WEBVTT 00:00.334 --> 00:03.930 to talk about some examples of how are approaching the regional 00:03.930 --> 00:08.480 and in our national security challenges in africa over in east 00:08.480 --> 00:12.630 africa of course the big threat is the al shabaab inside somalia 00:13.002 --> 00:16.540 I we work with the five other troop contributing countries as 00:16.540 --> 00:20.540 well as the small developing somali national army out to continue 00:20.540 --> 00:25.161 to support the somali current government and not help them provide 00:25.161 --> 00:30.500 stability in other regions in the north and the north africa 00:30.702 --> 00:35.152 though the bigger threat there revolved around the libya and 00:35.152 --> 00:39.990 the yellow and the growing threat of the isis in the region and 00:39.990 --> 00:44.362 we'll work with the many many partners there too well to all 00:44.638 --> 00:47.970 hope that the situation out from the european union who has a 00:47.970 --> 00:51.800 strong mission in the mediterranean sea to mitigate the challenges 00:51.800 --> 00:56.609 of migration of to tunisia or were contained a built in significant 00:56.609 --> 01:01.350 job partner capacity as well as a novel nazaire and chad who 01:01.350 --> 01:05.785 also have a challenging borders in the area in the area all in 01:05.785 --> 01:11.550 the world that to continue so if you look from libya down to 01:11.550 --> 01:14.500 the southwest over to northern mali which is a challenge of the 01:14.725 --> 01:17.697 french are leading that effort there we support the french show 01:18.033 --> 01:21.455 from of their their leadership opinions remain in task force 01:21.464 --> 01:26.610 14 across cell from chad tunisia and all over to mali where they're 01:26.955 --> 01:32.170 they are leading the efforts there and then down to know in west 01:32.170 --> 01:37.190 africa notably the challenges built to a roundup of boca romp 01:37.512 --> 01:42.350 in the threat in the north east line jury which also overlaps 01:42.350 --> 01:46.980 into new share of chad and a camera and we're workin' out there 01:46.980 --> 01:51.340 with all those partners sought to us to help them improve their 01:51.340 --> 01:55.490 capacity to defeat the book around although in some significant 01:55.520 --> 01:58.720 intelligence sharing and working with a multinational task force 01:58.720 --> 02:02.940 who is leading that thought that f it there and no not with that 02:02.940 --> 02:04.290 law will take your questions 02:05.671 --> 02:10.020 hi general ahmed on libya what is your assessment right now of 02:10.020 --> 02:15.130 the number of islamic state fighters are in libya how much is 02:15.130 --> 02:18.660 that growing to give us some perspective on how the threat is 02:18.660 --> 02:23.910 changing there from from isis and the president ended during 02:23.910 --> 02:27.630 his meetings with stoltenberg raised the possibility that perhaps 02:27.630 --> 02:31.570 nato might be able help in the icelandic state fight there how 02:31.570 --> 02:35.660 do you see this going forward is the u s hampered in the billy 02:35.660 --> 02:38.800 take strikes there now because of the government play offs or 02:38.800 --> 02:44.760 is it a lack of intel the world's first of all well known in 02:44.760 --> 02:49.870 libya leader us and told us a lot the community of said it's 02:49.870 --> 02:55.603 around 46000 of his art of probably about doubled in lasta 12 02:55.603 --> 03:00.950 to 18 months based on what their assessments were last year oem 03:01.350 --> 03:09.900 then via now first to the huge effort to generally be by all 03:09.900 --> 03:13.706 the african partners has been has been significant lead made 03:13.706 --> 03:17.340 mainly by tunisia who has done a tremendous job of of build their 03:17.340 --> 03:20.320 capacity to work in the challenges across though their border 03:21.160 --> 03:25.651 as well as both new jerry who has a heavy along to refer to just 03:25.751 --> 03:29.800 to disrupt the euro the lines of communication in northern niger 03:29.829 --> 03:34.801 non integer or as well as a child who has sought his word about 03:35.204 --> 03:42.090 through townsend in southern libya um and then the fuel out ask 03:42.090 --> 03:46.170 about tornado out there looking at what they can do based on 03:46.170 --> 03:50.900 the discussions to you mentioned if you remember back a couple 03:50.900 --> 03:54.720 years ago and nato has the signed up in that situation to help 03:54.720 --> 03:58.510 with some of the capacity building in the institution in the 03:58.510 --> 04:04.270 strategic planning of forum for libya all honda u or other real 04:04.390 --> 04:08.880 question about to what are we hampered by the feudal right right 04:08.880 --> 04:14.270 now just like in many places so we are a continuing to go after 04:14.270 --> 04:18.439 targets that proposal you're an imminent threat to us interests 04:18.440 --> 04:22.327 and personnel and that was shown in the case of both I been a 04:22.327 --> 04:27.201 beale who was the leader of isis as well as south via the us 04:27.248 --> 04:31.108 government no thought in some brothel recently and that's with 04:31.109 --> 04:33.060 a type of torture we continue to do that 04:34.390 --> 04:38.380 just as all fallen guardian alan simpson number has doubled even 04:38.380 --> 04:44.710 not able to see targets any it and is it a lack of ions are or 04:45.080 --> 04:48.220 because we understand there's training camps and other gatherings 04:48.590 --> 04:53.509 in libya what what is one of the hurdles that you're seeing again 04:53.510 --> 04:56.590 the polls right now is to go after the continuum of threats to 04:56.590 --> 05:01.083 us personnel nitrous or continue to do that on the 05:03.050 --> 05:07.930 government a national court s it you know continues to consolidate 05:07.930 --> 05:13.190 power will continue to develop situation all in our efforts in 05:13.190 --> 05:17.700 accordance with of their development as well as their masts mike 05:18.647 --> 05:24.240 smith anywhere you see awkwardly with nbc news out there are 05:24.240 --> 05:26.940 you seeing the most are these fighters coming from into libya 05:26.940 --> 05:29.319 and where there were some reports that they were there was of 05:29.335 --> 05:33.426 a stronghold insert it is that is that the keys where the glycol 05:33.835 --> 05:39.230 less significant for developing a means of capital it is in libya 05:39.230 --> 05:42.658 where there they are family that I have a question on non astronaut 05:43.766 --> 05:48.630 I thank you all and all for love the threat of isis in libya 05:49.040 --> 05:53.300 they're their largest and biggest strongpoint isn't around sirte 05:53.470 --> 05:57.680 itself but the they also have a presence on the east in bengazi 05:57.680 --> 06:01.160 and garnet as well as over and some broth in the west as far 06:01.160 --> 06:05.190 as some you know where the fighters are coming from iowa as you 06:05.190 --> 06:09.539 know of the foreign fighter flow goes back and forth across in 06:09.760 --> 06:13.900 north africa not only internal to north africa which it generates 06:13.900 --> 06:16.770 a lot of the foreign fighters go across to syria to rock but 06:16.770 --> 06:20.657 also some have come back and then there's a the other phenomena 06:20.657 --> 06:25.060 in libya which is some that have just the oh you know move the 06:25.061 --> 06:28.715 ovary and pledged allegiance to isis who were over their pocket 06:30.164 --> 06:34.760 three restricts the past week or 10 days in these against al 06:34.760 --> 06:38.720 shabaab specifically I want her to live a hundred 50 fighters 06:38.950 --> 06:43.000 has there been some change in the last several weeks is there 06:43.000 --> 06:44.675 some uptake is there some 06:46.066 --> 06:49.707 imminent attack that they had it that the us was aware of ice 06:49.723 --> 06:52.370 just what what has changed in last he makes a vicious targets 06:52.370 --> 06:53.220 of. Opportunity 06:54.851 --> 06:59.635 desert regional chain found there is a window into the. Streets 07:03.379 --> 07:08.840 yes a bit now al shabaab over the last or several months have 07:08.840 --> 07:13.630 evolved their tactics and their mode of operation and not in 07:13.630 --> 07:18.290 somalia and what they have the gun is the area the pattern has 07:18.290 --> 07:22.890 been that they gather an on train a significant number of people 07:23.450 --> 07:27.460 and then they are dispersing an attack and focus all that energy 07:27.460 --> 07:30.700 on one of the four operation bases of the troop contributing 07:30.700 --> 07:36.190 countries om that has a had a negative impact on the troop contributors 07:36.190 --> 07:39.410 because they have lost significant people in multiple types of 07:39.420 --> 07:44.100 these these attacks and the soldotna one that to your mention 07:44.100 --> 07:49.941 was a mayor of defensive fires to protect all their work 07:51.420 --> 07:53.905 we weren't sure exactly which one they were going to all that 07:53.905 --> 07:58.250 we had multiple you know different intel stream sparta of there 07:58.250 --> 08:02.620 were 10 outpost within a couple hours of that site and they were 08:02.800 --> 08:06.640 getting ready to do that silly not took a defensible fires to 08:06.640 --> 08:10.869 prevent that of the other ones one of them was a r 08:12.316 --> 08:15.110 one was a strike unless two weeks against a high value target 08:15.110 --> 08:18.240 the same type that we've been doing for many years there and 08:18.240 --> 08:21.892 then there have been a couple of the wrong ones were they are 08:21.892 --> 08:27.490 farmers were often to be unknown defensive wall of techniques 08:27.490 --> 08:33.200 to prevent total casualties to the partner's or j mccue 08:34.865 --> 08:39.051 gupta will be out for a minute just to drill down a little bit 08:39.051 --> 08:43.980 to you believe that these foreign fighters and the fighters in 08:43.980 --> 08:50.630 libya are actually bomb that their goal is to attack in the west 08:50.630 --> 08:54.580 whether it's europe or the united states to to plot and plan 08:54.724 --> 08:59.241 train for external attacks do you think that's their goal yet 08:59.340 --> 09:04.770 saw that scriabin their aspirations of all the time and they 09:04.820 --> 09:09.790 are continuing with the same bomb threats that the police's main 09:09.790 --> 09:14.549 is making yes so what I don't understand if you if you believe 09:15.164 --> 09:19.451 it believes that that is the goal of doubling of fighters in 09:19.451 --> 09:23.220 libya where the fighters in libya I guess the question is why 09:23.220 --> 09:28.950 only two strikes sensually against them why was heard there their 09:28.950 --> 09:34.945 level of what they're doing so you know what should go beyond 09:35.290 --> 09:38.930 the strikes we continue do against or ones who have continuum 09:38.930 --> 09:42.500 an eminent threat and they're not as far along in there you know 09:42.530 --> 09:47.980 ability to do that as many other places i'm sorry I think I apologize 09:47.980 --> 09:52.659 I really don't understand from considerable were going after 09:52.952 --> 09:57.680 and continue to go after this one of the in imminent threats 09:57.680 --> 10:02.030 to us personnel and facilities not the intent to do that the 10:02.030 --> 10:06.810 ones that the bunker is danced to essentially circuit but when 10:06.810 --> 10:11.550 you look it would be a workout and the isis presence in libya 10:12.680 --> 10:15.531 what is your top concern about their. Presence 10:17.680 --> 10:23.730 the top concern about their presence is really via of the challenge 10:23.730 --> 10:28.940 it presents for any movement forward for the government a national 10:28.940 --> 10:34.650 court so that they can reduce the chaos there at that chaos contributes 10:34.650 --> 10:41.010 a two d migration issues while it continues to go to some of 10:41.010 --> 10:46.810 the threats the extant two of libya and of threats external to 10:46.810 --> 10:49.640 libya as soon the situation with tunisia 10:51.527 --> 10:56.049 yes ma'am if you read washington post conversions on libya have 10:56.415 --> 11:02.250 how confident are you that either forces with him in the united 11:02.250 --> 11:05.947 states and its partners might work or might support in the future 11:05.951 --> 11:09.180 the militia forces the remnants of the libyan national army how 11:09.180 --> 11:12.120 confident are you that they can set aside the differences that 11:12.120 --> 11:17.280 they've had since 20 live and specialist 24teen to conduct the 11:17.280 --> 11:21.715 ground operations needed not just to sort of clear isis out of 11:21.715 --> 11:25.958 served by and to impose order throughout the country after that 11:25.958 --> 11:29.399 of livia and the second question if i'm the guardian i'm sure 11:29.399 --> 11:32.420 bob there were also a final report is questioned there were some 11:32.420 --> 11:35.720 reports that there was an airstrike last night i'm against should 11:35.720 --> 11:39.383 not know it it's in a place called julie can you comment on the 11:40.052 --> 11:44.989 courier on the year the first one you know that that's a is really 11:45.181 --> 11:50.240 a bomb the second major challenge of the government a national 11:50.240 --> 11:56.620 court us they work with the militias in how strong their you 11:56.632 --> 12:01.170 know allegiance to the jna is gonna be out there are more and 12:01.170 --> 12:08.410 more people in libya there are focusing their efforts against 12:08.410 --> 12:10.947 isis and against each other and that's part of the challenge 12:10.947 --> 12:15.230 is you know because of the other conflicts beyond between militias 12:15.530 --> 12:18.331 and I think that the you know because it's all about the year 12:18.331 --> 12:22.458 of the power and influence it will really depend how that government 12:22.467 --> 12:26.010 national core develops and brings those people inside to be part 12:26.010 --> 12:32.550 of a future as far as to their ability to oz to actually conduct 12:32.550 --> 12:35.220 operations and activities you know they're over there it's a 12:35.220 --> 12:38.480 wide range of activity summum are really good summum or you know 12:38.480 --> 12:42.857 just fair relatively speaking for the euro the libyan militias 12:42.857 --> 12:47.280 in the national army of blood doth again it will really determine 12:47.451 --> 12:52.510 be determined by how well an effect of those militia's support 12:52.510 --> 12:56.169 the jna that really makes a difference in the end a member on 12:56.169 --> 13:00.790 the shabaab strike on the shabaab again those those of the ones 13:00.790 --> 13:04.840 you talked about were in defensive fires to protect the people 13:04.840 --> 13:07.161 that were working with the guy like you 13:08.890 --> 13:13.040 general terry donahue bbc news I have a couple questions about 13:13.510 --> 13:17.860 the triple girls tonight cheerio approaching the second anniversary 13:17.860 --> 13:24.970 of the kidnapped 276 of them taken two years ago title outcry 13:24.970 --> 13:28.390 across the world but it promises to do as much as possible to 13:28.390 --> 13:32.468 find them can you tell us what the u s military has done what 13:32.469 --> 13:36.230 it plans to do what the sort of what's hampering you finding 13:36.310 --> 13:41.110 and helping to release these girls going like you first are the 13:41.780 --> 13:47.440 om schumacher also were taken as you know are almost or two years 13:47.440 --> 13:51.543 ago were a taken by the yellow book around the old 10 to move 13:51.543 --> 13:56.860 to some very very isolated places in the dark a bocal rama maintain 13:56.864 --> 14:02.368 its earlier secure site are right away dia the us thought not 14:02.410 --> 14:05.929 just the military but then to our intelligence community can 14:05.959 --> 14:10.290 not share information or with all the nigerian military as well 14:10.290 --> 14:14.600 as other militaries were they were um had anything to do with 14:14.600 --> 14:19.470 anything near the borders of all basically i'd tried then and 14:19.470 --> 14:24.930 cameroon are overlaps to beat him just under two years with the 14:24.960 --> 14:28.740 efforts of the multinational joint task force in the four nations 14:28.990 --> 14:32.090 that have involved and been involved in other efforts have all 14:32.090 --> 14:37.660 reduced the area that are all vocal raw maintains control over 14:37.660 --> 14:42.000 and has opened up on the major lines of communication and now 14:42.000 --> 14:46.670 the book rome operates out of the somme terrain it's pretty tough 14:46.670 --> 14:51.120 to get out and get to hell all the international community as 14:51.120 --> 14:55.524 well as some of our efforts to continue to a developed intelligent 14:55.525 --> 15:00.500 so hard to help to get to know get the girls back and to also 15:00.500 --> 15:04.609 release not only girls but also a huge number of a p paul that 15:04.609 --> 15:09.261 they have kidnapped and are holding against their will and the 15:09.333 --> 15:14.110 video the nigerian military force the cameroon military and in 15:14.110 --> 15:18.045 the charity have gained a lot of the freedom for many of those 15:18.045 --> 15:19.590 are over over time 15:21.060 --> 15:24.860 finally while some of them have been found in different things 15:24.860 --> 15:28.710 you know it's not uh an exact science in there not only on place 15:29.165 --> 15:32.580 solos many of the likes of many of the people who've been detained 15:32.580 --> 15:35.750 against world include some of the schumachers have been have 15:35.750 --> 15:36.320 been recovered 15:37.901 --> 15:42.781 history at record labels lovely girl actually take another stab 15:42.903 --> 15:44.100 this unity government 15:45.839 --> 15:49.740 issue I think you know a lot of his room at the hearing folks 15:49.740 --> 15:53.990 say you know as soon as this is established handsets and way 15:54.290 --> 15:59.270 like the light turns on and no allies can go and you ask them 15:59.270 --> 16:02.998 to get more involved in the new non badge is what if you could 16:02.998 --> 16:07.160 help make us a louis meyer unlike what what changes may think 16:07.160 --> 16:10.365 we understand the idea of a viable partner on the ground what 16:10.688 --> 16:15.580 what kind of changes at in terms of what the us and its allies 16:15.580 --> 16:19.720 would be able to do post unity government that you can do in 16:19.720 --> 16:25.520 some war fashion now war really depends what the unique cover 16:25.520 --> 16:30.490 mitt you know once the international community to do so I think 16:30.490 --> 16:34.060 that are you know we said there is because the government is 16:34.060 --> 16:38.611 just getting its feet under itself there and that yes you can 16:38.611 --> 16:43.980 see even today one of the aisle you know the former political 16:43.980 --> 16:47.200 leaders is not now pledging allegiance or they were yesterday 16:47.200 --> 16:50.730 so this gonna take some time for them to our you know move this 16:50.730 --> 16:54.310 thing forward in both the united nations to the international 16:54.310 --> 16:58.211 community as well as on many of the libyan people you know we're 16:58.211 --> 17:02.370 starting to move toward to support this but it's gonna be driven 17:02.370 --> 17:06.540 by of their leadership and what they really want the international 17:06.540 --> 17:10.592 community of there are a lot of planning efforts going on with 17:10.592 --> 17:14.361 the look at the what's happening in italy with the libyan international 17:14.361 --> 17:18.630 assistant to assistant mission to uk to help advise and assist 17:18.630 --> 17:23.350 the libyan forces are stay home you know or integrated in to 17:23.350 --> 17:27.930 a new no cohesive libby libby's security forces so a lot of plans 17:27.930 --> 17:30.290 out their banquets grilling and be driven on how that 17:31.680 --> 17:34.720 government announced record bolsover tunnel where they really 17:34.720 --> 17:38.860 need of the support for use at their party question is what's 17:38.860 --> 17:43.850 your assessment of the risk of allies acting more unilaterally 17:43.850 --> 17:47.070 inside libya without a unity government and what's the risk of 17:47.070 --> 17:51.357 complaining this waiting game I think the I think the allies 17:51.650 --> 17:55.310 you know again we'll just like us will do it based on the threats 17:55.350 --> 17:58.848 to themselves to conduct in that threat to themselves and that's 17:58.849 --> 18:03.100 all we're all I think that so they would go do that and that 18:03.100 --> 18:07.330 would be really it until you know some changes in the government 18:07.330 --> 18:09.094 and that piece of crap 18:11.520 --> 18:14.776 ultraviolet and or children of military time somewhat like asking 18:14.783 --> 18:19.480 for men about all of the chinese military and ask you what is 18:19.480 --> 18:23.851 your take on the chinese intent from for building some kind of 18:23.851 --> 18:26.320 a naval facility in djibouti and 18:27.740 --> 18:31.040 more broadly how would how much chinese military activity are 18:31.040 --> 18:35.430 you seeing across africa and to what extent is that affecting 18:35.750 --> 18:41.570 your operations of the chinese are activity throughout to africa 18:41.570 --> 18:45.100 for the military has been all inside the united nations missions 18:45.590 --> 18:48.992 as some part of the peacekeepers there to it's not that does 18:49.350 --> 18:54.600 not that big a number of so they have well you know no real real 18:54.680 --> 18:58.191 impact on you know any of the activities that we are going on 18:58.191 --> 19:03.306 the african continent are india and the base in nara djibouti 19:03.340 --> 19:06.660 that they are all starting to help to build you know we'd just 19:06.660 --> 19:10.799 like girl or the other international countries expect them just 19:10.799 --> 19:14.110 like everybody expects us to live in the records with international 19:14.110 --> 19:18.470 norms and standards and noah and there'll be no wealth but no 19:18.470 --> 19:22.308 impact on our freedom to conduct of activities with his architect 19:22.626 --> 19:24.950 what do you think that they're building that what is they're 19:25.651 --> 19:29.864 all they were for a long time her paddle area a presence alto 19:29.960 --> 19:33.110 in the indian ocean they have helped with the with the whole 19:33.110 --> 19:37.070 international community to reduce the area of the piracy off 19:37.070 --> 19:40.784 somalia and they've done that coordination with the not only 19:40.784 --> 19:44.807 the u s but also the other international nations and also there 19:44.940 --> 19:49.760 you know a building of logistics base and support structure to 19:49.760 --> 19:52.110 help those efforts out cuz it's a long way from. Home 19:55.045 --> 19:59.585 early reviews of the big summer trip to israel today on going 19:59.585 --> 20:02.801 back to somalia defensive fires that you referenced the are these 20:02.801 --> 20:05.920 are new things that we just find hearing about for the first 20:05.920 --> 20:09.903 time in also is a definitely a broader in the sense of defensive 20:09.909 --> 20:14.650 fires because he's talked about these before our partners on 20:14.650 --> 20:17.790 the ground on is no longer that there's a threat to american 20:17.790 --> 20:22.871 forces that requires that a threat to both our partners in our 20:22.871 --> 20:26.730 selves and thing and there's been no change or broadening of 20:26.730 --> 20:32.582 anything uh but to all the the two things I think that have fallen 20:33.522 --> 20:38.429 I changed over time was the involving tactics over al shabaab 20:38.435 --> 20:43.530 one and the second thing is that as the troop contributing countries 20:43.960 --> 20:47.237 and the somali national army develops and builds more capacity 20:47.255 --> 20:51.040 grows they're going be more active there I think that's something 20:51.040 --> 20:55.549 that's driven that loki is also driven our increase that produce 20:55.549 --> 20:59.130 a patient such as helicopter transport to offer these somali 20:59.130 --> 21:03.255 forces yes because now they have the capacity to some success 21:04.608 --> 21:07.810 and one of the questions for upcoming hami us personnel are actually 21:07.810 --> 21:11.600 somalia and how would you characterize what their roles are there 21:11.600 --> 21:15.446 are and will give the exact numbers because it looks which are 21:15.447 --> 21:16.750 there but it's you know 21:18.280 --> 21:23.770 the what we are doing is providing a live rising in assisting 21:24.360 --> 21:28.900 to selected for his actions in the both the troop contributing 21:28.900 --> 21:33.731 countries and the us among national cricket league 21:35.081 --> 21:38.660 through a village in los angeles times on are there any forces 21:38.660 --> 21:42.230 on the ground inside libya that are stopping the growth of isis 21:42.570 --> 21:48.440 and if if there isn't some does that effectively doubled over 21:48.440 --> 21:52.110 less than 12 18 months as they run the risk of the same situation 21:52.110 --> 21:54.637 that we saw in syria for instance where they can sweep out in 21:54.651 --> 21:56.490 and start not taking land elsewhere 21:57.970 --> 21:58.760 the earldom 22:00.200 --> 22:05.800 the long lived the libyans themselves both of the remnants of 22:05.800 --> 22:09.029 the living therefore not that the militias they got you know 22:10.664 --> 22:15.510 significantly significant numbers of groups of then yes they 22:15.510 --> 22:20.107 are stopping isis from growing in trying to do that the best 22:20.107 --> 22:24.045 that they can they have had some success over in the east in 22:24.045 --> 22:29.805 the darna in bengazi while they have the challenge them in the 22:29.807 --> 22:35.230 search and all have not been as successful and know they have 22:35.230 --> 22:38.750 been also tell jim it's a brothel and you know been a little 22:38.750 --> 22:42.410 but successful soviet there's forces on the ground that are arguing 22:42.410 --> 22:46.730 that mainly in a libyan leader former libyan national army or 22:46.941 --> 22:52.260 a libyan militias and all in there there continued to add the 22:54.000 --> 22:58.930 challenge that they have is that in addition to doing that sometimes 22:58.930 --> 23:02.660 they fight amongst themselves and based on feudal power and feudal 23:02.782 --> 23:06.427 past and history and everything else so that's why the year of 23:06.429 --> 23:10.030 the challenge of the governor's record as to bring them together 23:10.370 --> 23:13.970 to well you know one for the future of libya but also to to work 23:14.440 --> 23:18.450 to get the get rid of isis situation that you're describing sounds 23:18.450 --> 23:23.379 an awful like what was in spruce lake still is in syria when 23:23.390 --> 23:26.872 you have these groups fighting against one another doesn't that 23:26.872 --> 23:31.480 offered him the breeding ground for for isis to do the exact 23:31.480 --> 23:37.190 same thing and can build up and sweep out and in gay or I think 23:37.190 --> 23:43.500 it significantly harder for isis to do that inside of libya because 23:43.500 --> 23:44.460 of the 23:46.060 --> 23:47.563 they don't have the euro 23:48.949 --> 23:54.810 the home grown people that know as much about libya like they 23:54.810 --> 23:59.230 did in iraq and syria so it's different conditions the libyan 23:59.230 --> 24:03.740 people are also you know different in that the the way they treat 24:03.740 --> 24:08.639 and respond to foreigners us all that has a thousand impact so 24:08.639 --> 24:13.930 the the majority under the libyan no malicious now first of all 24:13.930 --> 24:17.351 they can they can fight the good fight for a long time and too 24:17.351 --> 24:21.283 they don't like you know external influences like that there's 24:21.290 --> 24:23.760 I think it's a significant different conditions 24:25.401 --> 24:31.350 if the number of isis fighters doubled again over the next 12 24:31.350 --> 24:37.900 months would be with the us be willing to act as a decision for 24:37.900 --> 24:40.020 the national command authority and. Leadership 24:43.360 --> 24:46.730 do you anticipate given at once that the national government 24:46.730 --> 24:51.310 is set up in libya do you anticipate the u s working in concert 24:51.310 --> 24:55.390 with them or at their invitation conducting airstrikes against 24:55.390 --> 24:58.780 isis in libya do you do you do you expect that that is a real 24:58.780 --> 25:02.920 possibility in the future the u u s's you know I said bill support 25:02.920 --> 25:06.320 the government and national cord as they move forward here and 25:06.320 --> 25:10.170 half that again that will be determined between the governor 25:10.170 --> 25:14.059 ashbel chord in the you know the um the international community 25:14.059 --> 25:18.990 and then how that moves forward so um yummy with just will just 25:18.990 --> 25:23.300 have to say but yes that's a possibility as are many other things 25:23.300 --> 25:26.670 because I said is you look at the don't know multiple efforts 25:26.670 --> 25:30.510 whether it's a hard trying to hard to get after the isis problem 25:30.510 --> 25:34.040 whether it's trying to love to build all libyan national army 25:34.040 --> 25:37.840 to bring together though the militias in in an around tripoli 25:37.840 --> 25:40.670 to you know help support this government I mean there's a wide 25:40.670 --> 25:44.500 range of things that could be done and I said this to the situation 25:44.500 --> 25:48.120 and you can see it like said this morning in that you know some 25:48.120 --> 25:51.163 guys were part of a solution some guys not and they changed it 25:51.204 --> 25:54.180 on the last two days or so that were described to monitor that 25:54.180 --> 25:59.470 very carefully watch look and is part of the list the sort of 25:59.470 --> 26:04.930 streams of them how concerned are you as you watch this that 26:05.050 --> 26:08.533 this these stumbles with setting up the unity government are 26:08.545 --> 26:12.810 going to really leave the door open for isis to coalesce I am 26:13.330 --> 26:17.199 is isa jested that the libyans don't like having them there but 26:19.280 --> 26:23.550 is that enough and are you worried that you do not have the capacity 26:23.550 --> 26:27.640 or the ability yet to take actions you want to take because of 26:27.640 --> 26:29.270 the lack of a government. Partnering 26:32.915 --> 26:33.809 d. L 26:37.970 --> 26:44.413 the effort right now continues to us to remain on the imminent 26:44.420 --> 26:49.240 threats to us personnel and facilities we have all the authorities 26:49.240 --> 26:51.690 and resources we need to continue to do that 26:53.530 --> 26:58.880 and we will continue to do that and that's the number one concern 26:59.210 --> 27:07.191 for us right now that's the the question I think what you're 27:07.191 --> 27:11.930 asking is really is when that becomes overwhelming which it is 27:11.930 --> 27:16.040 not right then what you do and again that will have to be a policy 27:16.040 --> 27:19.920 decision if it gets that point but it's it's a it's gonna be 27:19.920 --> 27:23.984 a challenge for them to get to that point because of the era 27:24.350 --> 27:28.009 the libyan population people of malicious corralled shoulder 27:28.012 --> 27:31.160 stock to see how that develops as a possible use it it it it 27:31.160 --> 27:34.980 is fucked up but right now mom we're not i'm not concerned about 27:35.396 --> 27:39.300 because of it happening again because by then would eat i'm not 27:39.300 --> 27:43.330 too late but by then it's a bigger fight this meant that it could 27:43.330 --> 27:46.830 be a bigger fight no thing but again we'll we'll watch out very 27:46.830 --> 27:50.369 carefully and then taken action as we see the stretched. About 27:52.598 --> 27:56.640 on their own based on the idea that the libyan population is 27:56.640 --> 28:00.530 averse to foreign elements how much of a barrier with that before 28:00.840 --> 28:04.320 you national community in assisting them in the on the ground 28:04.480 --> 28:09.170 right now is it so I had absolutely no that's so that's the cuts 28:09.170 --> 28:13.009 the situation that any if any mp would find themselves and and 28:13.009 --> 28:17.210 everything so again we will all will just have to see how this 28:17.210 --> 28:20.790 commercial cord develops and grows as we move forward and then 28:20.790 --> 28:24.540 what they all want what they think is in their best interests 28:24.850 --> 28:30.420 and and how much they're willing to him to ask or you don't need 28:30.421 --> 28:34.480 internationally they like everybody you know what to do with 28:34.480 --> 28:39.930 themselves of eno had to protect their their sovereign people 28:39.934 --> 28:43.250 and just like nobody else revealed in bars that they need help 28:43.501 --> 28:45.889 so where that all comes out everything like said would reset 28:45.890 --> 28:51.895 the watch over carefully situation will look at some of the military 28:51.895 --> 28:57.490 that come the the greens a crisis response force for africa has 28:57.490 --> 29:02.652 its employment or placement unaffected by them involving brent 29:02.652 --> 29:03.680 libya elsewhere 29:05.021 --> 29:10.910 i'll pull off first of all at how they you know get employed 29:10.910 --> 29:13.670 for you know multiple reasons as an example they were huge part 29:13.670 --> 29:17.188 of the reinforcement of the libyan embassy before we relocated 29:17.222 --> 29:22.495 that of they also are provided or reaction forces across middle 29:22.523 --> 29:27.520 north and west africa era as well as so you know our support 29:27.520 --> 29:31.550 to our quick reaction forces as well as some personal recovery 29:31.550 --> 29:34.664 so they you know there are that they do a lot of things that 29:34.665 --> 29:37.037 a supporter of which crossed which can 29:38.580 --> 29:43.690 yes advertisement briefing is water under sentimental the better 29:44.880 --> 29:48.450 are you saying that the ability of the libyan militias that are 29:48.450 --> 29:51.910 there now in the government of national court has expanded now 29:52.224 --> 29:55.830 that they've been able to do enough to limit the growth of islamic 29:55.830 --> 30:00.730 state compared to how it had doubled previously won it in in 30:00.730 --> 30:04.390 different places you're hearing different situations they have 30:04.390 --> 30:07.006 had a chance knowledge in an around the. Srd 30:09.410 --> 30:14.190 but in the east in bengazi in darna they have fought back against 30:14.190 --> 30:18.180 the islamic state and made it much more much tougher for them 30:18.180 --> 30:22.480 to operate as well as cena and some broth or they've had activities 30:22.480 --> 30:25.907 that have a limited the growth and the challenges throughout 30:25.907 --> 30:32.641 her arm and so you know it's only human and it's it's not the 30:33.400 --> 30:38.990 it's not you know consistent across the board of booker as their 30:39.040 --> 30:41.960 squeezed and pushed other place and everything will have to see 30:41.960 --> 30:45.140 how that you know the situation develops but thought they are 30:45.140 --> 30:49.950 contesting of the growth of isis and several areas across the 30:50.120 --> 30:55.340 libyan not all look at one other question to what extent do you 30:55.340 --> 30:59.413 see it is located in the bia as a threat specifically to europe 30:59.597 --> 31:02.520 if their attempts are always to attack brought in western targets 31:02.890 --> 31:06.403 how much more was the route from there to the us european allies 31:06.403 --> 31:11.170 as opposed to us so quickly active biggest and no worse threat 31:11.170 --> 31:17.419 they how they are all you know providing to the other neighbors 31:17.430 --> 31:21.600 is really to tunisia first some crime that's the that's the biggest 31:21.600 --> 31:25.289 one and then been followed up by the european thing but their 31:25.453 --> 31:28.837 european threats but they have not talked to this point today 31:28.880 --> 31:33.490 able to log on to project that power toward the europe at this 31:33.490 --> 31:35.654 point again that's an aspiration of the sport 31:37.455 --> 31:41.915 the job of it without her as you may noble started their own 31:42.150 --> 31:47.039 many regional players in libya right now but let's go to egypt 31:47.530 --> 31:51.788 how would you describe their field now face the situation and 31:51.788 --> 31:56.250 the elephant is any kind of military expenditure shared with 31:56.663 --> 32:01.591 oprah are counted the situation said the outcome the 32:02.990 --> 32:08.129 international and us diplomatic efforts are all of focused on 32:08.740 --> 32:14.001 trying to low limit thea to external influences that will shift 32:14.001 --> 32:18.690 to the balance of power inside libya sold that girl you know 32:18.690 --> 32:23.196 the show the governments that you know the house of representatives 32:23.196 --> 32:27.835 each is thea general national congress in the west analogy in 32:27.887 --> 32:32.940 a house you know all we want to do the best we can a center and 32:32.940 --> 32:37.019 asked me to support their libyan so that they can have self determination 32:37.035 --> 32:40.693 where their movement instead of from external influences so that 32:40.693 --> 32:43.570 city are used to flow matic effort that everybody's trying to 32:43.570 --> 32:45.655 mitigate that to a negative act 32:47.487 --> 32:50.814 this myth can I ask you about al qaeda in the maghreb and of 32:50.814 --> 32:53.771 the french take the lead on his beliefs in such a big jump in 32:53.800 --> 32:57.935 attacks on soft targets in the last few months for molly to regina 32:58.356 --> 33:02.520 reaches parts of yell as ivory coast not how worried are you 33:02.560 --> 33:03.690 about this one 33:04.896 --> 33:07.387 and putting aside with the french are doing work in the us to 33:07.406 --> 33:11.349 to work with these african partners on a highly combative attack 33:11.349 --> 33:19.540 attack and attack him walt of first or it's a huge or the international 33:19.540 --> 33:24.207 effort an intelligence community effort to try to help that as 33:24.207 --> 33:29.740 sub festival kent of first saw the now frenches roles of the 33:29.740 --> 33:32.730 un mission there would be no share intelligence would help the 33:32.730 --> 33:38.520 french with all aerial refueling of with the intelligence surveillance 33:38.520 --> 33:44.047 reconnaissance alone and no man no strategic lift to container 33:44.059 --> 33:50.530 movement supporter of fritz across all mali niger and chad and 33:50.530 --> 33:55.596 then we work with all all the job partner military services that 33:55.667 --> 33:59.963 pass the summer run ridge to partners who work of some of the 33:59.963 --> 34:04.480 um uh some of their intel organisations and in each of the different 34:04.480 --> 34:08.310 countries different forces elements have the permission to do 34:08.742 --> 34:13.060 om to to to defend or protect their capitals in this case some 34:13.060 --> 34:16.869 of the military someone police summum are intelligence so we're 34:17.160 --> 34:20.330 we're working across of interagency swells were international 34:20.330 --> 34:23.659 partners to first in the form of share intelligence although 34:23.850 --> 34:27.489 struts and then a second piece its importance the capacity building 34:27.490 --> 34:31.240 weaver worked out with several of nations honor military forces 34:31.240 --> 34:35.710 as well as all of our partners in the new in the interaction 34:35.710 --> 34:39.120 between interagency working with their intel and police forces 34:39.120 --> 34:43.778 to improve the idea of the threat to note that happened in iraq 34:43.778 --> 34:46.936 continues to grow as he said not only the three attacks but the 34:47.281 --> 34:51.840 also the threats on too many another of the regions of force 34:51.870 --> 34:56.920 so I think that the everybody is working together to the mitigate 34:56.920 --> 35:01.110 the risk the best they can and I think that though it will continue 35:01.110 --> 35:04.958 to be a threat because of all the challenges in mali and what 35:05.189 --> 35:09.280 al qaeda was accomplished here I think to the evolving tactics 35:09.280 --> 35:13.633 it's it's when you went back to back couple years to the somalia 35:13.633 --> 35:16.420 who did the same thing in when they got under pressure and everything 35:16.420 --> 35:20.551 they struck out to reset and them all those things I think that 35:20.565 --> 35:24.820 all the nations understand that and are working hard to us to 35:24.820 --> 35:27.860 not only keep the pressure on them in the combat zone but also 35:27.926 --> 35:29.820 protect or they're soft. Targets 35:32.924 --> 35:36.100 locate a whale's ok will thank you very much.