Feel it a bit there . Uh , listen , we
read this paragraph in here about these
quotes coronal discharges that you guys
were seeing and , and that , that
completely stops us . Tell , tell us
what , how this came about and who ,
who talked to you about it and what and
what you saw . We reported it on uh
somebody reported it on one of the
earlier flights and uh . Some guy up ,
I got the letter , the paperwork
somewhere , and they shipped it down to
me at the Cape about two things where
the VHF radio noises , which could be
discharges from someplace in space ,
and the other one where , my father was
on flight , he's got airport seeing
flashes in a spacecraft at night with
their eyes closed or with their eyes
closed . They , they , they noticed
them when they were awake at night and
the spacecraft was dark , and they
thought they were in a spacecraft .
Yeah . But , uh , whoever this guy was
said no , that's a perfectly known
phenomenon you can get discharged
across your eye from gamma rays or
something . So he had a bunch of things ,
would we . Close our eyes and face the
moon , you know , when we were orbiting
it because it would be more , you'd get
less discharges facing the moon than
away from it . You don't have to be
anywhere near the moon or anywhere .
The first night out , bing , bing . And
if you , if you keep your eyes closed
and you're awake down there and it's
dark and you think about it , when it
happens , you can put your eye , you
can , you can sit down and it's one eye .
It , it's not a discharge that you see
in both eyes . You really see it with
one eye or the other eye , and you can
see what kind it is . We had two kinds .
Gets the particle either strike the
eyeball perpendicular or or it
discharges parallel and we'd get either
a a flash like that or we'd get a
streak . And uh and I'm the only people
that I know is I got . I And I for
some reason got it more with my left
eye than my right eye , but I could
tell which eye it was when I was
concentrating on it . I'm trying to
tell you the reason he did it because
his , where he slept was always on the
left side of the spacecraft . That I
got switched on the crosser and I
caught all the right ones . Yeah .
They should have protected you , They
should have all , they should have
picked them all up . Surprising I'm
surprised you didn't hear about this
because you were asked to specifically
experiment with this thing . 2 pages in
the place in the water and we didn't
bother because we were . Oh , there's a
paper right now on the very exact thing ,
a new phenomenon that came out of a
letter . Buzz and Neil talked about
this . I , I remember their
conversation about it . They thought it
was something , you know , penetrating
the spacecraft . What Pete described is
the exact phenomenon that all three of
us saw . You'd see a light , you know ,
just a flash out there or sometimes
it'd be a a streak . And I saw them in
both eyes , either eye , and , uh , I
can't remember if there was one that
was more predominant than the other ,
but I agree with Pete . It's a
phenomenon that you're not seeing with
both eyes . It's not something external
to you . It's something that's inside
or coming across you . Apparently they
know about it . Apparently it's a known
known phenomenon . Well , we've been
looking for cosmic rays , you know ,
cosmic ray strikes and heavy , heavy
particles , heavy nuclei that are that
go through . You know , we started at
clear back in Mercury taking
photographs of the retina to see if you
could see the streaks across the retina
and stuff . We never could find any in
there . And so we stopped that up early
in the , well by the end of the . Right .
Your eye is what , the fastest healer
on your body , and if it's doing
anything , you're never going to see it .
By the time you get a guy back , all
they're ever going to see it is if you
photographed it right after a particle
went by . Well , probably what , what
it's doing anyway is probably hitting
just a single cell and , uh , yeah ,
that's all I'd have to do ,
particularly to make this flash , you
know , you hit a single cell . I saw
one night because I was looking at the
MVP a handrail up above and one right
right along . I don't know where it
went . It appeared , you know , right
straight along that handrail for about
that , that distance . And I just got
to be looking at that , and now you can
almost see him at will . That's right
where you just lie there and you close
your eyes . What if they don't wanna
see one you open one eye and judges
already see it . You didn't believe it
at first that we thought it was right .
You know , hey , I've been sitting
pretty well . On the , uh
You see that . They said in the middle
of the mission , you'd wake up at night
and you'd say , well , I think I ought
to see , Those ladies come about one
minute .
Uh , let , let me ask you one more
question about heart . Uh , oh , here ,
were , were these random , uh ,
distribution of these , uh , or , or
did they seem to be fairly horizontal ?
OK , uh , were these , were these
things random or did they all seem to
be in one direction ? Like were they
always horizontal or were they at
random ? They could be at any kind of
angle . But the streaks I saw one I saw .
I was gonna say that's interesting .
Mine , it seemed to me I had the
impression that they were always
roughly in the same place and mine were
horizontal . The horizontal streaks
were always , if I knew where I was
looking , it always seemed like the
horizontal streak was a little bit
above the center and it always seemed
to me it went from right to left . No
matter which eye it was The , uh , the ,
uh , discharges were more towards the
center and , and it would be just a ,
it was just like a pinpoint of light .
They closed it yet . Like somebody was
flashing a light at you . That's right .
Generally not too big a light , you
know . Yeah . It wouldn't fill your
very small lot . Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .
It's a , it's an important .
Is that about the same for both of you ?
Is that the same , uh , reaction you
had and Al , the way he described it ?
What's that about 30 degrees of
horizontal , but they were kind of ,
see , I didn't notice them from the
right or left . That's pretty
interesting . Yeah , but about the same ,
they seem to appear about the same
place . Yeah , I know .
I . The horizontal ones that I saw were
generally above eye level was generally
high . Now , I , I don't know . I can't
include any other . I can't remember .
I just don't remember any of them being
down in the lower part of the vision .
Well , I , I remember you seeing that
telling you about seeing them . With
his eyes open and , and other
things that he centered his eye on the
lights on the instrument panel . What I
used to notice on the boat was when I
was down there in that sleeping bag ,
it was pitch black down there in the
hole . It wouldn't make any difference
whether my eyes were open or closed . I
could lay there for , I used to kill
time that way , say for a half an hour .
Either open them or close them and wait ,
and sure enough , after a while , you'd
get one . And then I'd sit there for a
while and say , OK , was it in the left
eye or the right eye ? It'd take you a
while to sort it out , and , uh , but
you can usually figure out which eye it
was in . Now you know what you're doing
when you're supposed to be sleeping .
Yeah . Yeah . And there was
a comment that .