WEBVTT 00:01.056 --> 00:04.300 - A slice of apple pie is $2.50 in Jamaica 00:05.150 --> 00:07.253 and $3 in the Bahamas. 00:08.290 --> 00:10.440 These are the pie rates of the Caribbean. 00:10.440 --> 00:12.760 - Oh my God. (laughing) 00:12.760 --> 00:13.790 I was not prepared. 00:13.790 --> 00:16.893 I was expecting a math question that led to a joke. 00:18.300 --> 00:19.133 - Yep. 00:19.133 --> 00:22.092 - I am equally disappointed. (laughing) 00:22.092 --> 00:24.299 ♪ So let me see your reflective belt ♪ 00:24.299 --> 00:26.491 ♪ Let me see your reflective belt ♪ 00:26.491 --> 00:28.602 ♪ So let me see your reflective belt ♪ 00:28.602 --> 00:30.663 ♪ You better put it on, better, better put it on ♪ 00:30.663 --> 00:32.782 ♪ You better put it on, better, better put it on ♪ 00:32.782 --> 00:36.639 ♪ You better put it on, better, better put it on ♪ 00:36.639 --> 00:37.940 - Well, welcome 00:38.930 --> 00:40.430 to episode 00:40.430 --> 00:41.840 33, 00:41.840 --> 00:44.350 33 of "The Reflective Belt". 00:44.350 --> 00:47.310 This is the first time in a very long time 00:47.310 --> 00:49.530 where you and I have hosted together. 00:49.530 --> 00:50.980 - Yeah, I've been avoiding it. 00:50.980 --> 00:53.550 - [Jordan] Yeah, 'cause you really hate my-- 00:53.550 --> 00:55.209 - I didn't want to hear any pie-rate jokes. 00:55.209 --> 00:56.850 (laughing) 00:56.850 --> 00:59.950 But here we are, both a little dumber 00:59.950 --> 01:01.900 having had listened to it. 01:01.900 --> 01:03.720 - You all are welcome. 01:03.720 --> 01:06.023 I am here for it every single time. 01:07.150 --> 01:08.810 So, yes, welcome to episode 33. 01:08.810 --> 01:09.690 - 33! 01:09.690 --> 01:12.700 - I am Senior Airman Jordan Garner. 01:12.700 --> 01:15.550 - I am Staff Sergeant Levi Reynolds. 01:15.550 --> 01:16.827 - You forgot your name for a second? 01:16.827 --> 01:18.400 - No, I was gonna come up with a fake name 01:18.400 --> 01:20.146 but then I remembered this is an official thing. 01:20.146 --> 01:21.920 (laughing) 01:21.920 --> 01:24.750 - All right, yeah, so yeah, interesting news. 01:24.750 --> 01:26.523 What you got? - Okay, so, 01:27.420 --> 01:29.820 as we've all heard, 01:29.820 --> 01:34.820 there was a couple shootings over the past weekend. 01:35.240 --> 01:37.880 Depending on when you're listening to this, 01:37.880 --> 01:39.720 could be farther out. 01:39.720 --> 01:44.720 But we've probably all heard of the name Glen Oakley. 01:45.090 --> 01:46.930 And I thought this would be a good thing to highlight 01:46.930 --> 01:51.300 because he is in our sister service, he's in the army. 01:51.300 --> 01:53.360 I couldn't tell from the articles 01:53.360 --> 01:55.120 'cause they called him a private a couple of times 01:55.120 --> 01:56.450 and they called him a specialist. 01:56.450 --> 01:58.430 Like, I don't know what he was. (laughs) 01:58.430 --> 02:00.900 - He's in the army. - He's in the army. 02:00.900 --> 02:04.250 But he was at Foot Locker near Walmart 02:04.250 --> 02:06.080 and that's when the shooting started 02:06.080 --> 02:08.550 and he just immediately, you know, 02:08.550 --> 02:10.570 his training kicked in and he went 02:10.570 --> 02:11.653 and he came out and he said, 02:11.653 --> 02:15.850 it's a bunch of unaccompanied children, and he was like, 02:15.850 --> 02:18.820 what would I want somebody to do if these were my kids? 02:18.820 --> 02:20.260 So, one by one, he started 02:20.260 --> 02:22.600 running them straight out of there. 02:22.600 --> 02:24.594 And they were freaking out obviously. 02:24.594 --> 02:25.930 I mean, there was a shooting going on 02:25.930 --> 02:27.470 and then this random guy 02:27.470 --> 02:29.870 just starts carrying them and like running out. 02:29.870 --> 02:32.350 So, he's like, I had to hold some of them pretty tight. 02:32.350 --> 02:36.240 But, he got them all out of there, got them to safety 02:36.240 --> 02:39.610 and I think that needs to be highlighted a lot. 02:39.610 --> 02:40.443 - Absolutely. 02:41.690 --> 02:44.717 I was just talking with a couple people 02:44.717 --> 02:46.640 in the office about this. 02:46.640 --> 02:50.960 It's just like, why isn't the news covering this? 02:50.960 --> 02:54.010 Like, the only way I've heard about it is off of Facebook. 02:54.010 --> 02:56.620 Then you get on regular news and stuff like that 02:56.620 --> 03:00.253 and its just, everything is so bad. 03:01.290 --> 03:03.600 And it's just like, I mean, but there's some good stuff 03:03.600 --> 03:05.250 that comes out of this stuff too. 03:05.250 --> 03:06.820 - Yeah, there's a couple of news outlets 03:06.820 --> 03:09.000 that I follow that they are legitimately, 03:09.000 --> 03:11.870 like, they are done saying the names of the shooters. 03:11.870 --> 03:13.760 And they're only going to say the names of people like this. 03:13.760 --> 03:18.280 And I've seen a couple, you know, like, (sighs) 03:18.280 --> 03:21.240 specialists that decided that it's not going to matter 03:21.240 --> 03:23.010 if you say the shooters' names or not. 03:23.010 --> 03:25.110 But like, honestly, I don't want that in my brain any way. 03:25.110 --> 03:26.270 I don't want to remember that name. 03:26.270 --> 03:27.103 - Yeah, right. 03:27.103 --> 03:29.300 - So, I'll remember Glen Oakley instead 03:29.300 --> 03:32.142 and I'll never learn the shooter in El Paso. 03:32.142 --> 03:34.352 - Yeah, me either. 03:34.352 --> 03:35.441 Yeah. 03:35.441 --> 03:39.590 - So, yeah, we can pivot from that terrible news 03:39.590 --> 03:43.240 and we can talk about the subject of today's show, 03:43.240 --> 03:44.440 which is? 03:44.440 --> 03:47.130 - Hurricane season! - Which is much better news. 03:47.130 --> 03:47.963 - Yes. 03:48.930 --> 03:49.763 To an extent. 03:49.763 --> 03:51.175 No, I know. (laughing) 03:51.175 --> 03:53.150 Just one bad thing to another, 03:53.150 --> 03:56.980 but this one you can prepare better for. 03:56.980 --> 03:57.960 - Yeah, absolutely. 03:57.960 --> 04:00.690 So, yes, we are in hurricane season 04:00.690 --> 04:04.110 but we are fast approaching 04:04.110 --> 04:07.510 the most severe months of hurricane season, 04:07.510 --> 04:10.090 which are September and October. 04:10.090 --> 04:13.850 So, in episode 29 we spoke with Mr. Warner 04:13.850 --> 04:14.850 and he talked to us a little bit 04:14.850 --> 04:17.930 about severe weather in general. 04:17.930 --> 04:21.980 Now we're gonna focus a little bit more on the HUR-RY/TOR-- 04:21.980 --> 04:23.800 I can't, it's so weird saying it. 04:23.800 --> 04:25.210 HUR-RY/TOR-RY procedures. 04:25.210 --> 04:28.850 Which is hurricane readiness and tornado readiness. 04:28.850 --> 04:31.340 A little more about hurricane than tornadoes 04:31.340 --> 04:33.970 because you can prepare for hurricanes better. 04:33.970 --> 04:36.190 Which you'll learn in the interview. 04:36.190 --> 04:38.140 - [Levi] You get a little more time to prepare. 04:38.140 --> 04:38.973 - Yeah. 04:38.973 --> 04:41.530 - Like, it's over in the water, it's heading our way! 04:41.530 --> 04:43.443 And then the tornado, they're like, hey. 04:44.750 --> 04:46.144 - So now what do we do? (laughs) 04:46.144 --> 04:47.721 - I think there's a tornado outside. 04:47.721 --> 04:48.930 (laughing) 04:48.930 --> 04:51.870 Get in the bathtub. - Yep, exactly. 04:51.870 --> 04:52.703 So, yes. 04:53.810 --> 04:57.990 We can just roll right into that interview right about 04:58.980 --> 05:00.510 now. 05:00.510 --> 05:02.550 Okay, so thanks, Mr. Warner, again 05:02.550 --> 05:04.450 for coming in and talk to us. 05:04.450 --> 05:05.830 We're gonna talk a little bit more in depth 05:05.830 --> 05:07.890 about the HUR-RY and TOR-RY situ-- 05:07.890 --> 05:09.420 We're gonna talk a little bit more 05:09.420 --> 05:11.450 about the HUR-RY and TOR-RY procedures. 05:11.450 --> 05:13.200 So starting off with those who do not know 05:13.200 --> 05:15.570 what HUR-RY and TOR-RY means, can you explain that to us? 05:15.570 --> 05:19.830 Sure, HUR-RY and TOR-RY are essentially 05:19.830 --> 05:22.550 new readiness approaches that we developed 05:22.550 --> 05:25.503 in the Severe Weather Readiness Assessment process. 05:26.570 --> 05:28.440 What we wanted to do, 05:28.440 --> 05:31.920 since we can't mitigate the threat from severe weather, 05:31.920 --> 05:34.460 I mean, we can manage it but we can't make it go away, 05:34.460 --> 05:37.710 we really needed to come up with a way to buy time. 05:37.710 --> 05:40.160 And that's essentially what HUR-RY and TOR-RY do for us. 05:40.160 --> 05:41.623 They help us buy time. 05:42.840 --> 05:44.710 When we're looking at severe weather 05:44.710 --> 05:46.420 there's certain things that we know. 05:46.420 --> 05:50.140 We know generally when we're at the greatest risk. 05:50.140 --> 05:52.580 For example, we'll take hurricane season. 05:52.580 --> 05:54.980 Or the HUR-RY concept that we're in now. 05:54.980 --> 05:56.800 We know that the peak hurricane season 05:56.800 --> 05:59.127 is September and October, 05:59.127 --> 06:01.640 so under the HUR-RY construct 06:01.640 --> 06:03.880 there's things that we can start doing now 06:03.880 --> 06:06.910 to prepare for September and October. 06:06.910 --> 06:09.430 And by knocking some of this stuff out now, 06:09.430 --> 06:11.690 and doing things that make the wing 06:11.690 --> 06:13.570 or the installation more prepared, 06:13.570 --> 06:17.160 we buy the commander time when the storms do start to form 06:17.160 --> 06:19.500 and do start to approach the base. 06:19.500 --> 06:22.020 I mean, it's not a replacement for the HURCON system. 06:22.020 --> 06:24.110 That system is still in effect and the wings 06:24.110 --> 06:27.090 will still change their HURCON as storms get closer. 06:27.090 --> 06:29.590 But the concept with HUR-RY is that they'll knock out 06:29.590 --> 06:32.235 as much as they can as early as they can. 06:32.235 --> 06:35.170 Again, just to buy that extra time. 06:35.170 --> 06:37.230 - Okay, and about the TOR-RY side, what's that? 06:37.230 --> 06:38.750 - TOR-RY is the same concept, 06:38.750 --> 06:41.630 it's just applicable more to our bases in the Midwest, 06:41.630 --> 06:43.840 and that would be tornado readiness. 06:43.840 --> 06:45.230 A little bit harder to deal with 06:45.230 --> 06:48.080 because tornadoes are really much more unpredictable. 06:48.080 --> 06:49.410 Generally, we see a hurricane coming 06:49.410 --> 06:51.280 three or four days in advance, if we're lucky. 06:51.280 --> 06:53.740 So we have a lot of time to respond. 06:53.740 --> 06:57.300 A tornado could just pop up in the middle of the afternoon. 06:57.300 --> 07:00.540 But what we do know, looking at statistics 07:00.540 --> 07:03.890 and the historical data concerning severe weather, 07:03.890 --> 07:05.650 even in the Midwest, you can see patterns. 07:05.650 --> 07:08.250 And we know that bases like AFIT, 07:08.250 --> 07:11.800 they face an increased risk from tornadoes 07:11.800 --> 07:13.110 during certain times of the year. 07:13.110 --> 07:15.950 So, in the same methodology, 07:15.950 --> 07:19.350 the wing there would take as many steps as they could 07:19.350 --> 07:22.680 before that time of year to make the tornado season, 07:22.680 --> 07:25.300 if you will, a little bit easier to deal with. 07:25.300 --> 07:27.570 For tornadoes, it may simply just be, 07:27.570 --> 07:29.530 you know, readiness exercises or training 07:29.530 --> 07:31.220 or updating checklists or just making sure 07:31.220 --> 07:33.740 that they know what they're gonna do when bad things happen. 07:33.740 --> 07:36.607 Whereas, with hurricanes, there's a lot more constructive, 07:36.607 --> 07:39.800 proactive things we can do to get the base ready. 07:39.800 --> 07:41.680 - Gotcha, so it's more like if you stay ready, 07:41.680 --> 07:43.898 you don't have to get ready. - Exactly, right. 07:43.898 --> 07:47.993 Knocking out as much as you can beforehand is crucial. 07:48.850 --> 07:50.670 A good example for HUR-RY, 07:50.670 --> 07:52.380 we always have construction projects 07:52.380 --> 07:53.920 ongoing at our installations 07:53.920 --> 07:55.190 and, with a construction project, 07:55.190 --> 07:56.840 you generally have things laying around, 07:56.840 --> 07:59.580 whether it be plywood or lumber or tin or whatever, 07:59.580 --> 08:01.860 there's always things laying around. 08:01.860 --> 08:04.120 What HUR-RY suggests is that, 08:04.120 --> 08:07.370 hey, before you get to your severe weather readiness period, 08:07.370 --> 08:09.840 when you're most likely to be hit by bad weather, 08:09.840 --> 08:11.750 that's the kind of stuff you need to clean up 08:11.750 --> 08:14.240 because what we know is when the wind's blowing 08:14.240 --> 08:17.060 you know, 140 miles an hour, that plywood, 08:17.060 --> 08:19.060 those two by fours, that tin, those tarps, 08:19.060 --> 08:21.210 they're all going flying down the flight line 08:21.210 --> 08:22.530 and they're gonna damage more 08:22.530 --> 08:24.680 and they're gonna cause us more problems 08:24.680 --> 08:26.383 either with our air craft or facilities 08:26.383 --> 08:27.780 or even hurt somebody. 08:27.780 --> 08:30.550 So, what HUR-RY says is, clean that stuff up now, 08:30.550 --> 08:33.750 secure it now, go out around the installation, 08:33.750 --> 08:35.480 if you have dead and diseased trees 08:35.480 --> 08:37.930 that will almost certainly fall down in a strong wind, 08:37.930 --> 08:39.610 well, cut them down in August 08:39.610 --> 08:41.560 instead of waiting until they fall down 08:41.560 --> 08:43.920 and become a projectile during a hurricane. 08:43.920 --> 08:46.553 It's really those types of steps. 08:47.580 --> 08:50.090 Another example could be positioning equipment. 08:50.090 --> 08:52.950 You take JVLE, for example, or Langley, 08:52.950 --> 08:56.130 where our average above sea level is like seven feet. 08:56.130 --> 08:59.010 So we know if a storm comes through here, we're gonna flood. 08:59.010 --> 09:02.780 So, in August, maybe the wing is looking at, 09:02.780 --> 09:05.660 okay, should start moving some of our sensitive equipment 09:05.660 --> 09:08.070 or sensitive things away from the coast line? 09:08.070 --> 09:09.950 Should we preposition it at Fort Eustis? 09:09.950 --> 09:11.970 Should we get it someplace safer? 09:11.970 --> 09:16.070 Those are steps that you would take when things are calm. 09:16.070 --> 09:19.730 That way when you're in the last 72 hours before a landfall, 09:19.730 --> 09:21.690 you're not trying to do all that stuff then. 09:21.690 --> 09:23.690 - Absolutely, absolutely. 09:23.690 --> 09:26.650 So, (coughs) excuse me. 09:26.650 --> 09:27.960 Like we said before, you know, 09:27.960 --> 09:30.080 it's been a rough few years weather-wise. 09:30.080 --> 09:31.425 - [Mr. Warner] It has, yes! 09:31.425 --> 09:33.209 - (laughs) For the DOD and, of course, 09:33.209 --> 09:35.773 with that happening, you know, 09:36.716 --> 09:38.100 our boss has decided, 09:38.100 --> 09:39.406 hey, we need to do something about this. 09:39.406 --> 09:40.239 - [Warner] Absolutely. 09:40.239 --> 09:42.450 - And so, correct me if I'm wrong, 09:42.450 --> 09:44.290 General Weggeman decided to come up 09:44.290 --> 09:47.810 with a Severe Weather Readiness Action team, right? 09:47.810 --> 09:50.000 Did I say that right? - Assessment team. 09:50.000 --> 09:51.090 - Assessment team, okay. 09:51.090 --> 09:53.317 - But it's even higher than that, he was directed. 09:53.317 --> 09:54.820 ACC was directed to form the team 09:54.820 --> 09:56.240 by the secretary of the Air Force 09:56.240 --> 09:58.100 and the chief of staff of the Air Force. 09:58.100 --> 10:01.460 We were tasked to take a look 10:01.460 --> 10:03.270 at severe weather and our readiness. 10:03.270 --> 10:06.550 You know, how are we as a service postured 10:06.550 --> 10:10.370 for what is becoming an increasingly significant 10:10.370 --> 10:12.980 and more problematic problem or challenge for us. 10:12.980 --> 10:15.090 So, it was a joint initiative. 10:15.090 --> 10:17.480 We invited all the sister services 10:17.480 --> 10:19.310 and we had some representation. 10:19.310 --> 10:22.666 And our goal was to look across the board at, 10:22.666 --> 10:26.290 as an organization, are we doing everything 10:26.290 --> 10:30.320 we can possibly do to be ready for this crazy weather? 10:32.483 --> 10:36.210 Our final report ended up being about 251 pages. 10:36.210 --> 10:38.265 Many, many, many recommendations. 10:38.265 --> 10:39.098 - [Jordan] Yeah, absolutely. 10:39.098 --> 10:41.470 - And still being digested at the HAF level 10:41.470 --> 10:43.690 and still being implemented. 10:43.690 --> 10:46.150 A lot of the recommendations were extremely expensive, 10:46.150 --> 10:47.400 as you can imagine, you know, 10:47.400 --> 10:50.770 a lot of our infrastructure was built many decades ago. 10:50.770 --> 10:51.700 - [Jordan] Right. 10:51.700 --> 10:54.100 - And not always... 10:54.100 --> 10:56.660 While we do a great job maintaining what we have, 10:56.660 --> 10:57.830 age is age, you know. 10:57.830 --> 10:59.990 And when you start looking at 150 mile an hour wind 10:59.990 --> 11:03.180 or 130 mile an hour wind for a few hours, 11:03.180 --> 11:04.760 things fail. - Yeah. 11:04.760 --> 11:07.490 - And clearly we saw that challenge at Tyndall. 11:07.490 --> 11:09.330 So there's a lot of recommendations 11:09.330 --> 11:12.270 that try to address that very expensive problem, 11:12.270 --> 11:13.840 or how to build better hangars. 11:13.840 --> 11:15.910 or how to come up with new methods 11:15.910 --> 11:16.980 of protecting our aircraft, 11:16.980 --> 11:19.230 specifically, air craft we can't evacuate. 11:19.230 --> 11:21.200 But then there were also things that we came up with 11:21.200 --> 11:22.600 that were relatively cheap. 11:22.600 --> 11:24.185 HUR-RY and TOR-RY being a good example. 11:24.185 --> 11:25.018 - [Jordan] Right. 11:25.018 --> 11:26.320 - Which is really just a different approach, 11:26.320 --> 11:29.120 a different mindset and you can implement that for free. 11:29.995 --> 11:31.330 And then everything in between. 11:31.330 --> 11:35.050 We have a lot of recommendations that are being implemented. 11:35.050 --> 11:38.013 And we went back and reported our findings to HAF 11:39.340 --> 11:41.540 back in March. - Okay, awesome. 11:41.540 --> 11:44.980 So, of course, we know with these things, 11:44.980 --> 11:46.860 it's always a process. 11:46.860 --> 11:47.693 - [Warner] Yes. 11:47.693 --> 11:49.180 - And it's an ongoing thing. 11:49.180 --> 11:52.240 So can you tell me a little bit, where are we now? 11:52.240 --> 11:55.100 From the time we've started to implement 11:55.100 --> 11:56.720 HUR-RY/TOR-RY procedures, 11:56.720 --> 11:59.650 where are we now and what do you look for in the future? 11:59.650 --> 12:02.110 - So, there is a HAF initiative 12:02.110 --> 12:03.560 on some of our recommendations 12:03.560 --> 12:06.770 but we're Air Combat Command, we didn't want to wait. 12:06.770 --> 12:07.780 Nor should we. 12:07.780 --> 12:10.890 So we began moving out right away. 12:10.890 --> 12:12.910 I mean, within days after briefing it 12:12.910 --> 12:15.060 at the Air Force level, we came home 12:15.060 --> 12:17.660 and came up with a plan on how we were going to get, 12:19.030 --> 12:21.640 specifically our units in harms way 12:21.640 --> 12:24.290 with regard to hurricanes, ready for the 2019 season. 12:24.290 --> 12:26.940 We really haven't approached the tornado problem yet. 12:26.940 --> 12:28.430 We'll work with those bases later, 12:28.430 --> 12:30.840 but the short target that we needed to focus on 12:30.840 --> 12:32.300 was hurricane season. 12:32.300 --> 12:34.820 So what we did right away, we developed 12:37.098 --> 12:39.590 an administrative message, if you will, 12:39.590 --> 12:43.700 out to all of our wings within 200 miles of the coast line. 12:43.700 --> 12:45.650 Which ended up being five of our wings. 12:46.677 --> 12:51.677 This message basically had them move out on HUR-RY. 12:51.870 --> 12:54.450 It gave them a list of recommendations 12:54.450 --> 12:55.970 that we thought they should look at, 12:55.970 --> 12:58.620 that they should take into consideration. 12:58.620 --> 13:01.670 We also collected some COM data. 13:01.670 --> 13:03.480 We identified a couple of gaps 13:03.480 --> 13:05.210 with regards to command in control 13:05.210 --> 13:06.043 during the severe weather. 13:06.043 --> 13:07.650 So we wanted to beef that system up. 13:07.650 --> 13:09.500 So we're working on that. 13:09.500 --> 13:11.510 The wings are moving out on doing what they can 13:11.510 --> 13:14.650 to get ready for the season based on the HUR-RY construct. 13:14.650 --> 13:16.640 And we're also working on some things 13:16.640 --> 13:17.980 here at the headquarters to make sure 13:17.980 --> 13:19.510 that, when bad things happen, 13:19.510 --> 13:22.210 we're better postured to support the wings. 13:22.210 --> 13:24.800 We learned a lot during the Hurricane Michael situation 13:24.800 --> 13:28.190 and a lot during helping Tyndall recover. 13:28.190 --> 13:31.070 We're capturing those lessons learned, blending it 13:31.070 --> 13:34.320 with the Severe Weather Readiness Assessment way ahead, 13:34.320 --> 13:35.990 and then coming up with a new approach 13:35.990 --> 13:38.740 for how we handle everything at this level, as well. 13:38.740 --> 13:43.240 - Okay, I know within the severe readiness-- 13:43.240 --> 13:44.368 I'm gonna mess that up. (laughing) 13:44.368 --> 13:47.590 Within the Severe Weather Readiness Assessment team 13:47.590 --> 13:51.010 there were what, three leverages 13:51.010 --> 13:53.370 to fight against the severe weather? 13:53.370 --> 13:54.580 - Our primary three levers 13:54.580 --> 13:56.410 when it comes to dealing with this, 13:56.410 --> 13:58.933 planning being the biggest one. 13:58.933 --> 14:01.487 One of the quotes that we used 14:01.487 --> 14:04.170 "Plans are useless but planning is everything." 14:04.170 --> 14:06.990 And President Eisenhower said that years ago. 14:06.990 --> 14:09.230 And the concept there is that 14:09.230 --> 14:10.700 we can write all this stuff down, 14:10.700 --> 14:12.780 and we have, we have all these great detailed plans, 14:12.780 --> 14:13.980 but plans are inherently flawed 14:13.980 --> 14:17.628 because you write it when there is no emergency. 14:17.628 --> 14:18.890 And, when bad things happen, 14:18.890 --> 14:20.230 your plan starts to fall apart. 14:20.230 --> 14:21.910 But if we are working together, 14:21.910 --> 14:23.090 if we're talking to each other, 14:23.090 --> 14:24.530 if we're exercising together, 14:24.530 --> 14:27.920 if we're maintaining a close relationship with our wings 14:27.920 --> 14:29.700 then that planning and those relationships 14:29.700 --> 14:32.840 will allow us to overcome whatever comes our way. 14:32.840 --> 14:35.680 So our focus has really been on that planning, 14:35.680 --> 14:37.900 communicating, working together 14:37.900 --> 14:40.040 and we're making good progress there. 14:40.040 --> 14:42.070 The other one is posturing. 14:42.070 --> 14:44.050 This one, again, hurricanes make it a little easy 14:44.050 --> 14:46.720 'cause we see them. - Right. 14:46.720 --> 14:48.760 - But how do we get the wings best posture 14:48.760 --> 14:50.110 or how do we help the wing commander 14:50.110 --> 14:51.900 get his personnel and his installation 14:51.900 --> 14:55.840 best postured for the weather that they're gonna face. 14:55.840 --> 14:59.440 Our initial message out to the wings started that process. 14:59.440 --> 15:02.570 Or at least gave them some additional tools to consider. 15:02.570 --> 15:04.530 Some of the wings moved right out and some of them felt 15:04.530 --> 15:06.270 that they didn't need to go in that direction, 15:06.270 --> 15:07.900 they had other plans that they liked better. 15:07.900 --> 15:10.740 That's fine, nothing we sent out there was a go do, 15:10.740 --> 15:12.750 it was a, here's some options. 15:12.750 --> 15:14.530 But the key was at the end to make sure 15:14.530 --> 15:18.790 that we're postured for bad storms when they hit us. 15:18.790 --> 15:21.370 And then the last one was prioritizing things. 15:21.370 --> 15:22.520 And this is a big one for us. 15:22.520 --> 15:24.470 Especially nowadays and one of the things 15:24.470 --> 15:27.430 we discussed during the assessment was, you know, years back 15:27.430 --> 15:30.200 we lost Homestead Air Force Base to hurricane Andrew. 15:30.200 --> 15:33.123 And we lost a lot of air craft, we lost a lot of equipment. 15:34.000 --> 15:36.960 Tragic in its own sense, but you know, 15:36.960 --> 15:40.010 back then, we were bigger, we had more assets, 15:40.010 --> 15:44.130 we had more air craft, we could, not stand to lose things, 15:44.130 --> 15:46.360 but the loss didn't hurt quite so much. 15:46.360 --> 15:48.470 You don't necessarily have that luxury nowadays 15:48.470 --> 15:50.330 when you start talking about fifth gen air craft 15:50.330 --> 15:52.910 or some of our critical missions. 15:52.910 --> 15:56.240 We have to do a better job prioritizing those 15:56.240 --> 15:59.220 and protecting those and making sure 15:59.220 --> 16:02.310 that, when those are threatened by severe weather, 16:02.310 --> 16:04.250 we're doing absolutely everything we can 16:04.250 --> 16:07.600 to protect them and insure we still have redundancy. 16:07.600 --> 16:09.745 Because we still have a DOD mission 16:09.745 --> 16:13.110 that we must do no matter what the weather is doing. 16:13.110 --> 16:15.460 So we have to know where our weaknesses are, 16:15.460 --> 16:17.660 where our vulnerabilities are, and then adjust as necessary. 16:17.660 --> 16:19.530 So those are our three big levers 16:19.530 --> 16:23.090 and that's what we're preaching still to the wings. 16:23.090 --> 16:24.880 And they got it, they know. 16:24.880 --> 16:28.652 - Okay, so you mentioned making sure that we prioritize, 16:28.652 --> 16:32.200 especially with the fifth gen air craft that we have now. 16:32.200 --> 16:34.030 So, with that, like, how does 16:34.930 --> 16:36.590 being prepared for severe weather, 16:36.590 --> 16:40.030 how does that effect our mission as a whole 16:40.030 --> 16:41.963 and, of course, pilots and their sorties 16:41.963 --> 16:43.358 and things like that? - Sure. 16:43.358 --> 16:45.380 One of the things that we were very conscious of, 16:45.380 --> 16:47.680 we didn't want to create a new readiness construct 16:47.680 --> 16:50.090 that over-tasked the wings. 16:50.090 --> 16:51.280 The wings, they're already out there 16:51.280 --> 16:52.210 doing everything they're supposed to, 16:52.210 --> 16:53.670 they're already busy, they're already stressed. 16:53.670 --> 16:56.710 So we didn't wanna add a bunch of new stuff. 16:56.710 --> 16:58.720 We didn't want add duplication. 16:58.720 --> 17:00.400 They're gonna do a HURCON checklist, 17:00.400 --> 17:01.233 they're gonna do all this stuff. 17:01.233 --> 17:04.050 We didn't wanna add anything new there. 17:04.050 --> 17:06.260 Our belief or our effort was really focused 17:06.260 --> 17:08.910 on giving them these readiness tools 17:08.910 --> 17:10.960 that would, again, buy them time. 17:10.960 --> 17:13.700 Which, in the end, should help them maintain 17:13.700 --> 17:16.830 the other readiness levels that they're committed to. 17:16.830 --> 17:19.460 If we can take some of the worry away 17:19.460 --> 17:20.700 with regard to severe weather 17:20.700 --> 17:23.440 then they can focus on what they're supposed to be doing. 17:23.440 --> 17:26.230 Sortie generation and being ready to go to war. 17:26.230 --> 17:29.910 So, we think where we're at is a happy medium. 17:29.910 --> 17:32.510 We don't believe we came up with requirements 17:32.510 --> 17:34.900 that, you know, ask too much. 17:34.900 --> 17:37.550 Our goal was really just to help them 17:37.550 --> 17:41.080 be better prepared so they can focus on their job. 17:41.080 --> 17:41.913 - So, 17:44.310 --> 17:45.143 where do you-- 17:45.143 --> 17:46.830 I'll even put a time stamp. 17:46.830 --> 17:50.210 I'll say, where do you see us 17:50.210 --> 17:53.310 as far as HUR-RY/TOR-RY procedures in about, 17:53.310 --> 17:55.123 I'll say, five years. - Five years? 17:57.720 --> 17:58.720 Ideally, 17:58.720 --> 18:02.653 if we can keep this going, and I believe we can, 18:04.000 --> 18:06.270 we will get this indoctrinated into our culture. 18:06.270 --> 18:08.060 'Cause it really is a cultural thing. 18:08.060 --> 18:09.530 We need people to think this way. 18:09.530 --> 18:13.750 We need people to recognize what we identified quickly, 18:13.750 --> 18:16.820 and it sounds silly, but the weather is an adversary 18:16.820 --> 18:19.440 just as lethal as any other adversary 18:19.440 --> 18:20.320 we are dealing with out there. 18:20.320 --> 18:23.740 So we need people to factor that into their planning 18:23.740 --> 18:24.573 at all levels. 18:24.573 --> 18:25.810 It's not just a weather plan, 18:25.810 --> 18:28.731 but your continuity plans, your emergency management plans, 18:28.731 --> 18:31.130 and all of these plans need to focus on 18:31.130 --> 18:33.120 what are we gonna do when weather goes bad? 18:33.120 --> 18:37.550 So it's up to us to keep getting it into the system, 18:37.550 --> 18:38.710 keep getting it into the culture 18:38.710 --> 18:41.120 and if we're successful, five years from now, 18:41.120 --> 18:42.230 a lot of what we're talking about 18:42.230 --> 18:44.550 will simply be second nature, you know. 18:44.550 --> 18:47.770 Commanders at all levels will recognize, 18:47.770 --> 18:50.700 hey, we're moving into hurricane season, 18:50.700 --> 18:52.740 I should probably do X, Y and Z. 18:52.740 --> 18:54.900 I should probably go over these checklists. 18:54.900 --> 18:56.830 I should probably have a Commander's Call 18:56.830 --> 19:01.120 and talk about readiness and disaster prep with my troops. 19:01.120 --> 19:04.083 We need that stuff just to become second nature because, 19:05.990 --> 19:08.190 without getting into causation, you know, 19:08.190 --> 19:10.970 weather is seemingly getting worse, 19:10.970 --> 19:12.380 storms are getting more frequent, 19:12.380 --> 19:15.050 so we need to take this serious 19:15.050 --> 19:17.430 and, hopefully, five years from now 19:17.430 --> 19:18.930 this will all just be old hat, 19:18.930 --> 19:20.890 we'll have it down to a science. 19:20.890 --> 19:21.723 - Awesome. 19:21.723 --> 19:25.160 Well, is there anything that you wanted to add? 19:25.160 --> 19:26.880 Anything that I did not touch on 19:26.880 --> 19:28.280 that you wanted to speak on? 19:29.200 --> 19:31.003 - No, I'm glad you didn't bring up "Sharknado". 19:31.003 --> 19:32.420 (laughing) 19:32.420 --> 19:33.670 - I thought about it, actually. 19:33.670 --> 19:34.510 I really did think about it. 19:34.510 --> 19:36.490 I was like, yeah, no, we talked about it before. 19:36.490 --> 19:38.028 - I got nothing on "Sharknado". 19:38.028 --> 19:40.480 (laughing) 19:40.480 --> 19:41.313 But, 19:43.460 --> 19:47.160 we have a lot of tools and people at our disposal, 19:47.160 --> 19:48.760 it'll help make this easier at the headquarters. 19:48.760 --> 19:51.340 So, if commanders out there have questions, 19:51.340 --> 19:52.470 want to discuss this more, 19:52.470 --> 19:55.250 confused about certain aspects of the report, 19:55.250 --> 19:56.870 have a better idea, 19:56.870 --> 19:59.510 by all means reach out to us, share it. 19:59.510 --> 20:02.560 We have the ability to take good ideas 20:02.560 --> 20:04.710 and recirculate them right back out to the command 20:04.710 --> 20:07.320 as quickly as we get them and we're willing to do that. 20:07.320 --> 20:09.830 And this, it's gonna take a team approach 20:09.830 --> 20:12.450 to prepare for the next hurricane Michael 20:12.450 --> 20:15.510 and to get ready for what we have to do 20:15.510 --> 20:16.620 when those bad things happen. 20:16.620 --> 20:18.250 It's especially relevant for us here at Langley 20:18.250 --> 20:20.602 since we are right on the coast. 20:20.602 --> 20:22.490 - Absolutely, absolutely. 20:22.490 --> 20:25.010 Well, thank you again for coming back 20:25.010 --> 20:27.200 and to talk to us a little more in depth. 20:27.200 --> 20:28.750 And always a pleasure. 20:28.750 --> 20:29.850 - Thank you very much. 20:31.420 --> 20:34.300 - So yeah, that was some valuable information 20:34.300 --> 20:36.090 about hurricane preparedness. 20:36.090 --> 20:36.923 - Yes. 20:36.923 --> 20:38.060 - If you have any more questions 20:39.506 --> 20:41.930 or just wanna be better prepared, 20:41.930 --> 20:45.220 you can go over to acc.af.mil 20:45.220 --> 20:48.480 and on the right side, it's like the third button down, 20:48.480 --> 20:50.430 it says severe weather readiness. 20:50.430 --> 20:52.700 You can click on that and there's a bunch of links on there 20:52.700 --> 20:57.260 on how to prepare from NOAA and other various sites. 20:57.260 --> 21:01.496 And then has broke down all the HURCON conditions. 21:01.496 --> 21:03.823 - Hurricane condition conditions? 21:04.670 --> 21:07.060 - Yeah. (laughing) 21:07.060 --> 21:08.610 I don't know, man, I don't make this stuff up. 21:08.610 --> 21:10.317 - [Jordan] I know, no, you were right. 21:10.317 --> 21:14.790 - HURCON five through one, E and R and all that stuff. 21:14.790 --> 21:16.490 - Good stuff. - Yeah. 21:16.490 --> 21:17.519 - So. - Yes. 21:17.519 --> 21:21.420 This probably will not be the last time we hear about 21:23.340 --> 21:27.020 hurricane preparedness and severe weather. 21:27.020 --> 21:29.074 We're gonna be talking about it a lot 21:29.074 --> 21:31.700 because it's a long season 21:31.700 --> 21:33.950 and we just want to make sure everyone 21:33.950 --> 21:36.870 is prepared for these things the best as possible 21:36.870 --> 21:39.790 because the DOD has been struggling 21:39.790 --> 21:42.060 the last few years when it comes to severe weather. 21:42.060 --> 21:44.490 So, we're going to make sure we get that information out 21:44.490 --> 21:46.120 so that we're all prepared. 21:46.120 --> 21:47.730 - Yeah. 21:47.730 --> 21:48.563 - Yeah. 21:50.110 --> 21:51.750 Into more positive news, 21:51.750 --> 21:55.690 episode 34 of "The Reflective Belt" will be in two weeks. 21:55.690 --> 21:57.190 - Well, actually it might be next week. 21:57.190 --> 21:59.454 We have so much stuff 21:59.454 --> 22:02.830 that is time sensitive that we're upping it. 22:02.830 --> 22:04.800 Don't get used to it. - Yes. 22:04.800 --> 22:08.410 - We are still trying to keep the bi-weekly program going. 22:08.410 --> 22:09.950 - Which is why I said it the way I said it. 22:09.950 --> 22:13.140 - Now it's gonna be every week. (laughs) 22:13.140 --> 22:14.440 - So that's the good news. 22:14.440 --> 22:18.210 You get to hear more from us, more frequently, on Thursday. 22:18.210 --> 22:20.700 - That could be bad news, but, you know, hey. 22:20.700 --> 22:21.533 - What? 22:21.533 --> 22:24.110 You meaning to tell me they don't like my stupid jokes? 22:25.240 --> 22:27.453 - Nobody likes your stupid jokes. 22:28.750 --> 22:29.950 - I like my stupid jokes. 22:29.950 --> 22:32.745 - All right, well, one person likes your stupid jokes. 22:32.745 --> 22:34.600 (laughing) 22:34.600 --> 22:35.650 - Oh, yes. 22:35.650 --> 22:36.960 - Well, we'll see you next week. 22:36.960 --> 22:38.397 - Yes. 22:38.397 --> 22:40.980 (upbeat music)