Just this program.
Yeah. Missions um I like to think you while for being here and
for taking an interest in our nine-eleven family store on the
island um you had a really nice meetings than the other day and
I know that they appreciated speaking with you.
Um I would like to especially think the family members there
always have.
Very very special it's.
A amazing that they take a week out of their lives come down
here and spend time with us to fuel all of this and probably
pretty frustrating this week but they can go in as always with
dignity and grace and um we're very preachy to for um.
For their participation and I am grateful for and just getting
to know them.
I'm nina started here on my left to introduce you all to them
and then I'll ask them if they wish to come forward um to give
statements to you and then you can I guess the you um.
You can direct questions to each one of them but I give all of
them the chance to practice because I think that all I'm have
something to say team.
Um my where.
The I hate it.
And a loss and so the is Simon aria Jacobs and claudia's brother
in the world trade center.
Uh I'm charlie climbing his son kevin last season Klein in the
world trade center charlie's wife and kevin's mom.
I'm here I have.
I just next or gloria last her sister vicky leniency on flight
77 that crashed into the Pentagon.
And I have on the rain inter domain and down sorry it's and they
last a brother adam in the world trade center.
I love them again liam shine again lee last time a brother and
a sign mark ryan mckinley in the world trade son.
So now I'm going to ask that the famous it's it might not to
speak with you.
A Hi is can fit my name is clyde aid take a fan of the outside
of boston. Massachusetts.
I was on my work.
Um my way to work on september 11 when I heard the news I had
no idea my brother was in the building.
My brother Barry was that a meeting.
And Windows on the world's.
Not a good place to be on the day. We um rest to me or to look
for them.
We believe we can find jim because they're Abe was very wily
and we know if anybody can get apt to that.
It was the most.
Wonderful sunday warm.
Person he was the greatest uncle to my children and he took them
this game. He left with at sea was there for everything when
other family members all around the was dead up and made the
funniest beats of my fiftieth birthday party.
It was that.
My dad is up next but he was just always there for you and him
not being here.
Is a tremendous toll until all of.
That's in my family.
I am here today.
To bear witness for game because it's very hard to know what
else to do with this way.
I like I think the other families are frustrated that.
More it is an happening I'm in the week that we came down here
because we did come to bear witness and I think I'm I feel said
there's not a speedy resolution.
Um and like.
All of us. I I wish for justice in the situation and I think
it's not only the family members everybody in the country.
But you just have to realize that we have that spends self interest
um and that it it doze in some ways prolonged air pain. So thank
you for being the or an interested in what we might have to say
and communicate unknown we all appreciate.
The interesting and keeping this important is still alive. Thanks.
Walls falling warm.
Do you speak your sees a Wall units because said what I had to.
Just four pitches opting for they to world. Which are the list
with with down here.
Um we for the you'll kinda speaking letters and numbers that.
What what was to really understand.
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For that reason that.
And. Uh.
No one glorious mixer.
And I were first want to thank Karen and her team for the most incredible.
Posts and escorts and really take us through this very difficult
week they've been extremely supportive of us and I'm just gonna
great comfort to know that her and her team have been their first
throughout the squeak.
I also wanted to thank be prosecution team because they also
to have been very supportive of meeting with us explaining to
us what he's been going on now I'm I'm not the most.
Legal person to understand.
Technically and they can.
Airy helpful and i've been very prissy to vent that is quelled.
Earlier this week I had a chance to meet with you in the spring
that and One of the first things I asked to was please just you
print the truth they.
And the appropriate when I'm be honest about it and from a little
like seen so far a we did see one article and I felt like thank you.
I wanna thank you for.
Honoring than that the you were respect full aid was to fall
it did is skew or.
What we said and the so.
Thank you for doing that.
Um this week has been difficult because it's clearly brings back
a lot of a motion and one of the hardest thanks for me to deal
with this week.
Why is the current state.
To lay be thought that this may never come to a conclusion at
least from my. Perspective.
It it was the happening says squeak with the FBI. I E.
Found that difficult to believe that that happens by accident um.
We're inclined to think it happens by design ring.
I E family the defends.
There are procedures to delay delay to one eight.
The very discouraging to need probably to all family member sit
and I think that's discouraging to the American people.
Some of the things that weakness today. We're all so it dropped
this week. We're also very discouraging.
The wearing a bird goes is in accord room. I found that extremely
offensive if not only from.
Offensive this American.
Offensive this a woman I think that that's offensive to women
who you do all over this world living in suppression.
And also as a statement of submission to terrorism and to.
I'm offended by that.
I was also the
Candidate it.
The scene I understand the defense has a drops a tape don't get
me wrong.
Their concern with there are.
Terrorist right eats.
That they're worried about their right eat steer letter that
he wants back. Well there's things I want to.
I would like my sister back that's not ever going to happen.
But mostly what I'm here for today is but I really want is justice
and I'm hoping that that will ultimately happen some day. Thank. You.
One of the brain areas bell of so I was my brother adam peter
areas and nina let than. I was living in staten island at the
time and I actually had the plane.
It was driving in the shadow of the plane going over my head
when I heard on the radio that that the plaintiff to 10 hours um.
My brother nide we here in 2009 to the competency hearing with
that here.
This week for the scene.
So I think you could feel the level of frustration and the level
of frustration of the fan blades that it's seen says if nothing
was being done which is on true. I've learned so much goes on
behind the scenes and I would like to think everyone including
depressed for the work that they do.
Out and especially cameron.
For helping us and being sensitive to us and taking everyone
to this process and we have.
The group your that he's really supported one and another but
it's very very hard to and I do and to stand to re different
lease innings for this pink seems to be moving very very slow.
A had Cowan to wear 80 years old will they ever see resolution
the dared debts of their son. It's that i've is the oldest of
six children.
Out that 15 years old at the my brother have this like a second
mother to them and dad.
It's extremely painful and I would like to see the store faith
in my country and got them and also the prize this didn't happen
at a car accident and a natural sense. My brother was on top
of the world's with did a great job a promising future. And this
was eight that act of war and American so oil that never ever shouldn't.
Happen. So our government failed to us. So this march family times.
So many maybe 3000 people.
Our rule effective beguiling. My lift on step nine um and it
was just like to a a wildfire it's your way out of just painting
I could meet and You were going to awake again and she couldn't
just stand what it is to run to tween likes and one day.
Well Peaple to new people you worked with everyone was effected by.
And it's it's a man asked magnified by the gonna people.
And the area that was just a man asked pain and sorrow and yet
does no one deviation from the us.
If we could feel be removing some Halle.
Fall where DC towards a resolution.
Um but here we are standing in place.
Since 2000 and nine.
To 2014 five years standing in place and it's painful but I see
there is a fine team I see many people working hard doing their
jobs and I can only.
Trite that.
Some now we will get some relief in the Thank you.. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm not going to areas send. I wanna thank Karen and her
team for the the gracious hospitality. It's been an emotionally
draining week fat our family and for.
Orly of the family's here. I'd like to think that we've made
some really good friends with these other families and and one
of the family member had told me that she had never met and all
the family to wed law someone. So I think it's important work
pectoral off-piste does here to bring families down here for
for an in a while the reason then the see that the wheels of
justice turn about how slow even ant bait uh uh. I poured tea
a prosecution team for the crepe work they're doing and and their
tenacity to stick with this big over the years as my sister alluded
to we were here back in 2000 nine. Yeah in january 2009 for competency
kiwi for for Ramsey penelle shit uh. He we or 10 Fest for to
most five years we're back in the same place where we started
and has a variety of reasons for that. I'm sure that you're probably
more were and I am um.
Also won a ploy to defense team um. Uh. Yeah I'm.
I heard a lot of talk about building. Climate trust.
And broke for.
And hal nissan glittery officers assigned to this case.
That's what it's a mission that they've got to to do and and
I applaud them for the infuse the has um in which they in a race
building that report.
With the a self confessed master minds of nina let them and the
murder is.
Of almost 3000 people including my brother rat.
You know I traveled to get the win january 2009 looking for justice
and we still haven't found it.
Um. You know.
This is the sole legal game.
You know the years 3000 dead people out there including my brother
and is not a political exercise see that this is to search for
truth and justice and we need to get on with in reciting he or
or the self confessed architects of nine eleven.
The military commissions was created to try war criminals and
and I don't think this process needs all that much fixing.
Uh just like Nazi war criminals of world war two these people
are war criminals just like workrooms at number which was convened
in ended in under year.
These are enemy can bacon's there are a violation of the laws
of war and a need to be treated as such.
You know the idea. That's tribunals earns somehow in the reader
to federal court is a great lie.
Um I would just use a to the public.
And the price that of millimetre tribunals are quote enough in
navy seals.
Why don't they good enough a. Ksf.
The just one was thing in this is difficult for me the same.
But when a government.
Can X to can execute.
An American citizen in a drone attack none referencing a walkie.
Yeah upsets.
It with a light said clean shake well-founded was not a citizen.
I think it on discourse.
The chaos confusion.
And hypocrisy.
That surrounds the whole. Defects.
We met with the defense last night.
And they know how I feel about.
Thank. You.
Just met these people this week that.
And i've learned already it's hard to follow the impact will
do the best I can say that the Of One amos bill mckinley and
I'm really here on behalf of arson mark mckinley.
Who died in the north tower 90 second floor. It was a couple more.
Um. And who was a true new Yorker in the in the few short years
four years of the lived there.
Um the was 26 years old.
Oh really enjoyed the city a live a life there.
And I'm here with my son shown just because we wanna stand up
for him and I there and number of a jump grateful for this week
a first of all the churh here covering issues for a good of Karen
and her team a i've been working with since it started.
Of many many years ago as part of the commission's back in the
in mclean Virginia.
And up may have been marbles making all this work. This is my
first time down here. I know many of you work here have been
here multiple times. So it's routine to but as for unique to make.
I'm also great for a because I live in Virginia and we lost mark
in new york. So we've been an arm's length about a lot of the
activities going on in new york because of that distance will
go we have born every year to read name should be pression too
to bear witness on my own life and every year since the this happen.
What it's been hard wanting to meet so many these people who
lost lives brothers.
A The hatch sisters. She uh and and is just really heart-warming
and helpful to see that we're not alone with all its a just never
going to change my concern is not with any of these detainees
on trying to focus on morsel.
I'm a health care lobbyists firework. One issues that go for
eight nine 10 15 years.
Um so I understand that the confines of things that don't warm
and how you make a case not legal but but how are you make your point.
How you get things across.
I am disappointed that there are so many to life isn't all the spot.
I am yet even and courage with what little movement. There was
this week that we cisco fall.
So we're grateful for that and we started in a while hamed somewhat frustrated.
I can tell you that that like all of these dynamics I miss mark
mckinley every single day every day.
And I'm gonna continue to fight dish horrific terrorist.
Most evil terrorism as long as I live in any way that I can uh.
So thank you and I pull your.. Pretty.
Pretty. A lot.
Um. I'd go to some of the of the day about the things people
don't tell.
Us about.
The span about and with the station and what he can.
I think that was some type of this film and it will take to the
and you dad.
In times of we fees very difficult to feel what we have the me
I have to that great said soaks up for.
From you can use of course from kinda invent that people have
been combo you double.
Backed olsen from all bingo companies that I'd be the new york.
Than had been so unless and I wanna come will cook them town.
I use that it we by people stay at the so ploy to and take care
of peel.
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You think the conflict in to know that the arise so many people
will piano and I won't do the thank you for your part can.
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She's a she cover for this be a of the first person she's she's
your very well.
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To write for the new york to use the also comes to her off.
He also.
Splits and nervous all.
Um solos first portion is from homes bowery.
Um. Someone who are using the obama administration particularly
attorney general eric holder intensely Simon talking about love
and while by conducting this alleged to be a investigation.
What specifically there's two things.
One. I would like.
That let's say I would say for myself.
I'm very suspicious.
Up I look at an attorney general and we there's been held in
contempt of congress.
I look at the investigations that we see going on from I'm.
Fast and furious with a comes in mexico there's no resolution
to that than posse and investigation the does that is ongoing
but there's nothing that seems to be happening up the art ras
which affects me directly on all the not for profit work that
I do in group sitter bitter trying to do charitable work.
And uh you know we have.
Uh. Go to use a time and you know it it it. It's just.
It's liar steven pimps. It seems to me that are working through
um this sort of thing and I have I have lost old respect and
and I am very suspicious about what's going on now in a normal
situation my mind when you go back that far I won't be thinking
that much old these other elements were present.
So I'm a churn out there. Right that can't that that the accusing them.
But I am very suspicious and I think that's why should have said
we have to press conference. Before.
And I don't think that I have any specific facts or anything
other than and For me it's a matter of logic from most people
here you have the FBI.
Care you have pre trial hearing. This forward the most high profile
case probably in history.
And nobody has the common sense to think that the things that
happened might impact the los proceedings.
It Defies logic to think that one would do this.
At this time we just before we were it to come down here.
And and have peace perceiving aches.
And that can be delete the person who was selling as a non-disclosure
decides to repeal that.
It's Defies logic.
Elite from that perspective I can't believe people and such.
Organizations did not know better. Didn't.
Oh. And for you.
So you're saying I mean you're pretty as as a Hindus traps actually. No.
Things. For you the
But I'm just not totally convinced after what I see here today
i've seen.
From you not just the events with the FBI but the defense says
constitute de la to like to like um. I I do well so wanna and
that I I E.
I felt like nissan from the other rooted defense is common several
your to the heat and we have private meeting with him yesterday
II and I found the what they told you today is nothing like what
we got from the last night. I counted them to be.
Erin can cocky.
Can descending.
And I didn't hear any of that sympathy for our loss.
In baby through legal terminal one she about constitution and
You know that's not what we were so your for it.
They eat.
That clearly admitted they like what they do.
They're proud of what they do now and two.
And they they were not it all the sympathetic people.
That talk to use this morning.
That's not what we got in private from the one snowy and so I
see that they have.
No concern.
To address justice.
For for a us the family spin of victims of for the American people.
I just seem to light delight II and skit wiki cannot at this
cakes into a one set something up to you know we we incurred
about these that the spoon.
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our duty to do it and you know and I have I have to respect that
the today in court of which eyesore young army officer have to
make that much forty's because of india korea required it to
go to some professional military education come here to make
a choice between.
Defending collegiate mohammad for his army career.
He chose to defend the lead shakeup prompted.
These are career making cases for attorneys.
And then and it's not with that at the end of a fair degree of
cynicism that I say this I mean he's open who makes that kind
of choice.
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and searching claim who work for me. I would just the most amazing
young ladies and and so playful the have than they've made this trip.
Um you know.
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not they whose him world-renowned to tether for both than with
the families this week trying to document their experience a
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