standard and if it doesn't and it's and 03:18.920 --> 03:21.142 there's something just you know you got 03:21.142 --> 03:23.309 your spider senses on then it might be 03:23.309 --> 03:25.309 something else . And we can address 03:25.309 --> 03:27.620 that through through our channels . But 03:27.630 --> 03:30.650 if it's one of these um impermissible 03:30.650 --> 03:33.070 behavior for an extremist ideology , 03:33.080 --> 03:36.210 supremacist ideology then we ask that 03:36.210 --> 03:38.310 you go through us as well . Your 03:38.310 --> 03:40.643 command chain let your grand chain . No . 03:40.643 --> 03:42.643 Uh but you you want to report it to 03:42.643 --> 03:45.060 security forces Os . I . Office of 03:45.060 --> 03:46.949 special Investigations or I . G . 03:46.949 --> 03:49.116 Hotline um That I . G . Hotline is one 03:49.116 --> 03:51.420 of your valuable tool as well . If you 03:51.420 --> 03:53.309 don't know who your screen forces 03:53.309 --> 03:56.050 remembers who you know who your local O . 03:56.050 --> 03:58.830 S . I . Agent is . Your I . G . Hotline 03:58.830 --> 04:01.540 is in in pretty much every squadron has 04:01.540 --> 04:04.100 a bolt import with their G . Online . 04:04.110 --> 04:06.540 So that's that's a excellent recourse . 04:06.550 --> 04:09.540 And again I think the way this is teed 04:09.540 --> 04:11.780 up is that if it's in your command 04:11.780 --> 04:13.970 chain is engaging that you're welcome 04:13.970 --> 04:16.260 to bypass your command chain and go to 04:16.260 --> 04:19.060 those one of those three uh resources . 04:19.840 --> 04:21.173 Any questions on that . 04:23.840 --> 04:26.750 Now I will tell you in a broad general 04:26.760 --> 04:30.680 discussion . Um . Uh huh . So 04:30.680 --> 04:32.910 this was this was born out of the 04:32.920 --> 04:34.990 January six rides right ? That's 04:36.540 --> 04:39.350 undeniable . That was the catalyst if 04:39.350 --> 04:42.000 you will that have the Secretary of 04:42.000 --> 04:44.400 Defense profligate to not line this 04:44.410 --> 04:47.520 extremism stand and the Department of 04:47.530 --> 04:49.752 the Air Force is on board . I will tell 04:49.752 --> 04:51.974 you that our reserve command leadership 04:51.974 --> 04:53.910 is 100% on board . In the way of 04:53.910 --> 04:56.340 redemption Scobie . A 10th Air Force 04:56.340 --> 04:58.451 Command leadership is on board in the 04:58.451 --> 05:00.562 way of major general uh , Morgan John 05:00.562 --> 05:02.673 Morgan as I alluded to earlier is has 05:02.673 --> 05:04.920 shared with us his personal vignette of 05:04.920 --> 05:08.260 a of a colleague that has since retired 05:08.640 --> 05:11.140 an airman that flew with him and he's 05:11.140 --> 05:13.362 deployed the number of times and he has 05:13.362 --> 05:15.307 seen that this airman has gone his 05:15.307 --> 05:17.473 retirement , excuse me , has gone down 05:17.473 --> 05:19.640 a rabbit hole that he is uncomfortable 05:19.640 --> 05:21.807 with . And so he's talked to him . And 05:21.807 --> 05:23.973 in the years that this airman has gone 05:23.973 --> 05:26.196 down , this rabbit hole potentially has 05:27.640 --> 05:30.480 worry that they may alienate their 05:30.490 --> 05:32.546 family members , right ? And thereby 05:32.546 --> 05:35.210 alienating our community . Yeah . Um , 05:35.210 --> 05:38.080 now as a civilian , as a , as a retiree , 05:38.090 --> 05:40.720 there's only so much we can do . But in 05:40.720 --> 05:42.664 the Air Force , for folks that are 05:42.664 --> 05:45.470 active in uh uniform or in civilian 05:45.470 --> 05:47.470 status , they're definitely there's 05:47.470 --> 05:49.803 definite reports that we a little tubes . 05:49.803 --> 05:51.920 Having said that , I will tell you my 05:51.920 --> 05:54.031 personal life , but I have not seen , 05:54.140 --> 05:56.780 and I'm not naive to believe that it 05:56.780 --> 05:58.950 doesn't happen . But growing in the 05:58.950 --> 06:00.950 ranks , I have not seen that . I've 06:00.950 --> 06:03.172 heard anecdotally from active component 06:03.172 --> 06:05.339 counterparts . I've heard from reserve 06:05.339 --> 06:07.780 counterparts that they have not seen a 06:07.780 --> 06:10.580 huge spike in it . Again , we 06:10.580 --> 06:12.802 absolutely do understand and appreciate 06:12.802 --> 06:15.024 that it happens and it affects us , and 06:15.024 --> 06:17.280 if it affects one of us , it affects 06:17.280 --> 06:19.420 all of us as a family . And so that's 06:19.420 --> 06:21.700 exactly what we're doing this . Um But 06:21.700 --> 06:24.320 I'll open up the floor to see uh for 06:24.320 --> 06:27.090 anybody that has any vignettes or has 06:27.090 --> 06:29.150 seen it or not seen it . I'd like to 06:29.160 --> 06:31.770 get a pulse temperature check of the of 06:31.770 --> 06:35.050 our airmen to see the ball's in your 06:35.050 --> 06:37.890 court have used have seen it . And has 06:37.890 --> 06:39.668 it affected your lives ? And is 06:39.668 --> 06:41.779 something that you're going to show ? 06:43.640 --> 06:46.430 Yes , sir . Um I have a point to this , 06:46.430 --> 06:50.070 so , um I haven't noticed any um 06:50.080 --> 06:52.700 deliberate extremism in my community , 06:52.710 --> 06:55.380 but around the events that you were 06:55.380 --> 06:58.250 talking about earlier of january , I 06:58.250 --> 07:00.417 had noticed some social media postings 07:00.417 --> 07:03.030 from my local community , my 07:03.030 --> 07:05.450 neighborhood kind of watch type of 07:05.450 --> 07:07.580 social media platforms where people 07:07.580 --> 07:09.636 would post my dog's missing somebody 07:09.636 --> 07:11.747 helping something like that . So , on 07:11.747 --> 07:13.636 those forums , there was a couple 07:13.636 --> 07:15.636 instances where somebody would post 07:15.636 --> 07:18.960 some extremist ideologies indicating 07:19.130 --> 07:21.700 that they were in preparation 07:21.710 --> 07:24.400 preparation for some revolt or 07:24.410 --> 07:26.410 political agenda and that they were 07:26.410 --> 07:28.577 ready to take up arms and we're trying 07:28.577 --> 07:30.670 to solicit further people , find out 07:30.670 --> 07:32.781 who in their community was on board . 07:32.840 --> 07:36.360 Um that was just one post . Um 07:36.840 --> 07:38.951 a lot of people came in opposition to 07:38.951 --> 07:41.118 it , but , you know , most people just 07:41.118 --> 07:43.284 kind of backed away , like they didn't 07:43.284 --> 07:45.451 want to get involved and I didn't know 07:45.451 --> 07:47.618 what my um ability to get involved was 07:47.618 --> 07:49.673 either because I didn't start social 07:49.673 --> 07:53.100 media attack on someone . So , but it 07:53.100 --> 07:56.080 does , it does give pause to me and the 07:56.080 --> 07:58.580 security of my neighborhood . And you 07:58.580 --> 08:00.636 know , what , is that the pace of my 08:00.636 --> 08:02.691 community ? Is that is that the with 08:02.691 --> 08:05.410 the general presences or is it vastly 08:05.410 --> 08:07.410 against that ? And it's with social 08:07.410 --> 08:09.632 media and echo chambers and things like 08:09.632 --> 08:11.743 that . It's very hard to to know what 08:11.743 --> 08:13.854 sort of the reality is and what other 08:13.854 --> 08:16.021 people are thinking , what the general 08:16.021 --> 08:19.660 population is thinking . So , yeah , I 08:19.660 --> 08:22.020 think engagement in those types of 08:22.030 --> 08:24.141 things , like a subtle engagement for 08:24.141 --> 08:26.360 those types of individuals that are 08:26.360 --> 08:28.471 kind of going , they're going to that 08:28.471 --> 08:30.527 outlier to say , kind of put them in 08:30.527 --> 08:32.749 check to say , no , this is this is not 08:32.749 --> 08:34.693 acceptable behavior in some way or 08:34.693 --> 08:36.860 another . Whether it's posting back to 08:36.860 --> 08:38.860 their social media or just engaging 08:38.860 --> 08:41.027 more with your community and even with 08:41.027 --> 08:43.082 your troops , you know , um and your 08:43.082 --> 08:45.730 airmen and guardians two kind of say 08:45.730 --> 08:47.619 that that's unacceptable behavior 08:47.619 --> 08:49.580 before it becomes something that 08:49.580 --> 08:51.950 they're going to go down there has 08:53.540 --> 08:55.484 to that end , I will tell you that 08:56.340 --> 08:58.284 first got the seat , I received an 08:58.284 --> 09:00.507 antiterrorism Force Protection briefing 09:00.540 --> 09:02.850 from the base , especially on the side . 09:03.240 --> 09:07.090 Um , the shooting Gibson PLC at 09:07.100 --> 09:10.220 that briefing back in September of 2020 09:10.460 --> 09:12.682 distinctive fall there too . You know , 09:12.940 --> 09:15.051 extremist organizations , supremacist 09:15.051 --> 09:16.829 organizations that the base was 09:16.829 --> 09:19.290 tracking , be interesting to see if 09:19.300 --> 09:21.770 we've seen a spike , I intend to get 09:21.770 --> 09:23.937 that briefing again and we'll all make 09:23.937 --> 09:27.670 sure miss power sends out community 09:27.680 --> 09:30.350 communicate if you will kind of outline 09:30.350 --> 09:32.720 some of those extremist groups that 09:32.720 --> 09:35.690 we've seen . So that absolutely is 09:35.700 --> 09:38.510 known groups in the community that we 09:38.510 --> 09:42.200 have to be aware of and cognizant . But 09:42.210 --> 09:45.020 have we seen anything in our ranks that 09:45.030 --> 09:47.370 you'd be willing to share that's either 09:47.370 --> 09:49.860 affected you personally or tangentially 09:50.640 --> 09:53.860 be curious and interested here ? 09:55.040 --> 09:57.262 Well , one of the things I talked about 09:57.262 --> 10:00.030 my my unit and some other military 10:00.030 --> 10:02.610 members about that kind of topic was 10:02.610 --> 10:06.550 that members tend to be very good at 10:06.550 --> 10:09.770 hiding that type of behavior . So in 10:09.770 --> 10:12.720 some articles that I read , many 10:13.240 --> 10:15.560 commanders Had really thought that it 10:15.560 --> 10:18.930 was zero . Um , you know , extremism or 10:18.930 --> 10:21.960 dissension in the ranks when they're 10:21.960 --> 10:24.650 really not looking hard enough or 10:25.140 --> 10:27.620 people are just hiding it well enough 10:27.630 --> 10:31.600 to go about their daily lives and just 10:31.680 --> 10:34.630 not be noticed . Sure . So I don't know 10:34.630 --> 10:36.741 how much that , you know , it takes . 10:36.741 --> 10:38.963 If you find one person that seems to be 10:38.963 --> 10:40.630 doing it , then how what what 10:40.630 --> 10:42.686 statistically does that mean for the 10:42.686 --> 10:44.797 whole of people that are just our our 10:44.797 --> 10:47.019 intent absolutely extrapolate that to a 10:47.019 --> 10:49.720 department of millions of soldiers , 10:49.720 --> 10:53.160 sailors and gardens , postcards , right ? 10:54.260 --> 10:56.427 And you don't want that to spread . So 10:56.427 --> 10:58.538 you don't want those people to have a 10:58.538 --> 11:00.900 voice and they start infecting or 11:00.900 --> 11:03.011 spreading that type of thing . So you 11:03.011 --> 11:05.067 want to obviously dip it in the butt 11:05.067 --> 11:08.560 early trying . Mhm . Make it known that 11:08.560 --> 11:11.840 that's not accept . Yeah , 11:13.540 --> 11:15.707 that's something else on top of that . 11:15.707 --> 11:18.040 Uh There's about a year , two years ago . 11:18.040 --> 11:21.480 Um Long story short , we found out that 11:21.480 --> 11:23.536 we were working with someone who was 11:23.536 --> 11:26.010 involved , that kind of stuff . Um I 11:26.010 --> 11:28.150 worked with the individual part of it 11:28.770 --> 11:31.890 and I didn't have a clue whatsoever 11:31.900 --> 11:34.233 until the local newspapers and so forth . 11:34.233 --> 11:36.233 You know , following the story , it 11:36.233 --> 11:39.920 came out oh for that instance , I 11:39.920 --> 11:43.820 mean it was more shock a little 11:43.820 --> 11:47.220 bit anger . Um But the good part was 11:47.230 --> 11:49.286 that leadership did step in and they 11:49.286 --> 11:51.940 acted pretty quickly . Uh huh . As far 11:51.940 --> 11:54.490 as quality rumors and and whatnot . So 11:54.490 --> 11:56.379 that was definitely appreciate it 11:58.840 --> 12:00.940 actually . And I can be fully 12:00.940 --> 12:03.390 transparent with you at our level that 12:03.400 --> 12:05.580 nothing has come up . You know our 12:05.580 --> 12:07.650 level for a particular incident on 12:07.660 --> 12:09.493 chairman that is engaged in this 12:09.493 --> 12:11.660 behavior . Again , I'm not so naive as 12:11.660 --> 12:13.827 to think that that doesn't go on . But 12:13.827 --> 12:17.460 I will tell you is this um in my 12:18.540 --> 12:20.707 my advantage point that I'd like to do 12:20.707 --> 12:22.873 is you know we're gonna happen right ? 12:22.873 --> 12:25.040 We're gonna have groups like that . We 12:25.040 --> 12:27.151 have social media . What can we do as 12:27.151 --> 12:29.373 leaders , folks that wear the uniform , 12:29.373 --> 12:31.484 What can we do , fill that vacuum and 12:31.484 --> 12:33.596 counteract that ? And I will tell you 12:33.596 --> 12:35.818 the tools that we have in our tool tool 12:35.818 --> 12:37.818 chest , all those resiliency things 12:37.818 --> 12:39.762 that we've talked about , our core 12:39.762 --> 12:41.762 values to keep hitting home . Those 12:41.762 --> 12:43.873 types of things that I think that the 12:43.873 --> 12:45.929 onesies , twosies that are harboring 12:45.929 --> 12:48.040 those types of pots and uh we'll have 12:48.040 --> 12:50.262 it will give them pause . Hey , this is 12:50.262 --> 12:50.260 not the organization to bring it up 12:50.640 --> 12:52.600 because I'll be met with immediate 12:52.600 --> 12:54.322 resistance , right ? If we can 12:54.322 --> 12:56.378 inculcated that culture , just say , 12:56.378 --> 12:58.267 hey , I get it . If you have that 12:58.267 --> 13:01.830 thought . Yeah , you got through the 13:01.840 --> 13:04.007 because every remember the part of the 13:04.007 --> 13:06.380 Air Force and Air Force . I remember 13:06.380 --> 13:08.547 reading someone goes through a vetting 13:08.547 --> 13:10.436 process to raise their hand . But 13:10.436 --> 13:13.780 medical , psychological , um physical , 13:13.790 --> 13:15.846 everything . We go through a vetting 13:15.846 --> 13:18.068 process . We may have missed that . But 13:18.068 --> 13:20.123 I've but I think the best way to get 13:20.123 --> 13:22.123 after that is to show them That the 13:22.123 --> 13:23.957 culture that we have in the 3/10 13:23.957 --> 13:26.290 baseline is such , that that's just not . 13:26.290 --> 13:29.440 And either keep it at home or , you 13:29.440 --> 13:31.720 know , figure it out because it's 13:31.720 --> 13:35.000 simply that you will not gain traction 13:35.010 --> 13:37.177 in our , in our flights , you will not 13:37.177 --> 13:39.288 gain traction in our squad . You will 13:39.288 --> 13:41.288 not gain traction our group and you 13:41.288 --> 13:43.343 certainly won't gain traction . Um , 13:43.730 --> 13:46.460 that's I think the culture we want to 13:46.840 --> 13:50.120 exhibit and give those airmen or 13:50.120 --> 13:52.231 department , therefore civilians give 13:52.231 --> 13:54.398 them pause to think , hey , maybe this 13:54.398 --> 13:56.564 is not where I come from . This is not 13:56.564 --> 13:58.676 where I installed those values . Um , 13:58.676 --> 14:01.250 and if we do see that , then of course 14:01.250 --> 14:03.940 we have recourse supported to us . I 14:03.940 --> 14:07.000 have that the Department of Defense 14:07.000 --> 14:10.830 instruction stupid . You may 14:10.830 --> 14:12.997 not know the answer to this question . 14:13.940 --> 14:17.350 What is statistically like what 14:18.340 --> 14:20.229 you know in the military has been 14:20.229 --> 14:22.340 identified that this many people have 14:22.340 --> 14:24.451 been court martialed or whatever as a 14:24.451 --> 14:26.451 whole versus on the civilian side . 14:26.451 --> 14:28.618 Because I'd be interested to see where 14:28.618 --> 14:30.673 statistics . Sure . All right versus 14:30.673 --> 14:32.729 sorry , will tell you that's exactly 14:32.729 --> 14:34.673 one of the questions that's in the 14:34.673 --> 14:36.673 public of their standards . And the 14:36.673 --> 14:38.840 answer to that from the secretary . Of 14:38.840 --> 14:40.784 course that we don't we have never 14:40.784 --> 14:42.784 measured that particular . Uh We've 14:42.784 --> 14:45.600 never captured that . Yeah . They're 14:45.600 --> 14:47.767 going they're doing that now . They're 14:47.767 --> 14:50.570 looking at that now . Uh statistics . 14:50.580 --> 14:54.150 You don't Yeah . The short answer . We 14:54.150 --> 14:57.750 have not applied those that 14:57.750 --> 15:01.730 rationale co out most of court 15:01.730 --> 15:05.150 martial older no post post . And I'd be 15:05.150 --> 15:07.428 interested to see , you know , army vs . 15:07.428 --> 15:11.060 Air force versus Face command versus A . 15:11.060 --> 15:13.227 T . C . Type of thing . Like that type 15:13.227 --> 15:15.116 of situation . So that way we can 15:15.116 --> 15:17.338 pinpoint where this might be starting . 15:17.338 --> 15:20.060 I can tell you that 15:21.340 --> 15:24.450 from the things I've read that . Mhm . 15:25.040 --> 15:28.350 Capital riots on January six . Um 15:29.240 --> 15:31.490 I haven't seen any statistics but the 15:31.500 --> 15:33.420 common theme is that the military 15:33.560 --> 15:36.440 supposed to have military backgrounds 15:36.680 --> 15:39.760 are borrowed paste folks that 15:40.340 --> 15:44.060 didn't in that Yeah , 15:44.070 --> 15:47.040 we sound outsized influence of folks 15:47.040 --> 15:49.207 that have some semblance of military . 15:49.640 --> 15:52.710 My understand . I think that's what 15:52.710 --> 15:54.160 kind of propelled us to . 15:56.840 --> 16:00.510 Mhm . So you've 16:00.510 --> 16:04.440 listed , you know , specific examples 16:04.450 --> 16:06.370 of extremists , things that are 16:06.370 --> 16:09.070 impermissible . But I think at the core 16:09.070 --> 16:11.440 here we're really talking about the sad 16:11.440 --> 16:15.090 fact that people gradually intent to 16:15.090 --> 16:17.290 subscribe to right or intelligence of 16:17.290 --> 16:20.800 the and then you know , hate can it 16:20.810 --> 16:22.754 takes many forms of many different 16:22.754 --> 16:24.754 ideologies , different sides of the 16:24.754 --> 16:26.754 spectrum . So I'm just curious . So 16:26.754 --> 16:25.940 someone mentioned major shoulder 16:25.940 --> 16:27.884 mentioned engagement earlier . I'm 16:27.884 --> 16:30.051 curious as to whether the team has any 16:30.051 --> 16:32.730 idea of how to engage hate early on 16:32.730 --> 16:34.508 within the ranks . What kind of 16:34.508 --> 16:36.452 strategies , what kind of approach 16:36.452 --> 16:38.452 would you take to kind of get at it 16:38.452 --> 16:41.950 early on ? I guess I 16:41.950 --> 16:45.240 started learning it Early as a child . 16:45.250 --> 16:47.361 I grew up with my father being in the 16:47.361 --> 16:50.620 army for almost 30 and he saw a lot of 16:50.620 --> 16:54.140 stuff , he was Vietnam generation and 16:54.520 --> 16:57.300 one of the things that he told me that 16:57.310 --> 16:59.820 kind of stuck in my head was we're in 16:59.820 --> 17:03.660 the field , we all believe red and 17:03.660 --> 17:05.740 that is stuck with . And that is 17:05.740 --> 17:07.962 something that I guess in some ways she 17:07.962 --> 17:09.962 performed trying to impart on other 17:09.962 --> 17:12.960 people because I guess I don't , 17:14.130 --> 17:16.450 it's for lack of better terms . I see 17:16.450 --> 17:18.450 this uniform on people , I see this 17:18.450 --> 17:22.250 flag on and we're all one family and 17:22.250 --> 17:24.250 that's how I've always looked at it 17:24.250 --> 17:26.690 because my father , so that's just 17:26.690 --> 17:28.857 something that's ingrained to me and I 17:28.857 --> 17:31.079 try and keep that same mentality when I 17:31.079 --> 17:33.134 worked with everybody . That's right 17:33.134 --> 17:35.220 and hope that maybe a little bit of 17:35.220 --> 17:39.160 that rub off . Absolutely thank 17:39.160 --> 17:43.050 you . I think something to 17:43.050 --> 17:45.161 add to that and you bring up a really 17:45.161 --> 17:47.106 excellent point . But is that hate 17:47.106 --> 17:49.360 doesn't exist in a vacuum . Um , social 17:49.360 --> 17:51.416 media is designed to show users what 17:51.416 --> 17:53.638 they want to see , not necessarily what 17:53.638 --> 17:55.770 they need to see . Um , so in that , 17:56.140 --> 17:58.418 you know , guiding light , so to speak , 17:58.418 --> 18:00.640 I think what's really important is that 18:00.640 --> 18:02.696 when we were in this uniform , we're 18:02.696 --> 18:04.584 building trust in our communities 18:04.584 --> 18:06.640 outside as well as in the military . 18:06.640 --> 18:08.807 And so people look at us when they see 18:08.807 --> 18:10.973 us , they stopped consistency with our 18:10.973 --> 18:13.360 core values and so we're praying away 18:13.360 --> 18:15.582 from that . It becomes difficult for us 18:15.582 --> 18:17.693 to carry out our mission . It becomes 18:17.693 --> 18:19.749 difficult for us to take care of our 18:19.749 --> 18:21.916 people and it becomes difficult for us 18:21.916 --> 18:24.193 to effectively grow and be better . Um , 18:24.193 --> 18:24.020 so I think that's something really 18:24.020 --> 18:26.076 important to be cognizant of is when 18:26.076 --> 18:27.798 we're having these discussions 18:27.798 --> 18:29.964 recognizing that anybody can be a part 18:29.964 --> 18:32.131 of it . Um , and it doesn't exist with 18:32.131 --> 18:34.187 justice all set because we're all on 18:34.187 --> 18:34.060 social media and we're all influenced 18:34.060 --> 18:36.060 by the things we see on the Earth . 18:39.640 --> 18:41.696 Yes , sir , thank you . I would just 18:41.696 --> 18:43.751 encourage members and even challenge 18:43.751 --> 18:46.910 some airmen by basically saying if you 18:46.920 --> 18:50.530 find , if you find yourself in an echo 18:50.530 --> 18:53.990 chamber , um , if you find yourself 18:54.000 --> 18:55.722 with some of these ideals just 18:55.722 --> 18:57.944 repeating , it doesn't matter what side 18:57.944 --> 19:00.056 of the spectrum could be on . I would 19:00.056 --> 19:02.670 challenge anyone to seek out other 19:02.670 --> 19:05.600 perspectives and seek out other sides 19:05.600 --> 19:07.600 of the story so that you're getting 19:07.600 --> 19:10.840 some sort of balance . Um because my 19:10.840 --> 19:13.880 grandfather and other influence from my 19:13.880 --> 19:15.880 family and everything , you do have 19:15.880 --> 19:18.590 moderation so and even moderation that 19:18.590 --> 19:22.060 gates action . So in the in moderation 19:22.060 --> 19:25.600 in moderation . But but 19:25.610 --> 19:28.450 I know that tool has always helped me 19:28.940 --> 19:32.460 because having some family members that 19:32.470 --> 19:35.240 are very passionate about what they 19:35.240 --> 19:38.610 believe in . Sometimes it's good to at 19:38.610 --> 19:40.820 least seek out other perspectives and 19:40.820 --> 19:43.042 other views because of how I was raised 19:43.240 --> 19:47.110 versus however thank 19:47.110 --> 19:47.660 you . 19:47.670 --> 19:51.610 I would 19:51.610 --> 19:53.832 pile on to that and say that we and the 19:53.832 --> 19:55.888 Department of defense don't have the 19:55.888 --> 19:58.530 luxury of pulling on those hate streams . 19:58.540 --> 20:00.651 I'll give you a quick vignette when I 20:00.651 --> 20:02.762 when I give tours of the depend on to 20:02.762 --> 20:04.429 the youngest family members , 20:04.429 --> 20:06.540 colleagues that come through . One of 20:06.540 --> 20:08.762 the things I always mentioned is if you 20:08.762 --> 20:10.873 look at the pentagon , you walked the 20:10.873 --> 20:10.470 four quarters of the pentagon , we had 20:10.470 --> 20:13.300 an ordinance among the bathrooms and 20:13.300 --> 20:16.700 bedrooms and uh , restrooms . Why is 20:16.700 --> 20:18.756 that ? Because when the building was 20:18.756 --> 20:20.922 originally built , the law of the land 20:20.922 --> 20:23.033 in northern Virginia was that you had 20:23.033 --> 20:25.220 to have a white only and bathroom when 20:25.220 --> 20:27.109 the president toured the building 20:27.109 --> 20:29.276 before we did the ribbon cutting , you 20:29.276 --> 20:31.387 said wait , it's like , no , we are . 20:31.387 --> 20:33.442 This is a federal building . This is 20:33.442 --> 20:35.609 not a state building , thereby are not 20:35.609 --> 20:37.498 allowed to do that . So we in the 20:37.498 --> 20:39.720 military have generally speaking on the 20:39.720 --> 20:41.720 Department of Defense has generally 20:41.720 --> 20:43.831 been at the forefront of a lot of the 20:43.831 --> 20:45.998 civil rights actions that you that you 20:45.998 --> 20:47.942 see that the rest of society has a 20:47.942 --> 20:50.164 little bit harder time to adopt because 20:50.164 --> 20:52.164 again , we don't have the luxury of 20:52.164 --> 20:54.331 deciding for ourselves whether we want 20:54.331 --> 20:56.442 to hit that other group or not . It's 20:56.442 --> 20:58.498 simply not a decision capitalist . I 20:58.498 --> 20:58.480 think that's what your grandfather and 20:58.480 --> 21:00.840 your father taught you in Vietnam . You 21:00.840 --> 21:02.896 simply don't have that luxury . Uh , 21:02.896 --> 21:05.007 other folks have that luxury to say , 21:05.007 --> 21:07.229 hey , this is what I would like to do . 21:07.229 --> 21:09.173 We don't , we're not afforded that 21:09.173 --> 21:11.396 luxury . And therefore the pentagon now 21:11.396 --> 21:13.618 has extra bathrooms because we were not 21:13.618 --> 21:16.310 allowed to day one allowed to have 21:16.320 --> 21:18.542 separate bathrooms . And that speaks to 21:18.542 --> 21:20.653 what we are as a department defense . 21:20.653 --> 21:22.598 That speaks to what we've done for 21:22.598 --> 21:25.120 extremism and leading society . And 21:25.120 --> 21:28.310 that's where we should be at all times 21:28.310 --> 21:30.643 is at the core funding . Yeah . Society , 21:31.040 --> 21:33.610 a female second lieutenant . And when 21:33.610 --> 21:35.832 the second lieutenant does not get paid 21:35.832 --> 21:37.777 differently than their male second 21:37.777 --> 21:39.777 lieutenant in the United States Air 21:39.777 --> 21:42.630 Force or any of our armed services , 21:42.640 --> 21:44.790 right ? Uh , that should give our 21:44.790 --> 21:47.830 civilian counterparts pause to what the 21:47.830 --> 21:50.220 gender pay inequality gap means to them . 21:50.230 --> 21:52.180 Um , we again , we don't have the 21:52.180 --> 21:54.950 luxury of deciding for ourselves what , 21:54.960 --> 21:57.160 you know , good for us . Well , we'd 21:57.160 --> 22:00.410 like to see this thing constantly again . 22:00.410 --> 22:02.188 As I mentioned , we have at the 22:02.188 --> 22:04.243 forefront a lot of that civil rights 22:04.243 --> 22:06.750 movements , uh , civil rights movement , 22:06.760 --> 22:08.950 forward Russia's society and I don't 22:08.950 --> 22:11.061 think this is anything different . We 22:11.061 --> 22:13.339 should we have an opportunity to leave . 22:13.339 --> 22:16.730 Once again , uh , members of society , 22:16.740 --> 22:19.730 we have an opportunity to tell to not 22:19.730 --> 22:21.730 repost retweet those things that we 22:21.730 --> 22:24.560 think have no value at it and 22:24.560 --> 22:27.180 meaningful game for for our community . 22:27.190 --> 22:29.301 You know , they're pretty pull people 22:29.301 --> 22:32.340 aside and say , hey , I don't think 22:32.340 --> 22:35.800 this conspiracy is necessary . The 22:35.800 --> 22:37.967 healthiest for us as general borden is 22:37.967 --> 22:40.133 contending , uh , in his personal life 22:40.133 --> 22:42.820 as well . So again , um , you know what 22:42.820 --> 22:44.910 you spoke in the vineyards that we 22:44.910 --> 22:46.966 heard is exactly what the department 22:46.966 --> 22:49.850 defense has been has always been and I 22:49.850 --> 22:52.170 think you know will be going into 22:52.540 --> 22:55.670 future . Mhm . 22:56.740 --> 22:58.930 Okay . To wrap up a few key messages 22:58.930 --> 23:01.070 and I'm gonna leave get off the stage 23:01.070 --> 23:03.450 with again from the my very first 23:03.450 --> 23:05.860 commander stall about line some things . 23:06.240 --> 23:08.670 Number one is discrimination . We have 23:08.670 --> 23:11.120 the three times based on the chief and 23:11.120 --> 23:13.140 I have a zero tolerance policy for 23:13.150 --> 23:17.000 discrimination period . Uh to that end 23:17.010 --> 23:19.121 uh discrimination of any kind for any 23:19.121 --> 23:21.177 reason builds against the department 23:21.177 --> 23:23.343 Air forces core values and will not be 23:23.343 --> 23:25.454 tolerated with within our race . It's 23:25.454 --> 23:27.343 not tolerated in our flights , in 23:27.343 --> 23:29.288 correspondence in our groups . And 23:29.288 --> 23:32.730 certainly I know it's not tolerating a 23:32.740 --> 23:34.962 number of Air force and I can guarantee 23:34.962 --> 23:36.851 you it is not tolerated . General 23:36.851 --> 23:39.860 studies . We have leaders that we have 23:39.930 --> 23:41.910 that would allow . But we are 23:41.910 --> 23:44.080 leadership in place today that have 23:44.080 --> 23:46.320 internalized this diversity and 23:46.320 --> 23:49.670 inclusion message and live it . If you 23:49.670 --> 23:51.726 have not heard Jessica to speak . If 23:51.726 --> 23:53.892 you have not heard john bolton speak . 23:53.892 --> 23:56.003 If you have not heard from our senior 23:56.003 --> 23:58.114 leaders , Chief Malcolm Chief White , 23:58.114 --> 23:58.080 you have not heard them speak . I 23:58.080 --> 24:00.380 implore you to research because they 24:00.390 --> 24:03.110 lived those values . Um , and we should 24:03.110 --> 24:05.150 be block step and we are live stuff 24:05.160 --> 24:08.020 with them . Our policy is expressly 24:08.020 --> 24:10.050 prohibit advocating supremacists , 24:10.060 --> 24:12.227 extremists or criminal gang doctrine , 24:12.227 --> 24:14.338 ideology and causes . Service members 24:14.338 --> 24:16.227 must reject participation in such 24:16.227 --> 24:18.282 activities . And commanders have the 24:18.282 --> 24:20.393 authority to employ the full range of 24:20.393 --> 24:22.227 disciplinary actions , including 24:22.227 --> 24:24.004 administrative separation or or 24:24.004 --> 24:25.838 appropriate criminal prosecution 24:25.838 --> 24:28.004 against military personnel who engages 24:28.004 --> 24:30.060 in such activity . We must create an 24:30.060 --> 24:32.171 environment where all can reach their 24:32.171 --> 24:33.949 full potential . Any group that 24:33.949 --> 24:36.010 advocates hate or exclusion detracts 24:36.010 --> 24:38.170 from that goal . It's our job as 24:38.170 --> 24:40.170 leaders to lay out our standards of 24:40.170 --> 24:41.948 core and core values , but it's 24:41.948 --> 24:43.948 everyone's responsibility to embody 24:43.948 --> 24:46.860 them any questions from your chief . 24:48.240 --> 24:50.296 That's one thing . Thank you so much 24:50.296 --> 24:52.518 for participating . This is this , this 24:52.518 --> 24:54.351 is a sensitive topic . These are 24:54.351 --> 24:56.184 uncomfortable issues . These are 24:56.184 --> 24:58.407 uncomfortable things to talk about . So 24:58.407 --> 25:00.573 I thank you for your participation and 25:00.573 --> 25:02.684 listening . Uh even if you didn't say 25:02.684 --> 25:04.740 anything , just being here with your 25:04.740 --> 25:06.907 name on the record is meaningful . And 25:06.907 --> 25:09.129 I will tell you that Zebra having final 25:09.129 --> 25:12.780 comments opened up before , let's say 25:12.780 --> 25:15.002 one last thing to kind of going back to 25:15.002 --> 25:17.058 how we , you know , recognizing that 25:17.058 --> 25:19.280 you didn't even have that individual in 25:19.280 --> 25:21.780 the unit and you didn't know . You can 25:21.780 --> 25:24.002 see it right until you get in trouble . 25:24.040 --> 25:25.984 Um , it's kind of being leaders is 25:25.984 --> 25:28.040 knowing our people , right ? I'm not 25:28.040 --> 25:29.984 saying that you didn't know him or 25:29.984 --> 25:32.096 anything like that , but I think it's 25:32.096 --> 25:34.318 just important . It's just , you know , 25:34.318 --> 25:36.373 these people know their family , you 25:36.373 --> 25:35.970 know , your members . And I think that 25:35.970 --> 25:37.914 will go a long way to you . You'll 25:37.914 --> 25:40.137 still miss somebody . But I mean if you 25:40.137 --> 25:42.303 get to know them , you get to know him 25:42.303 --> 25:44.470 and maybe we can stop something before 25:44.470 --> 25:47.560 it happens . Absolutely . With that . 25:47.570 --> 25:49.050 Thank you all appreciate it .