WEBVTT 00:04.640 --> 00:08.340 no pressure according to know Mr 00:08.340 --> 00:10.470 Garcia . So I'm curious from your 00:10.470 --> 00:13.590 perspective and your chief , what is 00:13.600 --> 00:15.822 the perception of what are the feelings 00:15.822 --> 00:18.310 of the duty members on the idea of a 00:18.320 --> 00:22.230 total forces and from one force 00:22.240 --> 00:24.670 concept ? Right ? So we all become one 00:24.680 --> 00:27.110 as the room it is . How do they feel 00:27.110 --> 00:30.690 about that ? Yeah . Um , you know , 00:30.700 --> 00:32.589 certainly I'll talk to the senior 00:32.589 --> 00:34.533 leadership level and uh , and then 00:34.533 --> 00:36.533 maybe I'll speculate about from the 00:36.533 --> 00:38.478 young level because you know , I'm 00:38.478 --> 00:40.533 definitely are more discussions with 00:40.533 --> 00:42.589 senior folks today , but uh , senior 00:42.589 --> 00:44.811 level , very supportive of this . First 00:44.811 --> 00:44.490 of all , we know completely how reliant 00:44.490 --> 00:46.268 we are on our reserve and guard 00:46.268 --> 00:48.550 teammates . Uh , by the way , initially 00:48.560 --> 00:50.671 the guard was going to be part of the 00:50.671 --> 00:52.838 same component as well . But the title 00:52.838 --> 00:54.838 32 piece just too hard . You know , 00:54.838 --> 00:56.893 they work for the governor uh day in 00:56.893 --> 00:58.893 and day out primarily and then they 00:58.893 --> 01:01.190 come on title 10 orders as as they're 01:01.190 --> 01:03.720 mobilizing as orders require . And we 01:03.720 --> 01:05.831 just can't figure out that that piece 01:05.831 --> 01:07.720 with the , with the governor . So 01:07.720 --> 01:09.776 that's why , because the reserves of 01:09.776 --> 01:11.664 course entitled 10 all the time . 01:11.664 --> 01:11.320 That's why we're there . But 01:11.330 --> 01:13.497 overwhelming support for trying to get 01:13.497 --> 01:15.386 this right . And of course , rule 01:15.386 --> 01:17.330 number one is to do no harm to the 01:17.330 --> 01:19.274 current people and missions of the 01:19.274 --> 01:21.497 reserve command that support us and are 01:21.497 --> 01:23.608 a key part of this space enterprise , 01:23.608 --> 01:25.886 uh , but overwhelming support . And uh , 01:25.886 --> 01:28.052 at the lower level , my sense is , you 01:28.052 --> 01:30.052 know , people know that , hey , I'm 01:30.052 --> 01:32.052 working with my , uh , my , my , my 01:32.052 --> 01:34.274 wingman , my battle buddy here . She or 01:34.274 --> 01:36.497 he is in the 3/10 . I think I know what 01:36.497 --> 01:38.552 that means , but they're , they're , 01:38.552 --> 01:38.260 they're great at their job and let's go 01:38.260 --> 01:40.427 do this together . Uh , my sense is at 01:40.427 --> 01:42.649 the lower levels . It's just waiting to 01:42.649 --> 01:44.871 understand more about what it means and 01:44.871 --> 01:46.871 assumption that they'll continue to 01:46.871 --> 01:48.982 have those great teammates there with 01:48.982 --> 01:51.070 them . Um , great question . And you 01:51.070 --> 01:53.237 know , and I know , you know , there's 01:53.237 --> 01:55.348 probably a lot of questions , there's 01:55.348 --> 01:57.292 many more questions than there are 01:57.292 --> 01:59.403 answers right now . And you know , we 01:59.403 --> 02:01.459 are so close . We're just , I mean , 02:01.459 --> 02:03.737 we're weeks away from um , just monday , 02:03.737 --> 02:05.792 the under Secretary of Defense , you 02:05.792 --> 02:08.014 know , in two days , it's going to take 02:08.014 --> 02:10.348 a brief on the single component service . 02:10.348 --> 02:12.403 So it's making its way to Congress . 02:12.403 --> 02:14.570 It's getting there and we will be able 02:14.570 --> 02:16.681 to have more information coming forth 02:16.681 --> 02:18.959 in the next few weeks . But , you know , 02:18.959 --> 02:21.126 from my perspective and where I sit at 02:21.126 --> 02:23.237 building one , I've talked to some of 02:23.237 --> 02:25.181 the regular forces in the US Space 02:25.181 --> 02:27.403 Force and even some of the airmen there 02:27.403 --> 02:29.348 in the building . And I think that 02:29.348 --> 02:31.459 there is a curiosity and excitement . 02:31.540 --> 02:33.900 Um You know , a chief in the building 02:33.900 --> 02:36.178 said to me just when I came , you know , 02:36.178 --> 02:38.233 I started last week on orders um and 02:38.233 --> 02:40.400 I've gone back and forth over the past 02:40.400 --> 02:42.470 year on orders off orders and going 02:42.470 --> 02:45.660 back to my civilian job . Um And and 02:45.660 --> 02:47.771 it's worked out really well , so they 02:47.771 --> 02:49.882 know me real well in the building and 02:49.882 --> 02:52.104 the chief came to me and said , so if I 02:52.104 --> 02:54.327 wanted to take off a year and a half to 02:54.327 --> 02:56.493 do a master's degree and I were in the 02:56.493 --> 02:58.660 Reserve Forces , would I be able to do 02:58.660 --> 03:00.438 that ? And I said , well yeah , 03:00.438 --> 03:02.771 absolutely in the reserve . Um you know , 03:02.771 --> 03:02.290 we have different statuses and I think 03:02.290 --> 03:04.990 I've been , all of the status is except 03:04.990 --> 03:07.380 in art , I have never been an art . So 03:07.380 --> 03:09.547 I said , you know , as a if you were a 03:09.547 --> 03:11.890 full time , a Gr reserve force and you 03:11.890 --> 03:13.946 wanted to take a year and a half and 03:13.946 --> 03:16.168 get a master's degree and you had the , 03:16.168 --> 03:18.279 you know , the monetary ability to do 03:18.279 --> 03:20.446 that and support your family . You can 03:20.446 --> 03:22.501 become an I . M . A . Or traditional 03:22.501 --> 03:24.668 reservists . And he said , well how do 03:24.668 --> 03:26.834 you see this going ? So this person is 03:26.834 --> 03:26.430 a guardian . He said , how do you see 03:26.430 --> 03:28.920 that going in the space force , if we 03:28.920 --> 03:31.087 go to a single component service ? And 03:31.087 --> 03:33.309 I said , well , I think , you know , we 03:33.309 --> 03:35.531 don't have the details yet on what this 03:35.531 --> 03:37.698 is gonna look like . But the one thing 03:37.698 --> 03:39.809 that General Raymond has said is full 03:39.809 --> 03:41.920 time and part time , he wants to keep 03:41.920 --> 03:44.087 it that simple if there's a full timer 03:44.087 --> 03:46.309 and you know , call them active duty or 03:46.309 --> 03:48.476 call them an HDR , whatever it is , if 03:48.476 --> 03:50.698 there's a full timer and they wanted to 03:50.698 --> 03:53.520 pursue a sabbatical to go and you know , 03:53.530 --> 03:55.900 get a doctorate or master's degree or 03:55.900 --> 03:58.122 something like that . Or if they wanted 03:58.122 --> 04:00.178 to go do some , you know , work with 04:00.178 --> 04:02.400 third world countries and take off time 04:02.400 --> 04:04.400 as a full timer , they'd be able to 04:04.400 --> 04:06.820 step down to part time and take the 04:06.820 --> 04:09.042 time . They need to go do whatever that 04:09.042 --> 04:11.376 goal is that they have on the flip side , 04:11.376 --> 04:13.487 if there was a part timer and they're 04:13.487 --> 04:15.653 perfectly happy doing the mission part 04:15.653 --> 04:17.598 time , like a lot of you do , then 04:17.598 --> 04:19.820 we're happy with what they're doing and 04:19.820 --> 04:21.931 they're doing the mission and they're 04:21.931 --> 04:24.042 full part of it . But if they decided 04:24.042 --> 04:26.153 that an opportunity comes up and they 04:26.153 --> 04:26.030 would like to be a flight chief or 04:26.040 --> 04:28.630 flight commander or some other role or 04:28.630 --> 04:31.160 they just wanted to go on crew maybe 04:31.170 --> 04:33.500 right now they've got a maybe the 04:33.500 --> 04:35.690 economy changed a little bit and 04:35.700 --> 04:37.867 there's civilian job whatever industry 04:37.867 --> 04:39.811 that might be . Um They're getting 04:39.811 --> 04:41.922 squeezed out a little bit and they're 04:41.922 --> 04:43.978 not feeling like they're they're you 04:43.978 --> 04:46.144 know they're having a good opportunity 04:46.144 --> 04:48.311 in the job market . Maybe they want to 04:48.311 --> 04:50.311 go full time now and step up and be 04:50.311 --> 04:52.422 full time . So the two status is full 04:52.422 --> 04:55.280 time and part time . Obviously a lot of 04:55.280 --> 04:57.850 that lies entitled 10 code and they 04:57.850 --> 04:59.906 have to figure out how they can make 04:59.906 --> 05:02.128 things work like that . Um It's not the 05:02.128 --> 05:04.239 way it's done right now as all of you 05:04.239 --> 05:06.461 know it takes a little bit of an effort 05:06.461 --> 05:08.239 to switch through the different 05:08.239 --> 05:10.294 statuses and especially when we talk 05:10.294 --> 05:12.670 about the full time and part time a 05:12.680 --> 05:14.569 full time position a lot of times 05:14.569 --> 05:16.791 there's a lot more competitive . Any of 05:16.791 --> 05:18.958 you that we're tr and wanted to get an 05:18.958 --> 05:21.013 A . G . R . Position . You know , it 05:21.013 --> 05:23.124 can be a little bit competitive to do 05:23.124 --> 05:25.124 that . But so while all the details 05:25.124 --> 05:27.347 aren't out there yet , that's the basic 05:27.347 --> 05:29.347 premise is to status is full time , 05:29.347 --> 05:31.569 part time . Um , and I hope that clears 05:31.569 --> 05:33.736 it up a little bit and really honestly 05:33.736 --> 05:35.958 we want to provide more information and 05:35.958 --> 05:38.180 the information should be coming fairly 05:38.180 --> 05:40.180 soon . Fucking Yeah , please guys . 05:40.640 --> 05:43.590 Thank you commander . Last week at 05:43.600 --> 05:47.240 roughly participated an 05:47.250 --> 05:50.870 organization . So last week at buckley 05:50.870 --> 05:53.460 we had an operational design spring 05:53.840 --> 05:56.750 hosted or that was led by the 05:57.340 --> 06:00.410 CSO office that came out specifically 06:00.410 --> 06:02.577 to look at the missile warning mission 06:02.577 --> 06:04.799 and figure out what are the things that 06:04.799 --> 06:04.620 we need to be looking at from an 06:04.630 --> 06:06.660 organizational design perspective . 06:07.240 --> 06:09.407 Sorry about to pass out with this . My 06:09.407 --> 06:11.573 school , I have been shot and our shot 06:11.573 --> 06:15.320 not showing any symptoms . So uh so 06:15.330 --> 06:17.470 the mobilization authority was one of 06:17.470 --> 06:20.220 the topics that we discussed uh in this 06:20.220 --> 06:22.900 three day marathon , we had to think 06:22.900 --> 06:25.122 about what are all the potential things 06:25.122 --> 06:27.289 that we need to consider . Besides the 06:27.289 --> 06:29.622 orC chart , york chart is not the point . 06:29.622 --> 06:31.789 The point is what will it take to have 06:31.789 --> 06:34.011 a full time and part time force and how 06:34.011 --> 06:36.289 do we access that force when we needed ? 06:36.289 --> 06:38.178 So there's uh since at this point 06:38.178 --> 06:40.344 nothing's off the table , mobilisation 06:40.344 --> 06:42.511 authority is one of the things that we 06:42.511 --> 06:44.733 discussed specifically perhaps creating 06:44.733 --> 06:46.900 a new mobilization authority or making 06:46.900 --> 06:49.122 changes to existing ones so that we can 06:49.122 --> 06:51.400 get things get after things like leave , 06:51.400 --> 06:53.622 for example , and how do we ensure that 06:53.622 --> 06:53.590 we have the house and they have not . 06:53.590 --> 06:55.590 So I just wanted to mention that we 06:55.590 --> 06:57.257 have , it's something that we 06:57.257 --> 06:59.479 definitely have suffered at buckley and 06:59.479 --> 07:02.050 we're trying to get after . So thanks 07:02.060 --> 07:04.171 jokey to Murphy was the senior mentor 07:04.171 --> 07:08.060 that Yeah . 07:13.440 --> 07:17.270 Mhm . Captain Steven Bell 19 stops . 07:17.280 --> 07:19.391 Gentlemen , thank you for your time , 07:19.391 --> 07:22.100 your from a tactical perspective , um I 07:22.100 --> 07:24.100 know a lot of what we've covered is 07:24.100 --> 07:26.170 very strategic can hire um I'm more 07:26.170 --> 07:29.320 concerned about keeping power members 07:29.320 --> 07:31.153 who might be facing their second 07:31.153 --> 07:33.376 enlistment , who might be at that point 07:33.376 --> 07:35.542 where we have given them a lot of very 07:35.542 --> 07:38.000 expensive training and now are getting 07:38.000 --> 07:40.111 incentivized to get three times their 07:40.111 --> 07:42.690 salary and punch what is the Space 07:42.690 --> 07:46.150 force doing to address the retention 07:46.160 --> 07:48.740 issue and keep our best technical 07:48.740 --> 07:51.180 operators and so they can actually get 07:51.180 --> 07:54.520 to those leadership for buildings in 07:54.520 --> 07:56.576 the future . Yeah , give me a little 07:56.576 --> 07:58.742 bit more before you hand off mike . So 07:58.742 --> 08:00.909 give me your impression of attention . 08:00.909 --> 08:03.131 Right ? And and and and and please help 08:03.131 --> 08:05.298 me understand you're talking about the 08:05.298 --> 08:07.409 active duty and reserve a boat across 08:07.409 --> 08:09.576 the board . Total force so on the T on 08:09.576 --> 08:11.576 and I'm guilty of it . You know , I 08:11.576 --> 08:13.798 take a very significant pay cut just to 08:13.798 --> 08:16.080 come on . But to me , the love of my 08:16.080 --> 08:18.620 unit keeps me here . That that is not 08:18.620 --> 08:22.510 universal . A lot of people do great 08:22.520 --> 08:25.940 things every day , but eventually they 08:25.940 --> 08:28.162 might need a pen on master Sergeant and 08:28.162 --> 08:30.600 then they get taped taken out of some 08:30.600 --> 08:33.860 of their the job that they love . 08:34.600 --> 08:38.570 And is there any mechanisms that the 08:38.570 --> 08:41.740 space force is looking into such that , 08:41.750 --> 08:43.861 you know , okay , I'm tired of it . I 08:43.861 --> 08:46.083 don't want to go do that stuff . Let me 08:46.083 --> 08:48.150 stay in my tactical world and do the 08:48.150 --> 08:50.372 operation stuff that we're relying on . 08:50.390 --> 08:52.501 Great thank you . And that was really 08:52.501 --> 08:54.834 helpful at that second piece there . So , 08:54.834 --> 08:57.057 yes , in fact , you probably have heard 08:57.057 --> 08:59.112 Chief to Berman and some of his town 08:59.112 --> 09:01.446 hall talking about on the enlisted side , 09:01.446 --> 09:03.390 we're looking at a technical track 09:03.390 --> 09:05.750 where at some point , uh , maybe I'll 09:05.750 --> 09:07.972 ask when I'm done talking , Chief scott 09:07.972 --> 09:09.917 might have a little bit more , but 09:09.917 --> 09:12.083 maybe somebody becomes a tech sergeant 09:12.083 --> 09:11.910 and and then they decided I really want 09:11.910 --> 09:13.910 to stay on the technical side . And 09:13.910 --> 09:16.132 then that's a slightly different career 09:16.132 --> 09:18.299 track . Then if , you know , I want to 09:18.299 --> 09:17.750 rise up through the leadership level 09:17.750 --> 09:20.080 for being a Superintendent SCL and 09:20.080 --> 09:22.120 striving to be the chief master 09:22.120 --> 09:24.190 sergeant of the Space Force . I will 09:24.190 --> 09:27.550 say we're also , uh , we want to help 09:27.550 --> 09:29.439 improve pay , particularly on the 09:29.439 --> 09:31.161 enlisted side . That will be a 09:31.161 --> 09:33.217 departmental level . D . O . D . You 09:33.217 --> 09:35.328 know , we can't independently do that 09:35.328 --> 09:37.272 because we do think there's been a 09:37.272 --> 09:39.439 disparity over time . You start from a 09:39.439 --> 09:41.383 certain base . And even if both of 09:41.383 --> 09:43.217 those bases increase at the same 09:43.217 --> 09:45.383 percentage each year , the it'll it'll 09:45.383 --> 09:47.606 become a wider gap . And certainly with 09:47.606 --> 09:49.828 the way our senior N . C . O . Corps RN 09:49.828 --> 09:52.490 tires , N . C . O . Corps is just so 09:52.500 --> 09:54.700 much better educated than when I first 09:54.700 --> 09:56.700 came in the eighties and we had the 09:56.700 --> 09:56.670 best N . C . O . Corps in the world 09:56.670 --> 09:58.948 than uh , we've got to figure that out . 09:58.948 --> 10:01.170 And that's that is a issue that General 10:01.170 --> 10:03.170 Raymond personally is working . But 10:03.170 --> 10:05.114 again , that will take D . O . D . 10:05.114 --> 10:07.337 Level will take Congress . It will take 10:07.337 --> 10:09.559 a lot . So that's probably a multi year 10:09.559 --> 10:11.670 basis . But I will say research shows 10:11.670 --> 10:13.670 and I know this will sound crazy at 10:13.670 --> 10:15.892 times or just will sound crazy . People 10:15.892 --> 10:18.320 don't stay for pay . There's a level at 10:18.320 --> 10:20.209 which people will be satisfied or 10:20.209 --> 10:22.320 dissatisfied based on their pay . And 10:22.320 --> 10:24.542 once you're above that you really won't 10:24.542 --> 10:26.598 make them any more satisfied . And I 10:26.598 --> 10:26.430 know you say no , no , I'd be more 10:26.430 --> 10:29.140 satisfied with the pay raise . But it's 10:29.140 --> 10:31.251 kind of an on off switch at a certain 10:31.251 --> 10:33.140 level you got and then it's about 10:33.140 --> 10:33.030 quality of service like you said , you 10:33.030 --> 10:35.086 know , you love serving and and then 10:35.086 --> 10:37.086 I'm doing important mission and the 10:37.086 --> 10:39.308 time of cyber uh you know , uh Guardian 10:39.308 --> 10:41.419 our airmen , I get to go legally hack 10:41.419 --> 10:43.641 on other people . I can't do that in my 10:43.641 --> 10:43.340 outside world . And I get to do this 10:43.340 --> 10:45.340 really cool mission that I can't do 10:45.340 --> 10:47.618 somewhere . So we're really focused on . 10:47.618 --> 10:49.951 And if you haven't , you'll see it soon . 10:49.951 --> 10:49.930 The Guardian Strategy , it's our human 10:49.930 --> 10:52.152 capital strategy talks to those kind of 10:52.152 --> 10:54.263 issues . How do we improve quality of 10:54.263 --> 10:56.208 service ? So I kind of walk , walk 10:56.208 --> 10:58.374 around a couple different issues , Let 10:58.374 --> 10:57.980 me turn it over to Chief , You know , 10:57.980 --> 11:00.510 and and good point , sir . And and and 11:00.510 --> 11:02.621 it's definitely a topic of discussion 11:02.621 --> 11:04.677 and in fact , you know , Chiefs over 11:04.677 --> 11:06.899 and I have discussed this at length and 11:06.899 --> 11:08.899 the Chiefs and the Space Force , so 11:08.899 --> 11:11.121 it's interesting um there uh you know , 11:11.121 --> 11:11.060 if , you know , there's there are 31 11:11.060 --> 11:13.393 chiefs in the United States Space Force , 11:13.393 --> 11:15.616 um I'll put that in perspective for you 11:15.616 --> 11:17.710 in Air Force Reserve Command between 11:17.710 --> 11:20.900 the 3/10 Space Wing , the 9 26 Wing And 11:20.910 --> 11:24.890 the a three at the commander of 14 1 11:24.890 --> 11:28.110 Charlie six chiefs . So put that a 11:28.110 --> 11:30.054 little perspective , size wise and 11:30.054 --> 11:32.620 understand , um you know , we have a 11:32.620 --> 11:35.250 pretty good footing . Um So in they 11:35.260 --> 11:37.610 give me a lot of opportunity to sit . I 11:37.610 --> 11:39.388 talked to chief government very 11:39.388 --> 11:41.610 frequently and you know , while there's 11:41.610 --> 11:43.666 31 chiefs in the United States space 11:43.666 --> 11:45.832 for some kind of like their adopted 30 11:45.832 --> 11:47.610 seconds as the I am a too cheap 11:47.610 --> 11:49.888 Panamanian , formerly Chief Tochterman . 11:49.888 --> 11:52.020 So we have a lot of these discussions 11:52.020 --> 11:54.850 and chief to Berman has absolutely said 11:54.880 --> 11:58.130 that he wants to establish a path for 11:58.130 --> 12:00.200 enlisted if they want to stay that 12:00.200 --> 12:02.920 technical expert and they want to , 12:02.930 --> 12:05.270 they love working with a widget , 12:05.280 --> 12:07.336 whatever it is , whether you're into 12:07.336 --> 12:09.502 cyberspace , but you love working with 12:09.502 --> 12:11.613 your hands . He doesn't want to force 12:11.613 --> 12:13.613 those members to go attract and you 12:13.613 --> 12:15.724 have to become a flight chief and you 12:15.724 --> 12:17.724 have to become a superintendent and 12:17.724 --> 12:19.558 you're gonna end up working at a 12:19.558 --> 12:21.613 headquarters at a field command . Um 12:21.613 --> 12:23.502 that's that is absolutely not his 12:23.502 --> 12:25.724 envision for what they're gonna do with 12:25.724 --> 12:27.836 the enlisted force . And I know , you 12:27.836 --> 12:30.058 know that in the officer world that may 12:30.058 --> 12:32.280 be a little different , but if we do go 12:32.280 --> 12:34.447 with this single component service and 12:34.447 --> 12:36.613 you have those opportunities , you may 12:36.613 --> 12:38.780 have that flexibility now . You know , 12:38.780 --> 12:40.947 some of you do not know me when I walk 12:40.947 --> 12:42.947 into Schriever Air Force Base um in 12:42.947 --> 12:45.002 civilian clothes and I'm an engineer 12:45.002 --> 12:46.836 and I go support to stop because 12:46.836 --> 12:48.780 they've got an anomaly going on on 12:48.780 --> 12:51.002 their satellite And I love working with 12:51.002 --> 12:50.270 my hands and I love , you know , I 12:50.270 --> 12:52.492 worked with a great team of engineers , 12:52.492 --> 12:54.880 a lot of them former two stops and 196 12:54.880 --> 12:57.330 members . And I don't want to give up 12:57.330 --> 12:59.608 my civilian job for anything right now . 12:59.740 --> 13:02.300 But I also know how I got it and I got 13:02.300 --> 13:04.078 that civilian job because of my 13:04.078 --> 13:06.133 training that I got in the Air Force 13:06.133 --> 13:08.189 and the expertise working up through 13:08.189 --> 13:11.170 test and development with GPS and then 13:11.180 --> 13:14.290 getting working with design of the GPS 13:14.290 --> 13:16.512 three satellites , all kinds of stuff . 13:16.512 --> 13:18.623 But I got to do that was incredible . 13:18.623 --> 13:20.790 Um is where that's what got me where I 13:20.790 --> 13:22.901 am today and I can't forget that . So 13:22.901 --> 13:25.123 some of us have that desire to continue 13:25.123 --> 13:27.123 to serve and that desire to put the 13:27.123 --> 13:29.234 uniform on and I promise you I take a 13:29.234 --> 13:31.401 pay cut when I put the uniform on . Um 13:31.401 --> 13:34.070 there's no doubt about that and but I'm 13:34.070 --> 13:37.140 willing to take that and and balance it 13:37.150 --> 13:39.640 with the reward that I get when I come 13:39.640 --> 13:41.418 out and I get to go and talk to 13:41.418 --> 13:43.860 Guardians and Airmen . And I know 13:43.870 --> 13:46.037 that's something that I've done has an 13:46.037 --> 13:48.203 impact on their career and I'm helping 13:48.203 --> 13:50.370 to bring up people . Um and you know , 13:50.370 --> 13:52.481 I got a lot of opportunity because my 13:52.481 --> 13:54.648 experience in the Air Force and I want 13:54.648 --> 13:56.759 to provide that opportunity to others 13:56.759 --> 13:58.981 as well . So I think going forward with 13:58.981 --> 14:01.148 a small force like the Space Force and 14:01.148 --> 14:03.400 when we see what what matures out of 14:03.400 --> 14:06.190 this plan for the single component 14:06.190 --> 14:07.857 service , I think there'll be 14:07.857 --> 14:09.690 opportunities for people to stay 14:09.690 --> 14:11.690 technical and even opportunities of 14:11.690 --> 14:13.634 flexibility where you as a captain 14:13.634 --> 14:17.200 decide that maybe , you know , your 14:17.200 --> 14:19.450 next step might not be to be a flight 14:19.460 --> 14:21.627 commander , but maybe you want to take 14:21.630 --> 14:23.908 time and so you're a T . R . Right now , 14:23.908 --> 14:26.130 but say you're an a G . Are you want to 14:26.130 --> 14:28.241 take time and you know , go work on a 14:28.241 --> 14:30.241 master's degree that's a little bit 14:30.241 --> 14:30.070 different than everything you've been 14:30.080 --> 14:32.302 doing and go get some training . So you 14:32.302 --> 14:34.358 go , you know , you go part time and 14:34.358 --> 14:36.469 then you can come back to a full time 14:36.469 --> 14:38.302 opportunity or maybe you find an 14:38.302 --> 14:40.670 opportunity in industry and we are 14:40.670 --> 14:42.960 definitely talking to industry . Um 14:42.970 --> 14:45.750 there there's been several meetings um 14:46.440 --> 14:48.950 In the 3/10 space swing in the past has 14:48.950 --> 14:51.110 kind of led some of these discussions 14:51.110 --> 14:53.332 with their industry days that they have 14:53.332 --> 14:54.999 and they invite local defense 14:54.999 --> 14:57.410 contractors in and they say we 14:57.410 --> 15:01.080 understand that you need this 15:01.090 --> 15:03.840 um you know you need this person to 15:03.850 --> 15:06.510 work development of OC Exit Raytheon in 15:06.520 --> 15:08.930 Denver . But we need this person to sit 15:08.930 --> 15:11.370 on crew here at 19 South . We got to 15:11.380 --> 15:14.330 find a good synergy between industry 15:14.340 --> 15:17.720 and military so that that that 15:17.730 --> 15:20.370 attraction of the higher salary doesn't 15:20.370 --> 15:23.580 just pull them away but perhaps they 15:23.580 --> 15:26.680 can still keep one ft in the door and 15:26.690 --> 15:28.912 yes hire them as a contractor . They're 15:28.912 --> 15:31.134 working for Raytheon . They're up there 15:31.134 --> 15:33.357 in Aurora and they're designing the new 15:33.357 --> 15:35.301 OC X . That's going to come in and 15:35.301 --> 15:37.412 control our GPS three satellites into 15:37.412 --> 15:37.400 the future . Oh but wait a minute now 15:37.400 --> 15:39.622 we've got a problem at Schriever and we 15:39.622 --> 15:41.800 need that reservist . Maybe perhaps 15:41.800 --> 15:43.800 it's an anomaly or there's a backup 15:43.800 --> 15:45.880 deployment to the A . M . C . S . We 15:45.880 --> 15:47.991 want to be able to bring that reserve 15:47.991 --> 15:50.102 is done . So we have to develop those 15:50.102 --> 15:52.158 relationships with industry to allow 15:52.158 --> 15:54.450 for a synergy of flexibility so people 15:54.450 --> 15:56.760 can go part time full time back and 15:56.760 --> 15:59.510 forth to support the mission . Because 15:59.510 --> 16:01.840 when you think of industry and you 16:01.840 --> 16:03.896 think of the military , we're all in 16:03.896 --> 16:06.062 this together . And I think that there 16:06.062 --> 16:08.007 will be opportunities with the new 16:08.007 --> 16:10.118 force as it matures . So perhaps stay 16:10.118 --> 16:12.490 technical if you want to or take those 16:12.490 --> 16:14.601 opportunities once in a while to jump 16:14.601 --> 16:16.712 on the leadership trail and maybe you 16:16.712 --> 16:18.879 go and you do something and you become 16:18.879 --> 16:18.860 a flight commander , but you don't 16:18.860 --> 16:21.027 think you're quite ready to be D . O . 16:21.027 --> 16:23.193 Um , and you go back to technical . So 16:23.193 --> 16:25.360 I think there will be some flexibility 16:25.360 --> 16:27.471 there . And I hope that we as a force 16:27.471 --> 16:29.471 don't , you know , let ourselves go 16:29.471 --> 16:31.582 down that path or what we still fight 16:31.582 --> 16:33.527 people . But I think those , those 16:33.527 --> 16:35.638 talks are absolutely happening at the 16:35.638 --> 16:37.471 high levels and I appreciate you 16:37.471 --> 16:37.060 bringing up the point that will 16:37.060 --> 16:38.650 continue to have those discussions .