WEBVTT 00:01.240 --> 00:02.304 good morning the 00:04.020 --> 00:08.710 committee on defense appropriations united states senate will 00:08.710 --> 00:09.840 please come to order 00:11.209 --> 00:15.150 we want to welcome campbell ashton b carter who is secretary 00:15.150 --> 00:20.710 of defense and general joseph f dunford chairman of the joint 00:20.710 --> 00:21.890 chiefs of staff 00:23.370 --> 00:30.020 this is our first review of the 27 team defense budget request 00:30.610 --> 00:36.560 the subcommittee understands the challenges that we face in developing 00:37.320 --> 00:41.640 the content and setting the limits of spending for the department 00:41.640 --> 00:42.400 of defense 00:43.680 --> 00:49.161 we look forward to our distinguished panel of witnesses and thank 00:49.162 --> 00:54.000 them for their distinguished service to the us military in our 00:54.000 --> 00:56.510 country home 00:58.170 --> 01:05.023 I will first can I recognize form comments amster statement by 01:05.040 --> 01:10.620 general joseph dunford then in his first appearance before the 01:10.620 --> 01:14.920 defence sub committee and as chairman of the joint chiefs of 01:14.920 --> 01:19.530 staff were grateful for your leadership and appreciate your appears 01:19.530 --> 01:24.611 before our committee we also are pleased to have the sector to 01:24.720 --> 01:33.098 maps hashed in carter version personally rodman of pretty well 01:33.103 --> 01:40.207 over time is distinguished service secretary of defense will 01:40.236 --> 01:45.250 you ask you to procedure making any opening statements that you 01:45.250 --> 01:49.600 think would be helpful to the committee's review of the department's 01:49.630 --> 01:50.730 budget. Request 01:52.592 --> 01:58.110 in the german cochrane distinguish members appreciate you're 01:58.399 --> 02:03.999 having on me here chairman dunford an undersecretary mccord ought 02:04.020 --> 02:10.550 to day and above all for steadfastly supporting our men and women 02:11.790 --> 02:15.790 military and civilian alike to serve and defend our country all 02:15.790 --> 02:19.750 over the world over the last two weeks I visited many of these 02:19.750 --> 02:23.990 trips in the asia pacific and middle east and I couldn't be prouder 02:24.370 --> 02:28.100 of what they're doing to advance our security stand by our friends 02:28.100 --> 02:30.488 and allies in those critical regions 02:31.730 --> 02:34.210 i'm pleased to be here with german dunford to discuss president 02:34.210 --> 02:38.180 obama's 27teen defense budget which marks a major inflection 02:38.180 --> 02:42.310 point for the department of defense in this budget were taking 02:42.310 --> 02:47.246 the long view we have to because even as we fight today's fight 02:47.520 --> 02:52.630 we must also be prepared for what might come 10 20 30 years down 02:52.630 --> 02:57.330 road last fall's bipartisan budget act gave us some much needed 02:57.330 --> 03:03.140 stability after years of gridlock and turbulence I wanna thank 03:03.140 --> 03:08.000 you and your colleagues for coming together to help pass in that 03:08.000 --> 03:11.520 budget deal set the size of our budget and with this degree of 03:11.520 --> 03:16.680 certainty he refocused on its shape changing that shape and fundamental 03:16.740 --> 03:20.980 but carefully considered ways to adjust to a new strategic era 03:21.460 --> 03:25.610 and to seize opportunities for the future when he described the 03:25.610 --> 03:29.747 strategic assessment that drove our budget decisions first of 03:29.747 --> 03:33.570 all it's evident that america is still too day the world's foremost 03:33.570 --> 03:38.050 leader partner and underwriter of stability and security in every 03:38.110 --> 03:41.240 region of the world as we've been since the end of world war 03:41.240 --> 03:46.580 two that's thanks in large part to the unequivocal strength of 03:46.580 --> 03:50.560 the united states military and as we continue to fulfil this 03:50.560 --> 03:53.629 enduring rolt also evident that were entering into strategic 03:53.629 --> 03:57.150 era today's security environment is dramatically different from 03:57.150 --> 04:01.590 the last 25 years acquiring new ways of investing and operating 04:02.520 --> 04:10.390 five evolving strategic challenges namely russia china north 04:10.390 --> 04:17.540 korea iran and terrorism are now driving deities planning and 04:17.540 --> 04:21.490 budgeting as reflected in this budget on a focused first on our 04:21.490 --> 04:25.140 ongoing fight against terrorism and especially isis which we 04:25.140 --> 04:30.247 must and will deal a lasting defeat most immediately in its parent 04:30.247 --> 04:35.820 tumor in iraq and syria but also where it's metastasized and 04:35.820 --> 04:40.102 all the while we're continuing to help protect our homeland but 04:40.104 --> 04:42.310 he could be a quick snapshot of what we're doing to pressure 04:42.310 --> 04:46.820 and destroy isis parent tumor in iraq and syria beginning with 04:46.844 --> 04:50.130 iraq which chairman dunford and I both visited over the course 04:50.130 --> 04:55.200 the last week there with our support iraqi security forces retook 04:55.200 --> 04:59.310 romani had been reclaiming further ground in ambar province most 04:59.310 --> 05:03.570 recently the city of heat and along with iraqi kurdish forces 05:03.570 --> 05:07.430 have begun operations to isolate and pressure mosul with the 05:07.430 --> 05:10.840 intent of collapsing isis control over that city 05:12.540 --> 05:16.290 as we made this progress with momentum in this campaign clearly 05:16.290 --> 05:20.560 on our side last week in baghdad I announced a number of key 05:20.560 --> 05:24.860 actions were taking to continue accelerating our campaign against 05:24.860 --> 05:29.230 isis will be placing advisors with the eye a staff that is the 05:29.230 --> 05:32.870 iraqi security forces down to the brigade and the talian level 05:33.060 --> 05:37.230 to help enhance decision making in responsiveness will be leveraging 05:37.230 --> 05:41.430 apache attack helicopters to support the I ss ongoing efforts 05:41.430 --> 05:43.710 to envelop and and retake mosul 05:44.970 --> 05:48.220 will send additional high marks to support iraqi ground offensive 05:48.220 --> 05:52.560 there will provide financial assistance to the peshmerga up to 05:52.560 --> 05:57.360 415 million dollars to bolster one of the most effective fighting 05:57.360 --> 06:02.070 forces against isis and do all this work and a need to adjust 06:02.070 --> 06:06.450 how we use our forces already there and all so bring in about 06:06.450 --> 06:07.740 250 more of them 06:09.420 --> 06:13.380 as in the past president obama has approved all these actions 06:13.507 --> 06:15.898 that might in the chairman's recommendation 06:17.149 --> 06:21.090 were also doing more in syria as the president announced earlier 06:21.090 --> 06:24.450 this week were increasing u s forces there from six fall from 06:24.450 --> 06:29.040 50 to 300 this comes after capable and motivated local force 06:29.114 --> 06:33.089 supported by our coalition retook the east syrian town of should 06:33.090 --> 06:36.991 doughty severing the last major northern artery between raka 06:37.520 --> 06:42.730 and mosul and therefore between iceland syria and I saw in iraq 06:44.010 --> 06:48.200 these additional 250 personnel including special operations forces 06:48.500 --> 06:52.430 will help expand our ongoing efforts to identify train and equip 06:52.770 --> 06:57.560 capable motivated local forces inside syria to help isolate and 06:57.560 --> 06:58.521 crutcher rock 06:59.792 --> 07:03.850 will also serve as a hub to incorporate partner saaf from both 07:03.850 --> 07:07.488 long standing traditional allies and gulf countries to augment 07:07.488 --> 07:10.010 their collections counterattack by celeste arrives there 07:11.510 --> 07:14.720 I should note however that syria is an area where we need your 07:14.720 --> 07:19.120 help particularly in releasing 349 million dollars in section 07:19.120 --> 07:23.200 12 o nine songs to help train and equip our partners on the ground 07:23.640 --> 07:25.790 the centerpiece of our strategy there 07:27.070 --> 07:30.170 all of this comes on top of what we've already done to accelerate 07:30.170 --> 07:34.130 the military campaign such as intensifying our air campaign based 07:34.130 --> 07:37.970 on new intelligence introducing an expeditionary targeting force 07:38.470 --> 07:41.450 and expanding the fight against eisele every domain including 07:41.450 --> 07:46.517 cyber and space and as work celebrating our overall ken russell 07:46.526 --> 07:50.508 campaign were backing it up with increased funding for 27teen 07:50.520 --> 07:53.840 requesting 50% more than last year 07:55.349 --> 07:58.740 but I have to say much still hinges on the non military aspects 07:58.740 --> 08:02.800 of cameron eisele tripoli efforts to address political and economic 08:02.800 --> 08:07.310 challenges in both iraq and syria that's critical to ensuring 08:07.310 --> 08:08.831 that isis stays defeated 08:10.530 --> 08:14.191 next to the other for strategic challenges reflector returned 08:14.231 --> 08:19.248 in some ways to great power competition one is in europe were 08:19.248 --> 08:23.240 retaken a strong and balanced approach to deter russian aggression 08:23.540 --> 08:26.380 we haven't had to devote a significant force portion of our defense 08:26.380 --> 08:30.600 investment to this possibility for a quarter century but now 08:30.600 --> 08:31.060 we do 08:33.220 --> 08:36.950 the other challenges in the asia pacific where china is rising 08:37.180 --> 08:41.400 which is fine but behaving aggressively which is not 08:42.860 --> 08:46.061 there were continuing are a balance to the region to maintain 08:46.061 --> 08:49.970 the stability we've underwritten for the past 70 years enabling 08:49.970 --> 08:54.860 so many nations darius and prosper in this the single most consequential 08:54.860 --> 08:57.040 region of the world for america's future 08:58.827 --> 09:01.210 and as I saw in india and the philippines at the beginning of 09:01.210 --> 09:04.610 my trip or engagement the asia pacific is deeply appreciated 09:04.970 --> 09:09.560 and in high demand by enduring allies and new friends alike 09:11.010 --> 09:14.444 meanwhile two other longstanding challenges posed threats in 09:14.444 --> 09:18.670 specific regions north korea is one that's why our forces on 09:18.670 --> 09:22.900 the korean peninsula remain ready as they say the fight tonight 09:24.090 --> 09:27.500 the others around because while the nuclear accord is a good 09:27.500 --> 09:30.330 deal for preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon we must 09:30.330 --> 09:34.470 still determining aggression encounter iran's malign influence 09:34.660 --> 09:39.060 against our regional friends and allies especially israel to 09:39.060 --> 09:43.061 which we maintain an unwavering and unbreakable commitment and 09:43.180 --> 09:46.910 all star golf partners with whom I laugh met last week in abu 09:46.910 --> 09:48.290 dhabi and riyadh 09:49.630 --> 09:53.040 in addressing all of these five challenges requires new investments 09:53.040 --> 09:57.050 on our part new posture in some regions and also new and enhanced 09:57.050 --> 10:01.060 capabilities for example we know we must deal with these challenges 10:01.060 --> 10:06.660 across all domains not just the usual air land and sea but also 10:06.660 --> 10:11.080 specially in cyber electronic warfare ensued space where a reliance 10:11.080 --> 10:14.090 on technology is given us great strength and great opportunities 10:14.410 --> 10:17.100 but also lead to vulnerabilities that adversaries are eager to 10:17.100 --> 10:22.500 exploit q r approaches be able to deter our most advanced competitors 10:22.790 --> 10:26.910 we must have and be seen to have the ability to ensure that anyone 10:26.910 --> 10:30.590 who starts a conflict with us will regret having done so 10:32.270 --> 10:35.320 in our budget or capabilities our readiness and our actions we 10:35.320 --> 10:39.730 must and will be prepared for a high and enemy we call full spectrum 10:40.590 --> 10:44.670 in this context russia and china are most stressing competitors 10:44.940 --> 10:48.302 as they both developed and continue to advance military systems 10:48.302 --> 10:52.390 that seek to threaten our advantages in specific areas we see 10:52.390 --> 10:57.228 them in crimea syria and the south china sea in some cases they're 10:57.228 --> 11:00.160 developing weapons in ways of war that seek to achieve their 11:00.160 --> 11:04.470 objectives rapidly before they think we can respond because of 11:04.470 --> 11:07.730 this deity has elevated their importance and our planning and 11:07.730 --> 11:12.220 budgeting in my written testimony of detailed our budget makes 11:12.220 --> 11:14.960 critical investments to help his battered rusty's five evolving 11:14.960 --> 11:18.290 challenges were strengthening their deterrence posture in europe 11:18.290 --> 11:21.820 by investing three point five four billion dollars for the european 11:21.970 --> 11:25.800 security reassurance initiative quadruple what we requested last 11:25.800 --> 11:30.320 year prioritizing readiness and training for ground forces and 11:30.320 --> 11:32.980 reinvigorating the readiness and modernization of our fighter 11:32.980 --> 11:36.220 aircraft fleet or investing in innovative capabilities like the 11:36.220 --> 11:40.511 b 21 long range strike bomber migrant route and the arsenal playing 11:40.511 --> 11:46.597 as well as advanced munitions of all sorts in our navy were emphasizing 11:46.597 --> 11:50.550 that just increasing the number of ships which were doing but 11:50.550 --> 11:54.560 especially their lethality with new weapons and high end ships 11:55.000 --> 11:58.860 and extending our commanding lead in undersea warfare with new 11:58.860 --> 12:02.430 investments and unmanned undersea vehicles for example morse 12:02.430 --> 12:05.500 and more submarines with the versatile virginia payload module 12:05.828 --> 12:10.920 triples their strike assay from 12 tomahawks to 40 are doing 12:10.920 --> 12:14.080 more in cyber electronic warfare and space investing in that 12:14.110 --> 12:18.830 these three domains a combined total of. 34 Billion Dollars And 27 12:18.830 --> 12:22.540 team among other things this will help build our cyber mission 12:22.540 --> 12:26.140 force develop next generation electronic jammers and prepare 12:26.140 --> 12:30.422 for the possibility of conflict that extends into space and short 12:30.423 --> 12:33.760 deity will keep ensuring our dominance in all domains 12:35.220 --> 12:38.990 as we do this our budget also seizes opportunities for the future 12:39.680 --> 12:43.440 that's a responsibility I have to all my successors to ensure 12:43.440 --> 12:46.360 the military and the defense department they inherit is just 12:46.360 --> 12:50.250 as strong if not stronger than the one I had the privilege of 12:50.250 --> 12:51.030 leading today 12:52.660 --> 12:55.200 that's why we're making increased investments in science and 12:55.200 --> 12:59.420 technology in evading operationally and building new bridges 12:59.420 --> 13:04.010 to the amazing american innovative system as we always have to 13:04.010 --> 13:07.370 stay ahead of future threats it's why we're building what i've 13:07.370 --> 13:10.630 called the force of the future because good is our technology 13:10.630 --> 13:14.760 is it's nothing compared to our people and in the future we must 13:14.760 --> 13:18.980 continue to recruit and retain the very best talent competing 13:18.980 --> 13:23.210 for good people for an all volunteer force is a critical part 13:23.210 --> 13:26.650 of our military adage and everyone should understand this need 13:26.731 --> 13:30.870 and my commitment to medium and because we owe to the america's 13:30.870 --> 13:34.190 taxpayers to spend our defense dollars wisely and responsibly 13:34.190 --> 13:38.300 as possible were also pushing for needed reforms across the deity 13:38.300 --> 13:43.040 enterprise and we need your help with all of them from continuously 13:43.040 --> 13:47.180 improving acquisition to further reducing overhead and access 13:47.180 --> 13:52.744 infrastructure to modernising and simplifying tri care to proposing 13:52.780 --> 13:55.760 new changes to the goldwater nichols act the defines much of 13:55.760 --> 13:57.580 our institutional. Organization 13:59.588 --> 14:03.919 let me close on the broader shift reflected in this budget the 14:03.920 --> 14:07.580 defense department doesn't have the luxury of just one opponent 14:08.560 --> 14:12.630 or the choice between current fights and future flights we have 14:12.630 --> 14:16.840 to do them both that's what this budget is designed to do and 14:16.840 --> 14:21.320 we need your help to succeed I think this committee again for 14:21.320 --> 14:24.610 supporting the bipartisan budget act that set the size of our 14:24.610 --> 14:29.860 budget our submission focuses on the budget shape making changes 14:29.860 --> 14:33.990 that are necessary and consequential we hope you approve it 14:35.550 --> 14:38.030 I know some may be looking at the difference between what we 14:38.030 --> 14:40.770 indicated last year when we would be asking for and with the 14:40.770 --> 14:46.620 budget deal gave us a net total of about 11 billion dollars last 14:47.530 --> 14:50.890 is provided by the bipartisan budget act out of a total of almost 14:50.890 --> 14:55.445 600 billion dollars I will reiterate that we've mitigated that 14:55.445 --> 15:00.230 difference and that this budget meets our needs in this context 15:00.230 --> 15:03.860 I have serious concerns with a proposal from one of the defense 15:03.875 --> 15:08.720 committees to underfund deities overseas war fighting accounts 15:08.720 --> 15:13.280 by 18 billion dollars and spend that money on problematic items 15:13.280 --> 15:14.690 weak did not request 15:16.160 --> 15:19.310 well I don't expect this committee to consider such a proposal 15:19.360 --> 15:23.480 I have to say that this approach is deeply troubling and flawed 15:23.750 --> 15:24.810 for several reasons 15:26.080 --> 15:30.680 it's gambling with warfighting money at a time of war proposing 15:30.680 --> 15:33.830 to cut off our troops funding in places like afghanistan iraq 15:33.830 --> 15:38.110 and syria in the middle of the year it would spend money on things 15:38.110 --> 15:41.860 that are not deities highest unfunded priorities across the joint 15:41.860 --> 15:46.820 force buys for structure without the money to sustain it and 15:46.820 --> 15:51.910 keep it ready effectively creating hollow for structure and working 15:51.910 --> 15:55.630 against our efforts to restore readiness it doesn't address the 15:55.630 --> 16:00.430 much bigger strategic this deity faces of a hundred billion dollars 16:00.840 --> 16:05.660 in looming automatic cuts in fact it's a step in the direction 16:05.660 --> 16:09.550 of unraveling the bipartisan budget act which provided critical 16:09.550 --> 16:14.544 stability the deity needs now and desires for the future that's 16:14.580 --> 16:18.200 another road to nowhere with uncertain chances of other ever 16:18.200 --> 16:22.290 becoming law and a high probability of leading to more gridlock 16:22.570 --> 16:26.790 and another continuing resolution exactly the kind of terrible 16:26.790 --> 16:31.780 distraction we've seen for years but undercut stable planning 16:31.780 --> 16:35.690 and efficient use of taxpayer dollars to see spirits troops and 16:35.690 --> 16:42.100 their families baffles friends and emboldens foes I cannot support 16:42.100 --> 16:44.660 such maneuvers as secretary of defense 16:45.935 --> 16:50.980 fact is deities greatest strategic risk is losing the stability 16:50.980 --> 16:55.267 we got from the budget deal this year having uncertainty and 16:55.267 --> 16:59.460 sequester return in future years that's why going forward the 16:59.460 --> 17:02.966 biggest budget priority for a strategically as congress averting 17:02.980 --> 17:06.860 the return of sequestrations to prevent that hundred billion 17:06.860 --> 17:11.860 dollars in automatic cuts so we can maintain stability and sustain 17:11.860 --> 17:14.150 all these critical investments over time 17:15.960 --> 17:20.550 we seen this done before and that same support coming together 17:20.830 --> 17:25.050 is essential today to address the security challenges we face 17:25.050 --> 17:28.610 and to seize the opportunities within our grasp as long as we 17:28.610 --> 17:32.890 work together to do so I know our national security will be on 17:32.890 --> 17:37.080 the right path and america's military will continue to defend 17:37.080 --> 17:41.620 our country and help make a better world for generations to come 17:41.849 --> 17:50.450 back a very much a general carter we are now going to invite 17:50.450 --> 17:56.810 our secretary and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general 17:56.810 --> 18:02.240 dunford to make whatever opening statement he would submit to 18:02.240 --> 18:07.630 the committee and then we will turn to our members of the committee 18:07.630 --> 18:12.349 for any questions from the panel general dunford cherry cochrane 18:12.352 --> 18:15.300 noticing as moneypenny thanks for much for the opportunity join 18:15.300 --> 18:19.439 secretary carter the inspector mccord in the permit for her today 18:19.826 --> 18:22.420 i'm on to represent the extraordinary young men with men and 18:22.420 --> 18:26.010 women of the jaw which forced our soldiers sailors airmen marines 18:26.010 --> 18:29.800 and are civil servants remain our single most important competitive 18:29.800 --> 18:33.350 advantage thanks to your support unite states military's most 18:33.350 --> 18:36.740 capable fighting force in the world I don't believe we should 18:36.740 --> 18:39.880 ever send americans into a fair fight rather we have to maintain 18:39.880 --> 18:43.570 a joint force that has the capability and credibility to it sure 18:43.570 --> 18:47.280 our allies and partners the tour aggression and over match any 18:47.280 --> 18:50.860 potential adversary this requires us to continually improve our 18:50.860 --> 18:54.740 joint warfighting capabilities restore full spectrum readiness 18:55.040 --> 18:57.700 and develop the leaders who will serve as the foundation for 18:57.700 --> 19:01.108 the future united states is not confront which challenges from 19:01.108 --> 19:05.440 both traditional state and non state actors the department is 19:05.440 --> 19:08.870 identified five strategic challenges and secretary carter as 19:08.870 --> 19:13.420 outline of challenges russia china iran in north korea continued 19:13.420 --> 19:17.650 to invest in military capabilities that reduce our competitive 19:17.650 --> 19:21.200 advantage for also mansion or interest to competition with a 19:21.200 --> 19:24.680 military dimension that fall short of traditional or conflict 19:24.940 --> 19:29.140 in the threshold for a traditional military response examples 19:29.140 --> 19:32.290 include russian actions in ukraine chinese activities in the 19:32.290 --> 19:36.620 south china sea in iran's malign activity across the middle east 19:37.220 --> 19:40.544 at the same time non state actors such as I iceland alcaide oppose 19:40.544 --> 19:44.020 a threat to the homeland the markham people our partners and 19:44.020 --> 19:47.362 our allies given the opportunity such extremist groups would 19:47.362 --> 19:51.760 fundamentally change our way of life as we contend with the department's 19:51.760 --> 19:55.460 five strategic challenges we recognize that successful execution 19:55.460 --> 19:59.210 of our defense strategy requires that we maintain credible nuclear 19:59.530 --> 20:03.640 and conventional capabilities are strategic nuclear deterrent 20:03.640 --> 20:07.220 remains effective but its aging inner requires modernization 20:07.570 --> 20:10.422 therefore we are for a prioritizing investments needed for a 20:10.422 --> 20:15.058 safe secure and effective nuclear deterrent and also make investments 20:15.060 --> 20:18.080 to maintain a competitive advantage in our conventional capabilities 20:18.625 --> 20:21.750 it much further develop capabilities in a vital and increasingly 20:21.750 --> 20:26.780 contested domains of space cyberspace as a joint force acts to 20:26.780 --> 20:29.888 mitigate and respond to challenges we do so in the context of 20:29.903 --> 20:33.210 fiscal environment it is hampered her ability to plan and allocate 20:33.210 --> 20:37.414 resources most effectively despite torture relief by congress 20:37.414 --> 20:40.755 from sequester level funding the department has absorbed 800 20:40.755 --> 20:44.758 billion in cuts and faces an additional 100 billion of seaquest 20:44.758 --> 20:47.370 ration induce rich through fiscal year 21 20:48.790 --> 20:52.100 absorbing absorbing significant cuts from the past five years 20:52.350 --> 20:55.860 has resulted in our inner under investing in critical capabilities 20:56.360 --> 20:59.250 and unless we reached reversing course duration will be unable 20:59.250 --> 21:02.900 to execute the card the french strategy and specifically to address 21:02.900 --> 21:05.910 the five challenges that the secretary mentioned in his opening 21:05.910 --> 21:10.130 remarks the fiscal year 17 by g b gins to address the most critical 21:10.130 --> 21:14.010 investments required to maintain our competitive advantage and 21:14.010 --> 21:18.090 to the extent possible within the resources provided by the 2015 21:18.090 --> 21:22.098 bipartisan budget act it addresses the performance five challenges 21:22.620 --> 21:27.233 it does so by balancing three major areas areas investment in 21:27.233 --> 21:30.500 high and capabilities the cave fidelity in the capacity to meet 21:30.500 --> 21:34.880 our current operational demands and the need to rebuild our readiness 21:34.880 --> 21:38.290 after an extended period of war in the years ahead will need 21:38.290 --> 21:41.640 adequate funding levy levels and predictability to fully recover 21:41.850 --> 21:46.240 from over a decade of war in the late modernization a bow wave 21:46.240 --> 21:49.108 of procurement requirements in the future include the ohio a 21:49.109 --> 21:53.470 class submarine replacement continued cyber inspiration vestments 21:53.730 --> 21:56.840 and a long range strike bomber it will also be several years 21:56.840 --> 21:59.970 before we restore full spectrum readiness across the services 22:00.230 --> 22:03.710 and replenish your stocks of critical precision munitions and 22:03.710 --> 22:06.130 I know the committee is heard from the service chiefs on the 22:06.130 --> 22:10.130 specifics of readiness recovery in summary of satisfied that 22:10.130 --> 22:13.800 the f y 17 budget protests on the right trajectory but will take 22:13.800 --> 22:16.880 your continued support to ensure that the joint force as the 22:16.881 --> 22:21.566 depth the flexibility the readiness and responsiveness that ensures 22:21.568 --> 22:24.908 our men and women will never face a fair fight once again thank 22:24.908 --> 22:27.730 you for the opportunity to reform this morning in and with 40 22:27.730 --> 22:35.022 questions thank you general researcher comments in their leadership 22:35.531 --> 22:41.090 or nam gon or colonize senator from alabama mr shelby thank you 22:41.095 --> 22:45.800 miss chapman was secretary you alluded to a number of these things 22:45.800 --> 22:48.210 in your opening statement but 22:49.448 --> 22:55.120 correct me if if some observations might be off we have a resurgent 22:55.120 --> 23:00.530 russia under pluton whose seems to be very adventurous and to 23:00.530 --> 23:06.590 say the least on an nobody really mean at the moment of the new 23:06.590 --> 23:10.548 south and may be a danger to the world we have a channel and 23:10.610 --> 23:17.600 up on china it thinks long range that we do a lot of trade with 23:17.833 --> 23:22.790 but is determined to modernize or nuclear weapon system their 23:22.796 --> 23:28.610 dunedin cost a lot of money as you well know of and perhaps to 23:28.610 --> 23:33.040 build a blue water navy which takes years we know ended to say 23:33.040 --> 23:38.730 I am time looking forward to challenging us in some of the busiest 23:38.730 --> 23:46.011 trade routes in the world then we have iran coming on up 23:47.570 --> 23:51.083 perhaps we may be the ministrations looking for some common to 23:51.083 --> 23:55.470 talk with him something but I don't I don't know but I see that 23:55.471 --> 23:59.218 is a real danger then you got north korea which alluded to the 23:59.756 --> 24:05.080 album the only people and milk and reining him in would be china 24:05.720 --> 24:11.701 if they chose to then we've got the middle east end up perhaps 24:11.701 --> 24:16.303 in the fact toad dismemberment of some areas and things move 24:17.170 --> 24:21.760 away fighting in the middle east a more of a sense of containment 24:22.154 --> 24:27.281 unit are we fighting a war to win what is the goal lerman first 24:27.281 --> 24:31.918 let's talk about the macro stuff is that I just ended up considering 24:31.919 --> 24:36.241 I think in I think you characterize things up quite well I I 24:36.350 --> 24:44.660 I don't believe that the a nuclear agreement with iran with constitutes 24:44.760 --> 24:50.980 a grand bargain of any kind or lead to a bureau de talked of 24:50.980 --> 24:54.897 any kind of relief or not a lancaster did not constitute about 24:55.292 --> 25:00.110 it well it that takes off the table one danger to us but we are 25:00.110 --> 25:06.610 standing guard unchanged in our posture here they're up because 25:06.637 --> 25:10.770 iran the possibility to rainey in aggression malign activities 25:10.770 --> 25:13.591 in the region our friends and allies that's unchanged neck is 25:13.610 --> 25:16.870 the second part of your question which is about the strategy 25:16.870 --> 25:20.870 in the middle east caught in general and I think that the middle 25:20.870 --> 25:26.930 east is a very complex and disturbed place but our eyes are firmly 25:26.930 --> 25:32.890 on american interests those are clear the place may be turbulent 25:32.940 --> 25:37.280 but our interests are clear one of those interests is an across 25:37.280 --> 25:40.651 the paramount one is defending our own people from terrorism 25:40.652 --> 25:46.480 rising there and that is why we're um intent upon determined 25:46.480 --> 25:52.400 and i'm confident we will defeat isis in iraq and syria up but 25:52.430 --> 25:56.820 as you also indicate god there must follow that day some putting 25:56.820 --> 26:00.880 back together of iraq and syria as places that can keep their 26:00.880 --> 26:04.466 own order it's a big challenge in a and it's one that we are 26:04.720 --> 26:07.910 we we work on with prime minister a body I just saw him last 26:07.910 --> 26:11.530 week chairman was in was in iraq syria is a much more complicated 26:11.530 --> 26:17.070 situation but the sector carries a working on the diplomacy associated 26:17.580 --> 26:21.762 with that but I think we start with not the complications of 26:21.762 --> 26:24.700 a complicated region were generally speck to go away anytime 26:24.700 --> 26:28.031 soon but with american national interests and our need to defend 26:28.031 --> 26:34.770 them a secretary of brings up to date on russia it from your 26:34.770 --> 26:39.201 perspective on the listed on classified hearing here but um 26:40.574 --> 26:44.270 acknowledging earned about russia in time in a yes yes and I 26:44.270 --> 26:48.830 think you characterized it got quite so well in our response 26:48.830 --> 26:54.780 to that in our posture anat is a is a strong one unbalanced one 26:54.830 --> 26:58.343 strong in the sense that we are making investments I detailed 26:58.350 --> 27:01.480 some of those are budget details more to make sure that we keep 27:01.480 --> 27:07.770 our military edge their number one yes I wear also a quadrupling 27:08.154 --> 27:11.860 the european reassurance initiative which allows us to do more 27:12.100 --> 27:16.560 with our nato partners there were challenging that our nato partners 27:16.560 --> 27:20.035 in working with them to develop what i've called them a new play 27:20.035 --> 27:23.482 book for you know a play book that look that aimed to suppress 27:23.482 --> 27:28.910 the kind of aggression or undermining little green men type undermining 27:29.035 --> 27:31.850 little be different from the old cold war situation but still 27:31.850 --> 27:34.870 needs to be countered so we have a lot of concerns about russia 27:34.980 --> 27:40.720 we work with them or we can I but I know where where we can't 27:40.720 --> 27:45.326 we need to stand strong believe in a tough world on the server 27:45.388 --> 27:49.977 are just a tigress with just a minute to the r d one 80 engines 27:49.977 --> 27:53.157 with pat talked about this we worked with you before you can 27:53.157 --> 27:59.398 match some of us out here and uh how important is it one to for 27:59.453 --> 28:03.130 us to build the emir eric an engine which we all want to do you 28:03.130 --> 28:07.840 go down to not to rely on anybody except herself and how important 28:07.840 --> 28:13.310 is it that we help those engines a number of them for a few years 28:13.433 --> 28:17.970 we do this for national security to keep well haven't yet our 28:17.970 --> 28:22.201 budget by does propose that we continue to buy our 81 east for 28:22.201 --> 28:27.090 a time at all explain why down the road we want to have two or 28:27.090 --> 28:31.120 more kite additive launch service providers that are purely american 28:31.410 --> 28:34.768 that's what we'd like to get to in the meantime we have to launch 28:34.768 --> 28:38.410 our national security payloads and where two ways we can do that 28:38.670 --> 28:44.800 we can hold our noses by already one eighties until that situation 28:44.800 --> 28:45.600 is created 28:47.000 --> 28:51.520 or n and fly atlases with artie one eighties the alternative 28:51.600 --> 28:56.100 is to fly are payloads on delta which is technically feasible 28:56.100 --> 28:57.600 but much more expensive 28:58.870 --> 29:03.920 and so that's the choice and we have chosen the choice of elf 29:04.142 --> 29:10.520 going atlas recognizing the distasteful fact that that necessitates 29:10.790 --> 29:15.730 purchase of up to 18 more arty one 80 engines the alternative 29:15.730 --> 29:18.489 being delta but the alternative being much more expensive it's 29:18.489 --> 29:21.020 us it's that simple thank you very. Much 29:25.320 --> 29:30.220 the chair now recognizes senator steve gaines to distinguish 29:30.220 --> 29:34.991 friend from montana think miss chairman thinks or to carter john 29:35.005 --> 29:39.170 dumping its morning a last month the present held nuclear summit 29:40.010 --> 29:43.100 here in washington speaking about the need for our I to protect 29:43.141 --> 29:47.689 their nuclear weapons and all the same time well here in america 29:47.689 --> 29:50.880 in our backyards were not meeting our own security standards 29:51.592 --> 29:55.160 and made public now that are vietnam era helicopters don't meet 29:55.160 --> 29:57.971 the requirements to provide adequate security to the nuclear 29:57.990 --> 30:02.190 silos in montana as well as wyoming and north dakota the air 30:02.190 --> 30:06.510 force is known about this since before nine 11 given the increased 30:06.510 --> 30:09.760 risk for terrorism here at home and concerned at how low the 30:09.760 --> 30:14.227 priority list this seems to be the air force still has not decided 30:14.258 --> 30:17.893 of having an replaced its helicopters but either direction they 30:17.893 --> 30:21.900 go to take over europe and that's unacceptable a secretary carter 30:22.070 --> 30:25.290 what steps is department taken to move this timeline forward 30:25.870 --> 30:28.970 and when can we expect to see helicopter that actually meet the 30:28.970 --> 30:31.820 skill requirements to properly defend her icy. Beanz 30:34.236 --> 30:38.220 thank you senator for sodomy associate myself with your basic 30:38.510 --> 30:42.696 premise which is we need a safe secure and reliable nuclear deterrent 30:42.738 --> 30:48.250 as far into the future as I can see I mean and by the I c b adams 30:48.250 --> 30:53.040 or critical part of that and then get it for their safety a replacement 30:53.084 --> 30:58.645 the u h one engines which are now the the helicopters that variant 30:58.720 --> 31:02.214 helicopters that convey the security forces around the silo fields 31:02.214 --> 31:06.256 as you very well know I definitely need to be replaced they need 31:06.256 --> 31:10.710 to be done that did that to be done urgently I monitoring that 31:10.710 --> 31:15.920 closely the acquisition strategy that the air force and be under 31:15.920 --> 31:19.560 sector privatization technology logistics or putting up together 31:19.560 --> 31:22.380 to do that there are a couple of alternatives there they're moving 31:22.380 --> 31:25.210 forward with that and I think perhaps the best thing I can do 31:25.210 --> 31:29.940 it is offer you a briefing on their acquisition strategy but 31:29.940 --> 31:35.280 they are under direction to go quickly in view precisely about 31:35.319 --> 31:40.209 the fact that you the site and that the admiral haney has circa 31:40.440 --> 31:44.112 certainly brought to my attention also the chairman's attention 31:44.112 --> 31:47.600 some very worthy issue appreciate you a pervert porsche northern 31:47.600 --> 31:51.110 border there it's big country out there in montana the dakotas 31:51.110 --> 31:54.210 and so for so we I appreciate your support of the for a briefing 31:54.210 --> 31:57.730 on that second trader as well I wanted to department considered 31:57.790 --> 32:00.950 activating national guard or utilizing other resources that might 32:00.950 --> 32:03.880 secure the weapons until the air force purchased a replacement 32:03.880 --> 32:08.030 helicopter the meets requirements on the early as center that 32:08.030 --> 32:12.023 may be a very a good idea i've not heard that in our discussions 32:12.023 --> 32:16.670 on take that back in adelaide's should say that the the the the 32:16.670 --> 32:23.956 guard in general around the country provides a critical ogm in 32:23.958 --> 32:31.160 taishan for us in northcom in also stretch come up so it is part 32:31.160 --> 32:35.220 of the planning in both of those commands to make use of the 32:35.220 --> 32:39.110 reserve component including the guard across the guard is proving 32:39.110 --> 32:43.121 very valuable to us ever sees him for the last 15 years effects 32:43.122 --> 32:48.170 or to carter i'm on subtle about cyber attacks a potential threat 32:48.170 --> 32:52.340 to our our nuclear assets at the fact the air force can't physically 32:52.340 --> 32:55.981 secure our nuclear weapons makes me concerned that they can protect 32:55.981 --> 32:59.125 them from one of her fastest growing threats the nation faces 32:59.134 --> 33:03.080 nested leah the cyber attack threat i've been in the nuclear 33:03.110 --> 33:06.940 launch centers there in montana effect they look like something 33:06.940 --> 33:11.340 out of a cold war movie and that's because m been updated since 33:11.340 --> 33:15.505 then in facsimile communications equipment was designed in 19 33:15.505 --> 33:18.692 75 critical communications equipment and think if I remember 33:18.692 --> 33:21.970 john denver's thank god i'm a country boy was a top 10 hit that 33:21.970 --> 33:25.961 year later stance more equipment may actually have it's been 33:26.000 --> 33:29.523 first the risk of cyber attacks is out there especially true 33:29.523 --> 33:32.440 with communications equipment because some of our new killer 33:32.440 --> 33:36.810 emergency action messages and retargeting messages are traveling 33:36.810 --> 33:40.800 over telephone wires I think we both can agree there's some risk 33:40.800 --> 33:44.600 in that a secretary carter what steps is a department taking 33:44.600 --> 33:48.950 this year to increase the cyber defense ever nuclear command 33:49.380 --> 33:53.890 control communication systems and of well known sinner i'm highly 33:53.890 --> 33:57.940 aware of the issue you raised in I and my very first job in the 33:57.940 --> 34:02.209 department of defense in 19 80 with addison center nuclear command 34:02.210 --> 34:06.480 control and a lot of those systems have changed since then only 34:06.480 --> 34:09.420 good thing i'll say about that is that because they're not heavily 34:09.420 --> 34:12.700 computerized they're not easy to get into with a cyber attack 34:12.700 --> 34:17.900 either up but that we do need to modernize them out as you say 34:17.900 --> 34:21.562 and we're investing a lot of management attention I think of 34:21.562 --> 34:27.442 the chairman in myself and also resources in doing so i'd prefer 34:27.442 --> 34:32.000 going into detail with that got in the form of a classified briefing 34:32.000 --> 34:39.695 to you on the side but I see your basic point which is that on 34:40.135 --> 34:43.840 that as we modernized the command control system in inevitably 34:43.840 --> 34:50.440 includes modern information technology and it will end of necessity 34:50.762 --> 34:56.322 have cyber vulnerabilities and cyber comes first job is to protect 34:56.322 --> 35:00.150 their own networks and admiral rogers are cyber conquering commander 35:00.370 --> 35:04.850 knows that nuclear command control is our most important network 35:04.852 --> 35:07.570 therefore the most important part of the most important part 35:07.570 --> 35:11.873 of his job is to secure the nuclear command control system from 35:11.930 --> 35:15.706 cyber attack and chairman chairman as that claimed by reworking 35:15.720 --> 35:19.152 that macbeth you like ants on the german astronomer think it 35:19.169 --> 35:21.899 you'll see that even to say what we do an advocacy of two places 35:21.901 --> 35:24.826 in the budget no mention the nuclear command control of franconia 35:24.831 --> 35:28.064 to modernize that anand is about six point seven billion dollars 35:28.064 --> 35:32.193 and budget this year for the invested in cyber specifically an 35:32.207 --> 35:35.560 act both of those areas remain proof of the challenge that you 35:35.560 --> 35:39.140 talked about I think jennifer dunn and the sedan with the senator 35:39.140 --> 35:42.560 is higher on the semmering john dunford so um I got raised right 35:42.560 --> 35:43.030 thank you 35:44.375 --> 35:48.080 a distinguished editor from missouri mr blown up thank you chairman 35:48.080 --> 35:52.995 of our talk good to both the abuse both general dunford and secretary 35:52.995 --> 35:57.813 on or about a bill that the eider duce last year was sergio brand 35:57.818 --> 36:01.660 from new york called a military family stability act I think 36:01.660 --> 36:07.600 it's very much in line with the initiative the damn you're making 36:07.600 --> 36:10.490 the force of the future initiative were people could even stay 36:10.490 --> 36:14.950 at an assignment longer if that was something that worked better 36:14.950 --> 36:21.960 for education or spouses professional career what we were proposing 36:22.120 --> 36:26.500 sectarian journal what we're proposing an are proposing is that 36:26.500 --> 36:30.730 there'd be another option which would be the people that the 36:30.730 --> 36:36.000 family could either stay a little longer or could move a little 36:36.000 --> 36:41.210 earlier um we'd like some help that I think we're not getting 36:41.330 --> 36:45.600 from the department to talk about how we could make this work 36:45.600 --> 36:49.470 in a way that would to minimize the cost would still maximize 36:49.510 --> 36:54.450 the opportunity I and in general I I know that in your great 36:54.450 --> 36:57.300 career you have to seen a number of times when families were 36:57.300 --> 37:02.760 needlessly frustrated because the school year was a monk of the 37:03.139 --> 37:08.440 torch started the or mud after it was over or out we had a we 37:08.440 --> 37:12.328 had a media the opportunity on this and had several spouses come 37:12.328 --> 37:18.375 in one being transferred from florida to or from or why a rather 37:18.392 --> 37:22.300 to fort leonard wood so she got a teaching contract at the university 37:22.300 --> 37:27.100 of missouri science and technology orgy she got in a ph d program 37:27.100 --> 37:30.380 at saint louis university but then the move didn't occur in june 37:30.710 --> 37:34.880 and then moved in the current july of and she went ahead and 37:34.880 --> 37:39.010 had to move her husband would have been more than willing to 37:39.010 --> 37:43.260 go to available quarters on the base and let her move become 37:43.562 --> 37:48.070 the move for the family and that just wasn't allowed I would 37:48.070 --> 37:50.770 think in what you're trying to do to keep these highly trained 37:50.770 --> 37:55.210 people in the military or a greater level of flexibility so what 37:55.250 --> 37:58.620 I want just responded that but also what I want you to do is 37:58.620 --> 38:02.900 helpless figure out if it keeps costs down to limit this to two 38:02.900 --> 38:08.190 times in a career four 60 days instead of six months we proposed 38:08.190 --> 38:12.400 up to six months thinking seldom what a family used as seldom 38:12.400 --> 38:15.740 will they use it for six months but when we talk to people in 38:15.740 --> 38:19.460 your office at well we wanna multiply this by six months for 38:19.460 --> 38:22.670 every family that ever possibly moves and assume they'll all 38:22.670 --> 38:26.280 take advantage of it as just not reasonable and I think it's 38:26.280 --> 38:29.930 what you're trying to do but we could use more flexibility when 38:29.930 --> 38:34.320 someone needs to move wants to move but just a month or two would 38:34.320 --> 38:37.333 make a big difference for their families up you just both responded 38:37.343 --> 38:40.620 that that's my question i'll start off and then adjourned on 38:40.620 --> 38:43.989 for not have talked about this for some meat that few in center 38:43.997 --> 38:45.340 field ran for 38:46.790 --> 38:50.920 the identifying this issue I couldn't agree with you more we 38:50.920 --> 38:55.369 are a married force more than 70% of our 38:56.750 --> 39:01.970 officers are married up more than half of oregon listed are married 39:02.360 --> 39:05.940 and so we tried to do everything we can and consistent with the 39:05.940 --> 39:10.920 profession of arms and readiness and cost to make their military 39:10.920 --> 39:15.713 service and their family life compatible that's why we extended 39:15.715 --> 39:20.780 to a maternity leave and paternity leave but only sees as much 39:20.780 --> 39:24.290 as we could consistent with cost of readiness and have taken 39:24.290 --> 39:27.430 other steps I pursued that and and to your question would look 39:27.430 --> 39:30.810 forward to working with you on that I think as I understand the 39:30.810 --> 39:34.463 proposals we worked on the project cost is understand the content 39:34.466 --> 39:38.980 agreement dampened and managing the cost is the issue so we're 39:38.980 --> 39:43.948 happy to work with you to that end and with that a year after 39:43.948 --> 39:47.801 the chairman's death should try i'm already challenged you outlined 39:47.801 --> 39:50.230 in in that in like secretary carter over much appreciate your 39:50.230 --> 39:53.549 focus on military families and I think without hyperbole you 39:53.549 --> 39:57.060 could say we we could never have the quality of the all volunteer 39:57.060 --> 39:59.670 force we have today we would never be able to have them with 39:59.670 --> 40:03.680 donald past 14 years in particular there were we not to have 40:03.680 --> 40:07.271 strong families supporting our men women in you informed her 40:07.354 --> 40:10.690 of also looked at it and one l l commit to working with you in 40:10.690 --> 40:13.538 your staff not to try to make whatever judgments and that sort 40:13.538 --> 40:17.480 of move that through him and I have all my career seen her countless 40:17.480 --> 40:21.077 individuals who had made those difficult choices out of my life 40:21.077 --> 40:23.590 are nearer to exactly how many moves with may but I think it's 40:23.590 --> 40:26.660 somewhere in your 20 in it's actually a delay in seven years 40:26.660 --> 40:29.919 now our children are all grown switch leisure these days but 40:29.930 --> 40:32.515 but I have made a choice on a couple occasions to proceed my 40:32.515 --> 40:35.239 family for exactly the reason you outline so that they could 40:35.239 --> 40:38.240 finish the school year and enjoyment by next in my next duty 40:38.240 --> 40:42.120 station so conceptually a fully support what what we're trying 40:42.120 --> 40:45.840 to do here and again appreciate your focus on that and I and 40:45.840 --> 40:48.160 I think that what we wanna do is balance the money up what I 40:48.160 --> 40:51.902 would say is this that if we had another dollar spent on tom 40:52.185 --> 40:55.660 on families this might not be priority one but it be a priority 40:55.660 --> 40:57.828 in other words there's there's a number things our families have 40:57.828 --> 41:00.140 come to us and it's a big piece of what I think we won't talk 41:00.140 --> 41:03.241 about as well as if we have a dollar spent on families where 41:03.241 --> 41:06.553 would we spend it in which military machine are important and 41:06.559 --> 41:08.790 what would like to make that part of dialogue as. Well 41:11.260 --> 41:14.680 this gerrymandered recognizes the distinguished senator from 41:14.680 --> 41:20.490 maine senator collins thank you very much mr chairman secretary 41:20.490 --> 41:26.031 carter and general dunford ratchet as secretariat senator shelby 41:26.047 --> 41:31.280 is pointed out has been increasingly aggressive in the eu crane 41:31.280 --> 41:35.722 in the baltics and in the middle east the reckless semper fi 41:35.725 --> 41:40.398 kitab actions that the russian military forces deployed in the 41:40.398 --> 41:46.000 series increase the likelihood of a miscalculation that could 41:46.000 --> 41:51.930 lead to real problems between russia and nato in addition to 41:51.930 --> 41:57.730 the violation of turkish airspace by a russian fighter to russian 41:57.730 --> 42:04.260 fighter jets recently flew dangerous lady and recklessly close 42:04.690 --> 42:11.583 to a u s destroyer the uss donald cook which was built in bath 42:11.589 --> 42:17.355 iron works by the way in recent days and russian helicopters 42:17.355 --> 42:24.100 shortly thereafter also harass the destroyer flying in a simulated 42:24.180 --> 42:31.280 attack profile and failing to respond to numerous safety advisories 42:31.738 --> 42:36.720 that were sent in both russian and ditched in the english I am 42:36.720 --> 42:42.100 interested in knowing what conversations you each have had with 42:42.100 --> 42:47.750 the russian defense ministry to protest these very dangerous 42:47.910 --> 42:52.740 incidents and to reduce the likelihood every russian military 42:52.740 --> 42:59.540 forces operating near our nato forces I will engage in behavior 42:59.540 --> 43:04.470 that eventually is going to lead to a military engagement or 43:04.540 --> 43:09.620 a serious problem and accident I think thanks and personally 43:09.620 --> 43:15.940 say I share your concern as we do more art and as russia does 43:15.940 --> 43:21.270 more that's the nature of all the tension that has built up in 43:21.270 --> 43:26.070 europe especially on over the last couple years since events 43:26.070 --> 43:32.130 in crimea are a new craving it's important that they russian 43:32.130 --> 43:37.550 military conduct itself professionally in the way ours invariably 43:37.550 --> 43:41.857 does and russia has not always done that and answer your question 43:41.857 --> 43:45.960 i'll start in the chairman can do it we do have a channel both 43:45.960 --> 43:51.560 for the both for the middle east at a military to military working 43:51.560 --> 43:57.223 channel uk to deal with unprofessional conduct in unsafe or or 43:57.608 --> 44:03.540 or and potentially a dangerous incidents that we have that it 44:03.540 --> 44:07.510 see we have it in the air it operates quite well by the way in 44:07.532 --> 44:13.561 syria even though we had russia don't see the events in syria 44:13.561 --> 44:18.010 they're all the same way we have managed at the end of professional 44:18.060 --> 44:23.890 military level to not to avoid the incidents and that's worked 44:24.020 --> 44:28.330 very well um but it hasn't worked for dot perfectly all around 44:28.330 --> 44:32.040 the world and the dam about some we do bring these things up 44:32.040 --> 44:34.590 through the three russian channels we have seen more of them 44:34.940 --> 44:38.720 in recent years they are dangerous it's on in professional behavior 44:38.947 --> 44:43.110 and extensive travels to founder of sri sri concern about both 44:43.110 --> 44:46.779 russian capability development and or behavior out of leyte the 44:46.779 --> 44:49.890 secretary talked about the specific mechanism we have in place 44:50.120 --> 44:53.070 to deal with these kind of issues on an issue that a dialogue 44:53.510 --> 44:56.535 not in the fall with my counterpart in a gentle gracia model 44:56.536 --> 45:00.110 that now spoken to him three times the height in the real reason 45:00.110 --> 45:03.261 for tron was stablished their relationship is exactly to get 45:03.261 --> 45:05.820 at the issue that you raised that is to mitigate the risk of 45:05.820 --> 45:08.630 miscalculation which when you look at the nuclear enterprise 45:08.633 --> 45:12.472 a siren approached a surprise conventional capabilities in we 45:12.472 --> 45:15.940 increasingly see now of those activities that really fall short 45:15.940 --> 45:19.070 of traditional war but nonetheless is the effect on national 45:19.070 --> 45:22.842 interest national activists reporters I think the risk of miscalculation 45:22.842 --> 45:26.150 arguably is greater than it was in a cold war because the spectrum 45:26.150 --> 45:29.594 of challenges as writer today than it was traditionally made 45:29.630 --> 45:33.310 of narrative into the just in the current price so now we have 45:33.310 --> 45:37.540 agreed not to share or not in public the nature of our conversation 45:37.540 --> 45:41.280 short maintain that dialogue over time but put our nation has 45:41.320 --> 45:44.590 has conveyed the message that you'd expect us to convey on these 45:44.590 --> 45:50.270 particular incidents thank you I I hope it was a very tough message 45:50.590 --> 45:56.810 by lane by 25 seconds that I have remaining let me just express 45:56.810 --> 46:04.010 to sack terry carter by disappointment in the department's reversal 46:04.280 --> 46:10.000 of its commitment to purge fide american made the athletic footwear 46:10.000 --> 46:15.420 to new recruits under the longstanding barium them and our troops 46:15.420 --> 46:20.580 are supposed to be outfitted with the clothing and footwear that 46:20.580 --> 46:25.540 is made in this country and that's why I have recently introduced 46:25.540 --> 46:30.110 legislation that's been co sponsored by several of my colleagues 46:30.110 --> 46:35.356 to require the department to follow the law making the stricture 46:35.387 --> 46:39.440 anc you senator as center distinguished senator from illinois 46:40.270 --> 46:43.687 mr durban was chairman thank you members of committee on apologize 46:43.687 --> 46:46.465 for not being here at the outset we had to have been last minute 46:46.465 --> 46:49.770 to meeting caucus meeting called and we're doing everything within 46:49.770 --> 46:52.670 our party maintain peace and harmony in the senate so took few 46:52.670 --> 46:58.450 moments a lot of lightning and attending an apologize I saw that 46:58.450 --> 47:03.170 video about you both saw it two as as planes were flying over 47:03.170 --> 47:09.062 the donald cook right there right over their ship in iowa called 47:09.069 --> 47:12.970 leap so a russian ambassador afterwards and said what was a song 47:12.970 --> 47:16.070 about always as they were they were perfectly within their rights 47:16.070 --> 47:20.270 to do that didn't sound right to me so forgive me if you will 47:20.270 --> 47:24.250 see basic standards here where we can judge that kind of conduct 47:24.250 --> 47:27.660 and also if you can put your place but yourself in the place 47:27.660 --> 47:31.330 of the commander of that vessel as he sees a foreign aircraft 47:31.330 --> 47:36.740 approaching he has a responsibility to to the crew on board what 47:37.300 --> 47:41.870 what made what standards would he use in response well thanks 47:41.870 --> 47:46.423 very secure madonna and darling i'll i'll start out and then 47:46.423 --> 47:50.991 asked the chairman to the kitchen but it is quite clear what 47:51.081 --> 47:56.400 standards of professionalism are when one military aircraft is 47:56.400 --> 48:00.990 approaching other warship so it's not plausible that that end 48:00.990 --> 48:04.397 of conduct was normal unprofessional way we don't think whatever 48:04.663 --> 48:09.070 profession is again our people conduct themselves normally and 48:09.070 --> 48:13.120 professionally in all cases with respect to the behavior of our 48:13.120 --> 48:19.194 own people around here is very commendable are they didn't act 48:19.197 --> 48:22.916 in such ways to escalate what was in it currently unsafe situation 48:23.027 --> 48:27.510 but there's a real risk there because that ship captain has a 48:27.510 --> 48:31.360 responsibility to defend his ship and inherent right of self 48:31.360 --> 48:36.500 defense and so he had a nap to ask anybody if the chain of command 48:36.500 --> 48:39.420 to me or anything when it comes to its inherent right of self 48:39.420 --> 48:42.730 defense and we expect an exercise that right in an appropriate 48:42.730 --> 48:48.700 way that creates in circumstances like this a an inherent danger 48:48.850 --> 48:54.760 and that's why what the russians were doing is so unprofessional 48:54.860 --> 48:59.350 and so concerning to us but our own people comported themselves 48:59.350 --> 49:03.389 as they always do in the way to expect very professional during 49:04.000 --> 49:06.972 which john is it is a very fundamental requirement that the russians 49:06.972 --> 49:09.820 said that they didn't observing marriage to communicate clearly 49:10.120 --> 49:13.407 what their intent is and why is that some foreigners because 49:13.520 --> 49:17.470 manning offered the ship has to make an assessment as the hostile 49:17.470 --> 49:21.820 action in hostile intent in a detail a combination of unsafe 49:21.850 --> 49:25.190 abh and practices in his well known norms that they should have 49:25.529 --> 49:30.480 their remained within a combined with the yet failing to properly 49:30.480 --> 49:33.840 communicate what they were doing which the commanding off in 49:33.840 --> 49:36.900 a situation where he's gonna make a judgment call him back to 49:36.900 --> 49:41.250 centre college's question that type of behavior absolutely at 49:41.250 --> 49:45.021 risk the risk in a step which is rich in this calculation in 49:45.021 --> 49:48.829 obviously something much broader than just the russian unsafe 49:48.860 --> 49:52.310 inner response behaviour in and around the uss donald cook several 49:52.310 --> 49:55.240 times i've had this conversation with the russian ambassador 49:55.540 --> 50:00.889 about my concerns about the safety of the baltics poland and 50:00.900 --> 50:04.380 many of our allies in that region the world he has said it almost 50:04.380 --> 50:07.191 laughs me off this isn't why do you keep bringing that up it's 50:07.299 --> 50:10.750 I don't know why you're so concerned with this incident occurring 50:10.790 --> 50:16.878 in and near that theater is proof positive that the job we can't 50:16.878 --> 50:19.880 take this for granted I can assure you I think you already know 50:20.200 --> 50:23.940 the feelings of these countries as the united states is essential 50:23.970 --> 50:28.830 to their own future and on our nato alliance which continues 50:28.830 --> 50:31.670 to be an important part of it now there's a pretty substantial 50:31.670 --> 50:35.423 increase in the european reassurance initiative ally in the request 50:35.423 --> 50:39.160 for the ministration and i'd like to ask you if you can to tell 50:39.160 --> 50:42.850 me expand a little bit on what we think in this coming year needs 50:42.850 --> 50:45.380 to be done to make it clear that we're going to stand by our 50:45.380 --> 50:50.527 allies in nato actually the whole host of things in a local advantage 50:50.900 --> 50:55.153 describes the most important ones in the countryman can not edward 50:55.158 --> 50:59.400 everett forgotten yes we have quadrupled our request for the 50:59.430 --> 51:03.110 iraq I hope we get favorable consideration of that we think it's 51:03.110 --> 51:08.353 necessary was again paid for uh it pays for more presents wrote 51:08.355 --> 51:12.760 on a rotational basis of u s forces ground forces air forces 51:12.760 --> 51:17.550 and naval forces in the theatre in britain with particular attention 51:17.550 --> 51:21.740 to the baltic states who are very much exposed on that flank 51:21.740 --> 51:28.790 of of nato on it also provides uk equipment including heavy equipment 51:29.430 --> 51:35.101 tanks armored personnel car carriers att artillery and so a fourth 51:35.260 --> 51:40.460 both rotational he deployed and in what in the old days we called 51:41.113 --> 51:44.978 prieto sets preposition sensors another name for a military or 51:45.311 --> 51:48.570 underground tunnel outside of the sector address and my time 51:48.570 --> 51:52.440 is up but I also believe that the build up in kaliningrad is 51:52.440 --> 51:55.820 something that we should be very mindful of most americans don't 51:55.820 --> 51:59.050 know we're kaliningrad as but it is smack dab in the middle of 51:59.050 --> 52:02.947 this theater and is controlled by the russians in the time of 52:02.947 --> 52:06.310 the senator has expired the distinguished senator from south 52:06.310 --> 52:11.082 carolina mr graham I think mister man about this is an appropriation 52:11.082 --> 52:14.274 syrinx or trying to figure out that we have the money right but 52:14.310 --> 52:18.180 if we go back and sequestrations next year if there's not some 52:18.180 --> 52:21.200 relief from sequestrations how much damage will that do to our 52:21.200 --> 52:25.860 ability to deal with the threats we just discussed while does 52:25.860 --> 52:29.470 a lot of damage and while it does the physical damage meaning 52:29.470 --> 52:33.626 of that we can't pay for the things that we have program what 52:33.627 --> 52:36.510 it serves they have advised the billeted to defend this nation 52:36.628 --> 52:41.984 does your groove that john danforth I do senator since 2011 when 52:41.984 --> 52:45.710 seaquest ration first when it in fact we've had the syrian civil 52:45.710 --> 52:49.099 war the collapse a libya of the rise of I saw holding territory 52:49.100 --> 52:53.061 the size of indiana russia's invasion the train accident and 52:53.061 --> 52:56.670 excitation of the crimea china's building islands over resource 52:56.670 --> 53:01.060 rich waters claimed by others the iranians or destabilizing the 53:01.060 --> 53:05.057 mideast they're defective control of four capitals in north korea's 53:05.070 --> 53:08.250 running wild is that a fair assessment of the highlights of what's 53:08.250 --> 53:09.530 happened since 20 11 53:10.992 --> 53:14.050 I may have left a few out of its affairs estimate of cantors 53:14.050 --> 53:16.950 world out there and that's why we got it will avoid sequestration 53:17.290 --> 53:22.180 since 2011 we cut defense spending by a hundred and 50 billion dollars 53:22.180 --> 53:25.616 does that make any sense to you given the threats I just extra 53:25.751 --> 53:29.403 i'd i'd die described in my opening statement my ear greylock 53:29.411 --> 53:34.029 january over the budget over the last 70 years away it's happened 53:34.089 --> 53:36.901 she agree with john brown for agri didn't make any sense from 53:37.080 --> 53:40.540 the last time we looked at a strategy driven budget not across 53:40.540 --> 53:44.530 the board yet non artificial number was 20 12 when you looked 53:44.530 --> 53:48.280 at the strategies we need to deal with the threats we face or 53:48.280 --> 53:52.230 400 billion dollars short of funding the at strategy I would 53:52.230 --> 53:54.390 you say now is the time to close that gap 53:55.821 --> 54:00.530 ah two things about that that you've got it we we have done and 54:00.530 --> 54:08.359 I are out of a job which is to create our budget around our strategy 54:08.359 --> 54:11.820 I describe that strategy in the principal threats are that it 54:11.820 --> 54:15.900 needs time to counter at the on the ad say about 20 12 is it 54:15.900 --> 54:19.610 now 26teen and so things are different and I think you gave some 54:19.610 --> 54:22.600 examples of ways in which they get is a performer not trying 54:22.600 --> 54:25.420 to carry out a strategy of that is for years all were trying 54:25.420 --> 54:29.320 to carry out her strategy of to day and where we have a russia 54:29.490 --> 54:33.760 that is more clearly not problematic than it was four years ago 54:34.102 --> 54:37.630 we had the eisele campaigned to wage so both in the base and 54:37.630 --> 54:40.722 the oko you see reflected the strategy that's appropriate right 54:40.730 --> 54:44.529 now catches over 400 billion dollars short at 20 12 and the threats 54:44.529 --> 54:49.330 were less than half a percentage of the ost these budget is healthcare 54:50.548 --> 54:57.656 ah the healthcare is about a 50 billion out of the five a $500 54:57.766 --> 55:01.960 to us about about that little lever 10% while at pearl had been 55:01.960 --> 55:07.850 15 years well the it had it had been growing as health care costs 55:07.850 --> 55:12.057 had throughout the country in a really sustainable way assistant 55:12.083 --> 55:15.271 was ruled out for you know it has slowed I don't think that we 55:15.320 --> 55:18.340 take credit for their own management that regard that's a trend 55:18.340 --> 55:20.980 you see around the country as well but is very welcome to us 55:21.250 --> 55:23.470 because 50 billion dollars a lot of money we wanna take good 55:23.470 --> 55:26.040 care of our people in their families but 50 billion dollars we 55:26.040 --> 55:30.030 haven't had an imam a jasmine in traquair since 19 95 of any 55:30.030 --> 55:33.900 significance is it's time to have a premium adjustment nut we 55:33.900 --> 55:37.070 have made some adjustments we and we are proposing more this 55:37.070 --> 55:41.010 year by what percentage of tracker cost absorbed by the patient 55:41.010 --> 55:46.270 population in skits and undersecretary mccord knows i'm sure 55:46.270 --> 55:47.567 we can get you that number 55:49.350 --> 55:54.550 5% I think so to get back with me on that uh just got back from 55:54.550 --> 55:57.720 around spain marines are doing a great job as they do everywhere 55:58.320 --> 56:02.320 their goal their their mission there is to provide a quick reaction 56:02.320 --> 56:05.480 force in case one of our embassies or consulates in that part 56:05.480 --> 56:09.240 of ireland after a finds itself in a situation of bengazi they 56:09.240 --> 56:14.490 fly the d 22 I was told they have two teams akin preposition 56:14.558 --> 56:17.848 in in a couple days get the world we need to go they're doing 56:17.850 --> 56:22.020 the best that can moa to have as also told due to training problems 56:22.020 --> 56:25.789 with our pilots they're gonna take six of the v 20 two's out 56:25.789 --> 56:29.000 of the fight the redeployment back to the united states that 56:29.002 --> 56:32.790 have more plane so there are palettes can not meet their training 56:32.790 --> 56:34.406 requirements have you heard that john danforth 56:35.949 --> 56:39.199 at the center and I have a night you know tell you that that 56:39.199 --> 56:43.070 is characteristic of the aviation prizes across the board there's 56:43.070 --> 56:46.374 not enough what we call ready basic aircraft using light alloy 56:46.378 --> 56:51.120 is committed to know if there's a bad situation next year that 56:51.120 --> 56:54.900 the marines cannot get there the because of budget problems for 56:54.900 --> 56:58.440 him to take it aircraft out of the fight redeploying back to 56:58.440 --> 57:02.306 the united states and their capability deploys gunby kent half 57:03.890 --> 57:07.330 serve a touch of dutch and I we we we looked at this pretty hard 57:07.412 --> 57:10.677 that we can meet the requirement in a light not realize you just 57:10.677 --> 57:13.789 i'm wrong but I personally in a previous life not in this job 57:13.789 --> 57:16.802 in a previous life spent a lot of time on issues where they cannot 57:16.802 --> 57:20.810 take this example and that they are and there's gonna be sufficient 57:20.810 --> 57:23.651 points to meet a requirement stablished by the combatant commander 57:23.832 --> 57:27.200 and that will allow us to sustain it was the choice we hit we 57:27.200 --> 57:30.700 can meet the requirement once or twice with the continued her 57:30.706 --> 57:34.660 craft there on the ground right now or we can meet the requirement 57:34.660 --> 57:37.906 on a sustained basis with an adjusted level of the vera craft 57:38.400 --> 57:41.875 already have the perfect world I would have been able to do both 57:41.876 --> 57:45.554 witches have sufficient aircraft br mccomb in are in a sufficient 57:45.554 --> 57:49.500 deployment at low rates and second the operational forces forward 57:49.500 --> 57:53.350 to mitigate the risk further about what i'm confident of is that 57:53.350 --> 57:56.540 we have the minimum aircraft to meet the combat commands requirement 57:56.540 --> 58:00.090 and no i'm not happy that we had to reduce the member from 12 58:00.090 --> 58:03.430 the six that does reduce the flexibility reduces the depth but 58:03.430 --> 58:06.249 it was a decision and that obviously I was personally involved 58:06.249 --> 58:09.079 in a decision review had to make a decision I had to make that 58:09.079 --> 58:13.021 decision because we put you in that spot we were balancing risk 58:13.060 --> 58:16.280 on two sites in the in the in the risk management with it was 58:16.280 --> 58:20.840 the sixth aircraft canada just amplify that that that is a small 58:20.840 --> 58:25.895 piece of a major issue of the marine corps principal readiness 58:25.914 --> 58:29.124 to issue has to do with aircraft maintenance at this time of 58:29.131 --> 58:33.010 the senator has expired the distinguished senator from rhode 58:33.010 --> 58:37.720 island mr reid as I very much as german number sector a john 58:37.720 --> 58:40.800 john denver thank ya began with a headline from the new york 58:40.800 --> 58:45.186 times april twentieth russia bolsters its submarine fleet and 58:45.186 --> 58:49.390 tensions with the u s rice which raises a question from our perspective 58:49.430 --> 58:55.078 of thought the continued um construction and deployment of the 58:55.078 --> 58:59.640 virginia class submarine particularly to the pm which is a allows 58:59.640 --> 59:03.400 us to make up for the retirement of some converter ohio class 59:03.400 --> 59:08.890 submarines how critical is that to our ability to out confront 59:08.940 --> 59:13.671 what is already recognized as a resurgent russia and a c h it's 59:13.700 --> 59:17.670 critical for russia and all the other arm for at least the five 59:17.670 --> 59:21.643 other dangers we face and the action just wanna amplify what 59:21.649 --> 59:27.500 she said and what I said in my statement undersea dominance is 59:27.500 --> 59:32.769 an area of clear dominance we wanna keep that edge that's why 59:32.769 --> 59:36.619 as you say are doing the virginia payload module on the virginia 59:36.619 --> 59:40.315 submarines themselves up unmanned undersea being about and the 59:40.315 --> 59:43.620 things they were doing they can't really talk about our here 59:43.620 --> 59:47.318 but keeping that undersea dominance is critical and are required 59:47.319 --> 59:52.161 for adequate robust funding not just in this year but going forward 59:52.774 --> 59:57.430 and in fact are operationally to drop but I think the 48 submarines 59:57.430 --> 01:00:01.378 at some point a which is much lower than the cocom assistance 01:00:01.485 --> 01:00:07.431 years I fact I m out every cocom man I spoke to and also as the 01:00:07.468 --> 01:00:12.349 santos is it is that they cannot meet all the demands for submarines 01:00:12.349 --> 01:00:14.246 is that correct I don't answer 01:00:15.710 --> 01:00:18.650 it is directed in the numbers of submarines of the requested 01:00:18.660 --> 01:00:22.280 even today he is a senator by the combatant commander's falls 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:26.460 less than a majority we have and then switching gears but another 01:00:26.460 --> 01:00:31.339 aspect which is the ohio class replacement nuclear triad is set 01:00:31.339 --> 01:00:37.550 on a significant the deterrent force goodness I and the first 01:00:37.550 --> 01:00:40.335 leg of that the outcry that being 01:00:41.562 --> 01:00:46.630 be renovated or remodeled whatever the replaced is a submarine 01:00:46.660 --> 01:00:50.910 and summit argued among the adorable like of the cheetah village 01:00:50.910 --> 01:00:56.843 easton stealth out there it's going to require some relief in 01:00:56.843 --> 01:01:00.888 the navy's shipbuilding budget going forward you're contemplating 01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:04.050 the emissary yeah I think we all recognize the ohio replacement 01:01:04.330 --> 01:01:09.846 program if it comes out of the rest of the shipbuilding program 01:01:09.846 --> 01:01:14.301 of the navy will decimate the shipbuilding upper remedy we can 01:01:14.302 --> 01:01:18.400 have that serenity dish not funding funding and it is the critical 01:01:18.870 --> 01:01:25.440 of survivable and enduring partner two of our triad um and that's 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:30.825 why building this 12 boats with 16 tubes to replace the m 14 01:01:30.825 --> 01:01:34.030 votes we now have with a smaller number two while more troops 01:01:34.031 --> 01:01:38.363 overall allied and assembly has to be done because the whole 01:01:38.830 --> 01:01:42.870 hall has submerged and come to the surface so many times the 01:01:42.870 --> 01:01:45.963 whole get stressed and there's no way you can keep that going 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.080 so governments and we have a a natural sea based deterrent fun 01:01:50.081 --> 01:01:53.342 which is a prototype really not just for the sea this deterrence 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.360 but eventually as we get further down the development of the 01:01:57.680 --> 01:02:02.149 penetrating bomber and recapitalization or land bases until needed 01:02:02.163 --> 01:02:05.823 similar fine but that is a vehicle that you could use in do you 01:02:05.823 --> 01:02:08.540 interest rate using to help relieve this pressure 01:02:10.112 --> 01:02:13.688 I got ya we're gonna need some budget relief of some kind to 01:02:13.688 --> 01:02:16.766 it and it's unfortunately the money's gonna come with a new label 01:02:16.953 --> 01:02:22.030 after I have just one other issue agenda is embroiled in this 01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:27.104 is the impact of seaquest version most of your activities involve 01:02:27.312 --> 01:02:30.920 not just about defense but other agencies around charlestown 01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:33.500 particularly with respect to homeland security with the coast 01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:38.640 guard of the state department constant in every venue on the 01:02:38.640 --> 01:02:43.920 a face similar issues I presume in it even if you were to be 01:02:44.290 --> 01:02:48.120 granted relief if if they are not able to pull their weight and 01:02:48.170 --> 01:02:52.010 you can't get the job done it at a fair estimate a date it it 01:02:52.010 --> 01:02:55.570 is i've i've i've said this been part of our budget discussions 01:02:55.570 --> 01:02:58.799 over the last few years under sequester obviously in the sector 01:02:58.805 --> 01:03:01.390 offense I care very deeply about the defense budget but I know 01:03:01.640 --> 01:03:05.730 we can't do the job of protecting her country as one agency we 01:03:05.730 --> 01:03:09.308 do need help when security we need the intelligence that we need 01:03:09.308 --> 01:03:12.742 the state department a man that we need the energy department 01:03:12.742 --> 01:03:15.850 to mixed but contributions and so forth and then it on i'm also 01:03:15.850 --> 01:03:19.080 aware that all the technology leaping talking about come mps 01:03:19.080 --> 01:03:24.036 from the american technology base of the country's larger strength 01:03:24.062 --> 01:03:28.780 is also important to our military the strength so important as 01:03:28.780 --> 01:03:32.490 we are a high realize we can't do the job of ourselves I think 01:03:32.490 --> 01:03:36.699 the german watchmaker or the time as a senator has expired the 01:03:36.699 --> 01:03:40.778 distinguished honor to her from rhode island may ninth kansas 01:03:40.791 --> 01:03:45.870 sari club is recognized because i'm a sherman thank you very 01:03:45.870 --> 01:03:49.650 much should of let me ask just a couple questions make a few 01:03:49.650 --> 01:03:54.335 comments of mr secretary of we've had conversations about the 01:03:54.342 --> 01:03:57.931 guantanamo bay detainees are more follow up on that effort will 01:03:57.972 --> 01:04:02.480 tell you that I visited one time mobay I in february a couple 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.410 of observations of first of all I wanna make certain that our 01:04:06.410 --> 01:04:11.696 most senior military leaders are not after thoughts in the decision 01:04:11.696 --> 01:04:16.560 making process that may occur in regard to what happens to detainees 01:04:17.017 --> 01:04:20.140 are at get mo' I remained totally opposed to bring him to the 01:04:20.140 --> 01:04:24.200 united states a but I have had enough conversations with military 01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:29.570 officers or to believe that there is not to adequate consultation 01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:33.740 with folks who would be a fully engaged in narbonne that should 01:04:33.740 --> 01:04:36.390 be fully engage in the decision but fully engaged in their detention 01:04:36.390 --> 01:04:40.130 here in united states by is that none of it you're shaking your 01:04:40.130 --> 01:04:44.283 head I I I died i'd I first right thank you very much for visiting 01:04:44.283 --> 01:04:48.633 them in I mean incredibly proud of the job they do down there 01:04:48.637 --> 01:04:52.070 there are there are extraordinarily professional answer it's 01:04:52.100 --> 01:04:55.760 a lousy job in many ways that we we get inside preciate you're 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.760 going there and i'm sure dr mop to lash out to have you there 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:00.790 or I 01:05:02.030 --> 01:05:09.370 the reason that we take such care I do and to your target uniformed 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.977 involvement the chairman but also the attorney general the fbi 01:05:13.050 --> 01:05:16.720 I director and the director of the cia director national intelligence 01:05:16.720 --> 01:05:21.420 everybody in any of these matters that involve transfer to the 01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:25.010 custody of it the country the reason we take that so seriously 01:05:25.350 --> 01:05:30.160 is that we want that done in a way that it mitigates the risk 01:05:30.160 --> 01:05:34.254 of a return to which we saw a lot of him in years past don't 01:05:34.254 --> 01:05:37.320 wanna see any more that but the fundamental thing is that not 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:42.220 all of these guys can ever be transferred in my judgment 01:05:43.520 --> 01:05:46.660 so that that raises the issue what we can do with these people 01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:50.607 that that I I can just tell you not on my watch and all but you're 01:05:50.607 --> 01:05:53.810 not on my successors watch either is anybody can transfer these 01:05:53.810 --> 01:05:59.610 people so i'd I personally would prefer an ice said this openly 01:05:59.680 --> 01:06:04.500 that we find another place to do it on in united states and I 01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:07.900 know that that's that's something you don't support and another 01:06:07.970 --> 01:06:11.719 others do but I I do believe it would be better to put beats 01:06:11.756 --> 01:06:14.120 but i'd like to see have that done but for the next president 01:06:14.120 --> 01:06:18.960 comes along get this off his or her plate up if possible army 01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:25.350 backed by the underlying reale ali the reason we need a a detention 01:06:25.350 --> 01:06:29.910 facility and enduring detention facility for these people is 01:06:29.910 --> 01:06:33.218 that some of them are too dangerous and there is no way we're 01:06:33.220 --> 01:06:36.910 gonna even with an extensive consultations with another country 01:06:37.110 --> 01:06:40.500 and i'm giving a solid safeguards observer that we received that 01:06:40.530 --> 01:06:45.660 i'm gonna say it's safe to go to transfer them so we need a facility 01:06:45.660 --> 01:06:50.890 the keeps on up merely to me when I had to that of the sectoral 01:06:50.890 --> 01:06:54.000 milani and the new repression rumford can add lamented to other 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.987 observations from my visit to west to guantanamo bay one I learned 01:06:57.987 --> 01:07:01.370 that get no detainees know of their transfer before members of 01:07:01.370 --> 01:07:06.140 congress do a required by law to wed notify congress but I am 01:07:06.170 --> 01:07:09.880 told that they found of that to potential transfer before we 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:14.690 do um in ivf introduced legislation with a number of my colleagues 01:07:14.690 --> 01:07:18.790 to make certain that we not just our notified but have the ability 01:07:18.790 --> 01:07:23.120 to to prevent of that transfer and certainly the debate concerning 01:07:23.120 --> 01:07:26.892 issue that arose in my conversation while I get mo' is what happened 01:07:26.892 --> 01:07:30.530 to you what is happening I in circumstances today when a terrorist 01:07:30.530 --> 01:07:36.580 is captured in iran in syria are in afghanistan in iraq and i'm 01:07:36.580 --> 01:07:39.980 told that there are memorandums of agreement in some countries 01:07:40.540 --> 01:07:43.850 but not in syria we not headed the taney brought to get most 01:07:43.850 --> 01:07:49.177 of 2008 and now I have the real interest in knowing what's transpiring 01:07:49.180 --> 01:07:52.830 across the globe when we detained capture someone and where are 01:07:52.830 --> 01:07:55.840 they going to perhaps that's a conversation for a different setting 01:07:57.126 --> 01:08:01.710 I it is that we have a number of options um and so we think that 01:08:01.710 --> 01:08:04.967 through it basically we deal that on a case by case basis and 01:08:04.967 --> 01:08:09.330 i'd I would prefer that we do that in different setting general 01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.707 dunford of ike's crude you from something once a surge of very 01:08:12.707 --> 01:08:16.466 quickly first I was down after your vision and night for a much 01:08:16.466 --> 01:08:19.121 greater division in an intimate and women in down there were 01:08:19.162 --> 01:08:22.360 much to it and I think the one thing you saw down there despite 01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.260 that whatever conversations we have with god about guantanamo 01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:28.661 bay the one thing we all be proud of as the behavior of the men 01:08:28.661 --> 01:08:31.054 women down there the discipline the commitment that they have 01:08:31.054 --> 01:08:34.449 to mention I added most recently stonor and marchant and could 01:08:34.449 --> 01:08:37.730 have been more impressed but I want to show you that I have it 01:08:37.730 --> 01:08:40.610 out opportunity to talk about that she she was secretary carter 01:08:40.610 --> 01:08:43.820 and president on several occasions in the point I made is number 01:08:43.820 --> 01:08:46.777 one we have to have a place to detain people wanted the winnipeg 01:08:46.777 --> 01:08:50.000 the on a battlefield number two they have to be some system that 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.100 we have to prosecute those that need to be processed in number 01:08:53.100 --> 01:08:55.970 three those are found guilty to have to be long term incarceration 01:08:55.970 --> 01:08:58.900 available if through the legal system we determine if the breather 01:08:59.101 --> 01:09:02.002 and those three requirements whether or not we have a facility 01:09:02.025 --> 01:09:04.990 and are currently in guantanamo bay on united states all have 01:09:04.990 --> 01:09:07.770 to be adequately address I think that's the most important military 01:09:07.770 --> 01:09:11.140 agreed in a course on the mechanics of moving to noted stage 01:09:11.144 --> 01:09:14.035 the costing and all those kinds of things are mounted in lightweight 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.620 webley dishonored visit that he's he's personally engaged in 01:09:17.620 --> 01:09:21.391 the and supporting administration and the details of moving quantum 01:09:21.405 --> 01:09:24.970 operated in out of stage work to be done at the time of the senator 01:09:24.970 --> 01:09:28.466 has expired neither those who serve in guantanamo bay section 01:09:29.570 --> 01:09:34.839 the distinguished senator from montana is recognized at the kester 01:09:34.940 --> 01:09:37.760 thank you miss chairman thank you gentlemen for being here today 01:09:37.811 --> 01:09:41.990 on consecutive due the present recently announced another be 01:09:41.990 --> 01:09:45.040 increasing in american troops on the ground in syria and iraq 01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:50.750 by 250 and 200 respectively I had heard on the news said shortly 01:09:50.750 --> 01:09:53.660 after that that our allies are making the same panic commitment 01:09:53.660 --> 01:09:58.149 is that correct if it is it is there and it is it is the number 01:09:58.149 --> 01:10:01.622 of troops of our allies in the nato allies are sending him off 01:10:02.209 --> 01:10:06.949 they can be sent it slips is stan chale in iraq i'm the but the 01:10:07.170 --> 01:10:12.936 the I believe the murs around 20 500 sets of all hiv aids isn't 01:10:12.937 --> 01:10:16.750 just in iraq all they're doing more and I can't I don't speak 01:10:16.750 --> 01:10:20.140 for them because these are their style forces one day they and 01:10:20.140 --> 01:10:23.511 we try to be quiet about what we're doing now it's classic they're 01:10:23.511 --> 01:10:26.759 they're in their off their deck that but now it's a bit there 01:10:26.759 --> 01:10:30.450 in there also and a corps I have been urging and i'll be back 01:10:30.450 --> 01:10:34.140 in brussels next week meeting with the members of the coalition 01:10:34.140 --> 01:10:38.358 getting others to do more as we do more in the script is done 01:10:38.417 --> 01:10:41.025 and I appreciate that were about syria or the same candidate 01:10:41.036 --> 01:10:45.352 offered was a did on several aggregate their coalition partners 01:10:45.352 --> 01:10:50.037 at a somewhat different mix of parties in iraq and syria that 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.447 different relationships with those two countries and and and 01:10:52.447 --> 01:10:56.320 are they following this true these troops with additional resources 01:10:56.320 --> 01:11:01.000 as in the uss yeah a yes they are obviously we're always urging 01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.079 them to do more even as we're looking for opportunities to more 01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:07.299 cells in one one area where we talked to the gulf countries as 01:11:07.310 --> 01:11:11.830 in the gulf last week with the president was on the on us to 01:11:11.830 --> 01:11:15.996 build stabilization and reconstruction in a he's now recaptured 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.150 but it's a mess so somebody has to get the water going get the 01:11:19.150 --> 01:11:22.585 power going get the schools reopened and that kind of thing and 01:11:22.589 --> 01:11:25.664 an ansar were looking to some of our partners in the gulf in 01:11:25.664 --> 01:11:29.793 europe to to help us in that dimensions was an altered images 01:11:30.176 --> 01:11:33.091 and i'll apologize for mine asked questions at a time because 01:11:33.091 --> 01:11:35.380 I don't know they're gonna know the answer but it's huge duke 01:11:35.380 --> 01:11:37.902 of prussia are wiped out 01:11:39.510 --> 01:11:44.056 whatever short term subject user in syria and in iraq is for 01:11:44.087 --> 01:11:47.724 the government which is called millage to analyze the events 01:11:47.935 --> 01:11:55.464 in syria I ve that mediate objectives are to continue to allow 01:11:55.464 --> 01:12:00.770 what should doughty did dog namely to separate them make impossible 01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:05.399 or very difficult any travel or communication between mosul and 01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.830 rocca or convective lee severed that humor and half frog and 01:12:08.830 --> 01:12:12.520 secondly begin to gather forces and enable them that's where 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:17.020 the 12 o nine funding I mentioned earlier comes in to rocca because 01:12:17.020 --> 01:12:20.884 the objective in syria is to collapse isis control of rocket 01:12:21.290 --> 01:12:26.280 in iraq the next step after ramada in heat the thing we're focused 01:12:26.280 --> 01:12:34.190 on is by collecting and positioning before ramadan commences 01:12:34.390 --> 01:12:39.557 the forces for the envelopment of mosul are some of those riots 01:12:39.563 --> 01:12:42.810 a forces coming from the south some of them are two brigades 01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:46.860 of peshmerga are coming from the north we'd like to complete 01:12:46.860 --> 01:12:51.680 that envelopment before ar ramadi so those are two of the immediate 01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:55.570 job after operational objectives to achieve those two objectives 01:12:56.506 --> 01:13:01.239 how long I would like that that that that if the objective of 01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.840 positioning the force for the involvement of vermont gov of mosul 01:13:05.070 --> 01:13:08.590 before ramadan which is now has five five weeks oregon had not 01:13:08.590 --> 01:13:12.323 communication channels during a record last communication challenge 01:13:12.333 --> 01:13:17.400 area the doors but that we're it is is something that i've charged 01:13:17.430 --> 01:13:22.070 are cyber kong i'm with doing the first ever I can talk about 01:13:22.070 --> 01:13:26.460 that too much in here but you can imagine audio we don't think 01:13:26.490 --> 01:13:32.594 that dumped the body of a certain r rocca planning against americans 01:13:32.594 --> 01:13:36.760 and that the doctor lawyer and a camera last question about a 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.350 russian surveyor and the fact that we don't we we do not see 01:13:40.350 --> 01:13:44.189 life the same which is true do we have to our current russian 01:13:44.189 --> 01:13:48.040 united states have any objectives that are the shamans are a 01:13:48.040 --> 01:13:51.680 week we have objectives we have we have objectives in common 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.510 with what they said they wanted to do but are not actually what 01:13:55.510 --> 01:13:59.211 they did what they said they wanted to do was to fight I so I 01:13:59.211 --> 01:14:02.591 was fine with us have added they have every reason to fight I 01:14:02.591 --> 01:14:05.572 sunk as isis fighting that right right gotcha all and has for 01:14:05.572 --> 01:14:09.382 a long time but they came in instead and backed assad so that 01:14:09.382 --> 01:14:12.858 hasn't quite they said one thing and I did another story a prom 01:14:12.858 --> 01:14:18.360 with their behaviour by dial up at still I saw if they get on 01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:21.360 the rites side of this thing and that would be good one last 01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:24.700 question is usually is there any more to be interpreted into 01:14:24.700 --> 01:14:27.560 the flyovers that they talked about by the russian planes other 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.040 than just about screwing around tours are another messenger 01:14:31.780 --> 01:14:37.230 I can't speculate on that it it it it is unprofessional behavior 01:14:37.590 --> 01:14:41.180 and whether it's encouraged from the top weather was encouraged 01:14:41.180 --> 01:14:45.940 from higher up or not I didn't say but we do expect it to be 01:14:45.940 --> 01:14:49.790 discouraged from higher up from now on that's the reason why 01:14:49.790 --> 01:14:53.480 the chairman of the conversation she id and mp and the lake these 01:14:53.480 --> 01:14:57.640 pilots need to get the word hey knock it off this is unprofessional 01:14:57.904 --> 01:15:01.740 but this is dangerous this could lead somewhere an organ after 01:15:01.740 --> 01:15:06.830 we obviously disagree about things but we can't be done up accidentally 01:15:06.830 --> 01:15:10.389 stumbling into something that time of the senator has expired 01:15:11.144 --> 01:15:15.270 the this chair recognizes the distinguished senator from alaska 01:15:15.663 --> 01:15:20.510 there's makowsky thank you mister chairman secretary general 01:15:20.540 --> 01:15:23.090 welcome and thank you for your leadership in so many different 01:15:23.090 --> 01:15:28.130 ways i'm just listen to do the discussion this morning so much 01:15:28.130 --> 01:15:32.340 focus on on russia I would just remind my colleagues 57 miles 01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:38.750 57 miles between my state and russia so we're keeping an eye 01:15:38.750 --> 01:15:43.190 as I know you all are I wanna speak i'm just very quickly first 01:15:43.190 --> 01:15:46.780 of all about the f 30 five's we had begun announcement this spring 01:15:46.780 --> 01:15:50.840 thank you I appreciate the iaf announcement of their record of 01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:54.178 decision assigning the two squadrons of the f 30 fives there 01:15:54.178 --> 01:15:58.780 at isles in this is the first bed down in f 35 a bit down in 01:15:58.780 --> 01:16:01.641 the pacific and I think it's a very important step forward and 01:16:01.932 --> 01:16:07.200 in national security there is a there some discussion going on 01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:10.770 right now I got a monk the appropriations committee between the 01:16:10.770 --> 01:16:15.990 house and the senate um the the houses has suggested that perhaps 01:16:15.990 --> 01:16:22.561 not the a full full funding for the f 35 bed downs be out move 01:16:22.561 --> 01:16:27.570 forward in the time that has pretty been prescribed by the administration 01:16:27.570 --> 01:16:32.060 can you tell me in your words why it's important from a national 01:16:32.060 --> 01:16:37.750 security perspective that the air force field the f 35 days in 01:16:37.750 --> 01:16:43.820 the pacific in the 20 20 21 time frame and and why it makes sense 01:16:43.820 --> 01:16:47.430 that we fully fund his bed down now rather than a more phased 01:16:47.430 --> 01:16:51.020 approach that I can send the reason that we we don't put that 01:16:51.060 --> 01:16:55.550 in our budget is that the f 30 five's one of our up obviously 01:16:55.550 --> 01:17:00.210 are most capable advanced tactical fighter and b it's part of 01:17:00.210 --> 01:17:05.567 the asia pacific re balance which alaska as a part of by dint 01:17:05.567 --> 01:17:11.180 of of strategic location um and we made the decision several 01:17:11.180 --> 01:17:17.040 years ago to position our most modern and advanced equipment 01:17:17.450 --> 01:17:21.860 to the asia pacific summer increasing not only the numbers but 01:17:21.946 --> 01:17:27.176 they um by qualitative edge of our forces in the asia pacific 01:17:27.176 --> 01:17:31.650 nus and recognition of the vastness of the region but also that 01:17:31.650 --> 01:17:35.370 it is as I said earlier the most of the single part of the world 01:17:35.370 --> 01:17:38.450 much as the middle east is in the news all the time this is the 01:17:38.450 --> 01:17:41.390 part of a world that is most consequential for america's future 01:17:41.602 --> 01:17:44.670 is half of the amount of the world's population lives out there 01:17:44.900 --> 01:17:49.010 and half the world economy is out there cruciate then appreciate 01:17:49.010 --> 01:17:52.898 that the focus again on on the region that i'm talking about 01:17:52.902 --> 01:17:57.700 our eye with in the arctic and we had a conversation last year 01:17:57.700 --> 01:18:04.660 that I thought was was pretty consequential and it was regarding 01:18:04.660 --> 01:18:08.580 the arctic at that time you stated before this committee that 01:18:08.580 --> 01:18:11.120 the arctic is going to be a major area of importance for the 01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:14.473 united states strategically and economically in the future new 01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:17.630 went on to say I think it's fair to say that were late to the 01:18:17.630 --> 01:18:20.880 recognition of that and you close your remarks with the statement 01:18:20.910 --> 01:18:25.410 I think the plan that is more than aspirational is needed and 01:18:25.410 --> 01:18:28.560 so i'd be happy to work with you to that and I found the as words 01:18:28.591 --> 01:18:32.320 very encouraging I thought it was actually paradigm shifting 01:18:32.658 --> 01:18:36.180 but we haven't really seen much I was I was movin' through very 01:18:36.180 --> 01:18:39.460 quickly this morning as other words were asking to see if there 01:18:39.460 --> 01:18:43.840 wasn't some more clarity there on our new nation's defense needs 01:18:44.105 --> 01:18:48.216 are in the arctic a more so than there was a year ago but i'm 01:18:48.240 --> 01:18:52.021 not seeing a timeline for investments i'm not seeing this aspiration 01:18:52.021 --> 01:18:57.179 a plan so can you give me an update up when it comes to our defense 01:18:57.180 --> 01:19:00.461 needs are are we any better off than we were a year ago I can't 01:19:00.461 --> 01:19:04.799 no absolutely right greed by grew the ring and said then including 01:19:04.799 --> 01:19:09.510 that the need to do done this past year and so we are paying 01:19:09.510 --> 01:19:14.729 increasingly attacked attention and up to r one a color strategy 01:19:14.729 --> 01:19:17.581 toward the arctic there's no other way to say I might ask that 01:19:17.792 --> 01:19:20.609 that chairman to comment on that because I I think he did that 01:19:20.609 --> 01:19:26.470 was part of the us some of the exercising of that time he led 01:19:26.519 --> 01:19:31.840 a just a few weeks ago and china having first goal of the decision 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:35.290 to leave the brigade the element of brigade combat team alaska 01:19:35.590 --> 01:19:38.381 that I know you are very involved with will and they argue when 01:19:38.395 --> 01:19:41.580 his ordo snoring zone four and none of the secretary's decision 01:19:41.580 --> 01:19:45.130 to do that was it was it was in large part informed by our focus 01:19:45.130 --> 01:19:49.291 on both the pacific area and the arctic and also taylor investments 01:19:49.291 --> 01:19:52.504 in undersea or investments in space and cyberspace nonstandard 01:19:52.536 --> 01:19:55.932 things focused on the russian threat had to do with a replaced 01:19:55.952 --> 01:19:59.200 the red brush operated at and an increasingly as we think about 01:19:59.200 --> 01:20:03.104 russia strategically in a we were we were focused for some years 01:20:03.104 --> 01:20:06.070 with a further sale in europe but much broader now as we look 01:20:06.070 --> 01:20:09.290 at the rush to challenge in particular to pacific challenge it's 01:20:09.290 --> 01:20:11.950 an atlantic challenge but as you correctly point out this morning 01:20:12.020 --> 01:20:15.027 it's eight engine are challenges well but I will tell you that 01:20:15.027 --> 01:20:18.110 the in the capability enhancements that will make a nose fundamental 01:20:18.110 --> 01:20:21.366 areas with russia that have been spoken about today in articulate 01:20:21.366 --> 01:20:24.359 the president pledged very much would prove a posture in the 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:28.030 arctic in what the secretary is really losing to two as an increasing 01:20:28.060 --> 01:20:31.500 exercise program maternal breedlove has established in european 01:20:31.500 --> 01:20:34.410 command for the very purpose of the touring russian behavior 01:20:34.540 --> 01:20:37.908 ensuring that they understand it we can respond at any place 01:20:37.908 --> 01:20:40.910 we need to respond to and it's also similar message to our partners 01:20:40.910 --> 01:20:44.100 as well that there's a kid that they are assured of their response 01:20:44.570 --> 01:20:48.090 when I pretend that my time has expired I again thank you for 01:20:48.090 --> 01:20:51.870 the decision if the fourth airborne a combat brigade team but 01:20:51.870 --> 01:20:55.800 I will remind you that we are still it's it's basically in a 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.490 one one year pause so the real question then becomes how we deal 01:20:59.490 --> 01:21:02.250 with that after this next year so we look forward to for the 01:21:02.250 --> 01:21:04.369 conversation that use german food 01:21:05.770 --> 01:21:10.647 senator from new mexico mr hugh dawlish recognize thank you i'm 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.220 very much german cochrane and and secretary carter and chairman 01:21:14.220 --> 01:21:17.590 dumford thank you for your service good to have you here today 01:21:18.030 --> 01:21:22.520 I as you probably know of folks from my state have a proud history 01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:26.350 of military service and all you may not know this there's more 01:21:26.350 --> 01:21:30.110 deal de land in a mexico than any other state I think it's about 01:21:30.110 --> 01:21:34.200 three point five again lowered total by acres there are three 01:21:34.260 --> 01:21:38.000 point five million total acres each of new mexico's bases provide 01:21:38.390 --> 01:21:42.910 a unique capability of the supports are on national security 01:21:42.910 --> 01:21:46.845 from kirtland its future space capelli capable oldies hollomon 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:52.011 training future ally arpi a pilot's us special forces are trained 01:21:52.011 --> 01:21:56.600 in canon are engaging isis in iraq in syria in just this week 01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.310 the navy announced its building a rail gun facility at white 01:22:00.310 --> 01:22:05.970 sands missile range mr secretary that f y 17 budget emphasizes 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.853 defense innovation theo de calls these efforts the third officer 01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:14.840 and as you know this will require advanced testing and evaluation 01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:19.349 capabilities and i'm concerned that years of funding shortfalls 01:22:19.349 --> 01:22:24.320 at white sands missile range could degrade its capabilities this 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:29.160 could affect holloman two because it uses so wismar sayer space 01:22:29.458 --> 01:22:33.189 are facilities like white sands missile range adequately postured 01:22:33.189 --> 01:22:37.130 to test these future capabilities housed the eau de addressing 01:22:37.340 --> 01:22:42.570 these shortcomings as on first of all thank you and everyone 01:22:42.570 --> 01:22:46.994 else who has military installations in their states posted we 01:22:46.994 --> 01:22:50.510 have almost invariably wonderful relationship with the communities 01:22:51.013 --> 01:22:54.252 and the states that certainly true in your state grateful for 01:22:54.252 --> 01:22:58.360 it all and I am aware of how much you do indians the specific 01:22:58.360 --> 01:23:02.340 matter of wismar and and test ranges in general we do have a 01:23:02.340 --> 01:23:05.560 recognition which is which is reflected in the investments that 01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:08.930 go with that third offset another technology efforts we have 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:15.700 opted to uk but improve a number of our ranges at wismar being 01:23:15.700 --> 01:23:25.090 one of them up in the years of the where we were in my judgment 01:23:25.090 --> 01:23:28.800 not making adequate vestments and future technologies one of 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:32.690 the ways we did make those investments was in range infrastructure 01:23:32.690 --> 01:23:36.200 upgrades and so forth we know a little behind in that regard 01:23:36.230 --> 01:23:41.000 all the services know that and they're all investing in improving 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:45.521 range instrumentation facilities and so forth that's going on 01:23:45.521 --> 01:23:50.090 in wismar and elsewhere oren thank you ve on the army recently 01:23:50.090 --> 01:23:53.860 conducted a successful test of the integrated air and missile 01:23:53.860 --> 01:23:58.870 defense are battle command system at white sands I at the range 01:23:58.870 --> 01:24:03.010 there and as the united states re balances to the snes the pacific 01:24:03.370 --> 01:24:06.960 missile defense for our allies in south korea and japan and something 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:11.050 creasing importance how can we leverage the testing and facilities 01:24:11.050 --> 01:24:15.380 at white sands and holloman air force base to increase our coordination 01:24:15.380 --> 01:24:18.980 and training with both those countries on missile defense and 01:24:18.980 --> 01:24:22.980 combined air defence as well as search and rescue it it's important 01:24:22.980 --> 01:24:25.348 as integrated air and missile defense is one of those things 01:24:25.348 --> 01:24:30.990 it is inherently regional in some countries that have a common 01:24:30.990 --> 01:24:34.320 security threat it makes sense for them to work together that's 01:24:34.320 --> 01:24:38.226 why we work with the japanese and that the south koreans against 01:24:38.226 --> 01:24:41.032 the north korean missile threat which is we don't know from that 01:24:41.060 --> 01:24:45.830 news in recent weeks is a real one and I said I was in the gulf 01:24:45.830 --> 01:24:49.590 last week by the way and also there talking to the golf partners 01:24:49.790 --> 01:24:53.760 all of whom have individually procured from us air and missile 01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:56.680 defense systems were trying to get them to network that in the 01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:01.950 same way and the kind of testing we can do at wismar is the way 01:25:01.950 --> 01:25:06.000 that you integrate different kinds of sensors different kinds 01:25:06.030 --> 01:25:10.621 of missile defense system so that shapes their share and apportion 01:25:10.699 --> 01:25:16.300 the battle space by the smart way right thank you I just a final 01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:20.630 quick question is you know the uab national labs have made significant 01:25:20.630 --> 01:25:25.810 progress on the b 61 life extension the behind the is the young 01:25:26.181 --> 01:25:31.917 adult bee of 80 dash for the ana and I guess my question there 01:25:31.917 --> 01:25:34.972 is where you work to ensure that in an essay in the airforce 01:25:35.097 --> 01:25:38.950 coordinate appropriately to complete this on time and within 01:25:38.950 --> 01:25:43.228 budget it I am absolutely we we need to work and we have looked 01:25:43.232 --> 01:25:45.770 at with very close to the department of energy you have a great 01:25:45.770 --> 01:25:48.892 relationship with the leadership there excellent leadership in 01:25:48.906 --> 01:25:52.480 sector and every sector in energy out and we have the eight the 01:25:52.480 --> 01:25:56.840 young nuclear weapons council which is the way that for decades 01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:02.560 now dearly and an essay an idea the incentive worked together 01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:08.840 and we need the yog b 61 12 and we need the w 80 objects to keep 01:26:08.900 --> 01:26:11.935 a safe secure and reliable nuclear deterrent which we have to 01:26:11.935 --> 01:26:16.200 ap bank you both really appreciated thank the senator from new 01:26:16.200 --> 01:26:22.325 mexico on chair now recognizes the senator from kansas mr mario 01:26:22.485 --> 01:26:24.761 which chairman thank you very much will try to be brief in case 01:26:24.761 --> 01:26:28.040 of other centers have the following question of victory at let 01:26:28.040 --> 01:26:30.880 me raise a topic that you and I had a conversation about when 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:35.410 we first met cyber cyber mission a cyber security a recruiting 01:26:35.410 --> 01:26:38.950 is a significant component of our ability to meet our cyber needs 01:26:38.950 --> 01:26:42.760 i'm happy to report that 300 new ulm enlisted airman in kansas 01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:46.110 are ready to go to work in cyber security out there were to join 01:26:46.110 --> 01:26:49.770 the force unfortunate what we know is that security clearances 01:26:49.770 --> 01:26:54.530 are still being up held up by opium and in fact the indications 01:26:54.530 --> 01:26:58.800 are that of the backlog or is in the thousands are and will catch 01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:02.310 up to 20 25 and I would raise this topic for your consideration 01:27:02.310 --> 01:27:05.840 and ask you to help out find a solution of opium so we can get 01:27:05.870 --> 01:27:10.703 these are young men and women a cleared and understand the center 01:27:10.703 --> 01:27:14.230 were working on a thank you very much and then a general of let 01:27:14.230 --> 01:27:21.170 me talk about to add in for strength phylum i'm worried that 01:27:21.170 --> 01:27:25.541 we are downsizing protect leah are ground troops a military ensign 01:27:25.541 --> 01:27:31.478 and the army of beyond what we should be doing a high and a particularly 01:27:31.478 --> 01:27:36.430 in light of the recent deployments I wonder is so we're not putting 01:27:36.911 --> 01:27:40.340 I think I know the answer were putting added fiscal conditions 01:27:40.340 --> 01:27:46.061 or considerations ahead of operational ogm and dad defense br 01:27:46.164 --> 01:27:50.416 speculate like your your thoughts in regard to that mission sites 01:27:50.420 --> 01:27:53.690 to implement such really reflect much branched in a part of this 01:27:53.690 --> 01:27:57.330 is a service chief and former should right now to me even one 01:27:57.330 --> 01:28:00.320 priority here that we have today is to make sure whatever size 01:28:00.320 --> 01:28:04.549 force we have is capable and so this year although they were 01:28:04.610 --> 01:28:07.760 were challenges with the force structure should we have the minimum 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:11.110 for structuring as assertively to strategy the wirral was most 01:28:11.110 --> 01:28:14.570 concern was to make sure that the force that we had had the proper 01:28:14.570 --> 01:28:17.581 training at the proper equipment had the proper leadership and 01:28:17.583 --> 01:28:20.750 so when you when you have identified is a is a priority that 01:28:20.750 --> 01:28:23.650 we had to make a choice that we had to make the balance risk 01:28:23.940 --> 01:28:27.320 the risk of the sides in a fortune again it can be your strategy 01:28:27.579 --> 01:28:30.071 you'd always wanna have more deaths but I would only want to 01:28:30.071 --> 01:28:34.190 his leader have more depth meaning more for structure if I could 01:28:34.190 --> 01:28:37.194 be assured that the four structure would be properly supported 01:28:37.194 --> 01:28:40.190 and translated in the capability and I think many of our readiness 01:28:40.190 --> 01:28:43.322 challenges right now reflected even with the force structure 01:28:43.322 --> 01:28:46.470 that we have when I providing adequate training when a providing 01:28:46.471 --> 01:28:49.405 added equipment weapons and so forth in a modernization is falling 01:28:49.405 --> 01:28:52.700 behind silke trinity that balance center is really what was this 01:28:52.700 --> 01:28:56.320 year's been all about the general a mayan correct and in my thinking 01:28:56.320 --> 01:29:00.220 which is that in order to have adequate training and preparation 01:29:00.220 --> 01:29:03.730 thus the size of the fleet in strength has to be sufficient because 01:29:03.730 --> 01:29:07.630 of deployments you need to be training at the same time soldiers 01:29:07.630 --> 01:29:10.740 marines are being deployed therefore there is a relationship 01:29:10.740 --> 01:29:14.360 between readiness and and in strength not no question sir that's 01:29:14.360 --> 01:29:17.572 absolutely one of the variables to its own import verbal and 01:29:17.572 --> 01:29:21.650 or overall reddish equation I think you both english german 01:29:23.120 --> 01:29:27.892 I think the senator in thank all senators for their protest patient 01:29:27.892 --> 01:29:32.600 in hearings and you are distinguished panel of witnesses we wanna 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:37.640 thank you for your continued assistance to the committee and 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:41.470 your protests a patient in this hearing today grateful for your 01:29:41.470 --> 01:29:46.100 service and we look forward to a continuing dialogue throughout 01:29:46.100 --> 01:29:52.640 the fiscal year 27teen in the appropriations process senators 01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:56.740 mason met additional written questions and we would appreciate 01:29:56.740 --> 01:30:01.114 your responding to them in a reasonable time for a record till 01:30:01.114 --> 01:30:03.330 then the subcommittee of stand in recess.